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23 November 2015, 02:38 PM | #61 | |
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This is perfect! And thank you for the pictures. I thought that was what was being said was the problem, but now it is completely clear. I do have the text records which I plan on bringing along with high resolution pictures so I can show the difference between an authentic 01 and the fake. Outstanding idea with Breitling by the way. They should at the very least be able to do that wouldn't you think? With that being said, if they could confirm the pictures are not of a watch that they have made, everything else would be completely irrelevant wouldn't it? I don't think the seller is broke, it wasn't too long ago he sent me pictures of his new AP that he recently purchased to show how legit he is. As well as how much he goes through to get his watches verified before he purchases them. I couldn't imagine if he was going to pay 13k plus that he would be in bad shape. Oh and he owns a wholesale clothing business here in LA as well which is local to me by the way. The thing I am not sure about is, am I able to go after more than just the price of the watch if I am to procure more losses due to having to pay for authentication or anything else that I may need to do? Of course this would be in small claims court, so it will be somewhat different from regular court I can imagine. Thank you very much for the help! This will be perfect. |
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24 November 2015, 12:18 AM | #62 | |
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You need some sort of "expert" 3rd party to verify that what I've told you about the subdials is true. I know what I've told you is true, but I'm just a guy on the internet, for all a judge knows I could be a 40 year old guy living in his mom's basement wearing a slayer T shirt and posting on internet forums all day long . I would call breitling, speak to the manager you spoke to last that's familiar with your situation, and simply ask him to take the pictures that were sent to you by your seller, and send you, via email, a response from him, a breitling watchmaker, or anyone over at breitling, a confirmation that the 43mm breitling navitimer 01 subdials are spaced differently than the one in your image, and that breitling has never made a 43mm navitimer 01 with subdials spaced as the subdials in your seller's pics are. Given your situation, the fact that one of their AD's serviced a fake, I do not see any reason they would be unwilling to do this. Best of luck, keep us posted on how it turns out!! |
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24 November 2015, 04:56 AM | #63 |
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I've had some luck with small claims court in LA County. PM me and we can discuss if you want.
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24 November 2015, 02:04 PM | #64 | |
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I didn't get a chance to call Breitling today because I was so busy at work. Hopefully I won't need to and everything will work out. We will all know very shortly. Then I can buy an AUTHENTIC Rolex! I'm very excited about that. |
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24 November 2015, 04:05 PM | #65 | |
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Excellent pls keep us posted!
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24 November 2015, 11:02 PM | #66 |
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25 November 2015, 12:38 AM | #67 |
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I hope that's true, but just be aware that it's a common scammer tactic to say things like that to buy time. Hope for the best but you should expect to be stood up.
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25 November 2015, 12:55 AM | #68 |
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www.horologicalservices.com
I'm not sure if you've tried these folks or not, but they are great. Mark is a Breitling genius! They should be able to provide you with expert documentation on the authenticity of the watch. Downside is you will need to ship it to PA and pay for the service, but if push comes to shove you may need it. |
25 November 2015, 04:09 PM | #69 |
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All the best, hope he returns the money and you can start shopping for a real one this time:)
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26 November 2015, 03:45 AM | #70 |
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hope you get your money back tonight!
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26 November 2015, 10:13 AM | #72 |
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26 November 2015, 10:48 AM | #73 |
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Got it!!!! 100% cash of what I originally paid. I must say, I didn't think I was going to see it back that easily to be honest.
I would like to thank all of you for the help and support on this matter. You have all been very kind and the advice you have provided has been world class. Because of the folks on this forum, I will now know of what precautions to take to ensure that this never happens again. And that is priceless. Thank you again TRF. |
26 November 2015, 10:53 AM | #74 |
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Great to hear that you got your cash back. You have been very lucky in that regard. Most people don't see anything back after a deal like that. We'll done.
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26 November 2015, 11:47 AM | #75 |
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Congrats mate...pictures when u get the new watch!:)
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26 November 2015, 02:22 PM | #76 |
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A happy ending! Very lucky this all worked out. Congrats.
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26 November 2015, 03:24 PM | #77 |
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Thanks guys. A very surprising happy ending at that. I honestly believe the seller meant well throughout the process, I think he got screwed terribly. It wasn't hard to tell that today. I hope he is able to get his money back from wherever the watch originally came from.
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Very great ending ,btw check the notes you got if those are all legit.👍🏻
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27 November 2015, 08:26 AM | #79 |
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Maybe I was a little harsh with my first post, anyone can get scammed.
Really glad you got your money back. |
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A good outcome Bocky.
So, what have you decided on for your replacement watch?
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27 November 2015, 04:31 PM | #82 | |
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It certainly is. I have been looking at several Rolexes. I have always like the platinum dial and bezel yachtmaster. There is one that perpetualman88 has for sale on here that looks amazing, plus he is local. I have also started quite liking the gmt ii batman bezel. I know they are two completely different watches but they both speak to me. What do you think? |
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27 November 2015, 05:10 PM | #83 |
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Wow. What a story.
Good for OP that he can receive the money back. It is easy to tell that it is a fake watch given the subdial spacing is off. Also the datewheel looks sunken. Next time, try to compare the watch to the pics online at least. Congrats OP. Hope you buy a great watch with that money Sent from my SM-N9100 using Tapatalk |
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They are both excellent choices.
I chose the ceramic Submariner (114060) over the BLNR last time round and am not convinced that it was the best decision. The platinum yachtmaster is the first Rolex I wanted to buy but for one reason I have never bought one. It was the favourite watch of of a good friend. Between those two the BLNR wins.
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Great outcome!
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28 November 2015, 02:21 AM | #86 |
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The guy who sold the fake knows the watch maker is my gut feel. I would go after the seller to start and let the AD know you are about to write a review about your watchmaker/certification experience there. This review will force hands.
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So no more Breitlngs?
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Yeah I don't think so. At least not at this current time. The way Breitling handled the situation by not even bothering to respond to me left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I hardly want to buy a watch from them as a thank you. It's a shame really because they do have so beautiful pieces. |
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Why should they handle anything? You never owned a Breitling. I think it's very understandable if they, as a rule, don't respond to inquiries involving counterfeit drama. There are plenty of other great brands out there though!
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28 November 2015, 12:07 PM | #90 | |
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Oh I don't know, maybe because one of their authorized dealer's certified watchmaker completely serviced it and didn't realize it was fake. If it had been the same situation but with a car let's say, I would certainly expect them to at the very least respond to my email. Wouldn't you? |
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