Better than a Rolex?

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by Abre

It's actually running at +1 sec per day for the last 4 weeks or so.

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This runs tighter than the majority of the Rolex I’ve owned. The beat error is less and the amplitude is as good as any i have owned. Is it better? No. It’s a tuned up ETA.


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[Enyaw1]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

This runs tighter than the majority of the Rolex I’ve owned. The beat error is less and the amplitude is as good as any i have owned. Is it better? No. It’s a tuned up ETA.


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Are you sure you’re on the right thread? This one is discussing the Tudor Pelagos.

[CaptT]

Great watch, so much to like about it as you and others have noted. Congrats and enjoy.

[Enyaw1]

Originally Posted by RyanJ

Come Rolex fans. Defend your master!

That is what any thread where people give credit to Tudor becomes. Heh.

The problem is Rolex owners have had to go grey and pay through the nose rather than retail, that is why they are trying to convince themselves of the exclusivity of the brand and fear Tudor functionality and value.
I’m sure this has been said before:

Rolex for the pose, Tudor for the pro’s.

[Abre]

Originally Posted by Enyaw1

The problem is Rolex owners have had to go grey and pay through the nose rather than retail, that is why they are trying to convince themselves of the exclusivity of the brand and fear Tudor functionality and value.
I’m sure this has been said before:

Rolex for the pose, Tudor for the pro’s.

I have a 116610lv and a 116622 and a 116500 in my current collections All purchased for msrp, and I bought and sold 2 tudors before a gmt black bay and a steel bezel black bay, they were nice models but i sold them due to 15mm thickness and with that thickness they also had polished sides which made the watches look and feel huge on the wrist.
But when I tried this particular model about a month ago in a local watch shop in my area it immediately felt different than the black bay’s that I sold, first and most importantly the thickness at 13.5mm it felt like a glove, and the lightness and over all quality of the piece it self and how it sat on the wrist due to the flat case back exactly like a sub or a datejust 41 unlike the new in-house version with the much taller case back, and also the clasp had all the adjustments that you could need in a any watch.
I went and checked the new in-house movement and they are pretty nice, but the tall case back made it very uncomfortable a night and day difference for me, and also the 5 lines of text is a bit too much.
So what is i am trying to say is that from all of the sea of Tudor watches and the many variants from the black bay and other lines, some tudors are a bit different from others and this first gen pelagos looks like something that was researched and developed by Rolex and was giving the Tudor treatment due to two reasons in my opinion, one Rolex is too conservative to release a titanium watch and they had to re release the Tudor brand with a top notch watch back in 2012 and from both lines that they released I believe that the pelagos was that top notch piece.
Sorry for taking too long.


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[waterman1]

Originally Posted by Abre

Sorry to hear about your experience, I actually had the same problem for the first week until I learned that the bezel has a safety feature that doesn’t allow it to move as easily when submerged under water, and in order to over come that safety feature you just have to apply a little bit of pressure on the bezel while turning it and you will find that it turns smooth and easy like you’d expect from such a piece.


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Well, this seems odd to me considering I have spent much time working to clean the bezel after being in the ocean and have pushed down as well as try to move it with no luck. Also many have written about the issue. On my last Pelagos, the bezel was stuck after being in ocean, I couldn’t move it, took in the shower with me and the whole bezel and it’s parts fell apart while in shower. It was repaired at no cost by RSC but I will just say I would hope for better on this otherwise outstanding dive watch.
However I am not doubting you so others who have the watch should try this method to clear the bezel and if it works awesome. Solution. Now you have a truly great diver and I’ll be getting it for the 4th time one day probably.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by travisb

Alotta bang for the buck and a great piece overall.
I prefer Rolex divers (Sub, SD. DSSD) but the Pelagos can hold it's own. Enjoy it!

Same here

Enjoy it OP, it is a great watch

[Enyaw1]

Originally Posted by Yzord

First of all, if you like the watch, enjoy it in good health. It deserves a happy owner.

Ok, now you asked for my opinion. First, i think a Tudor is way to bulky. Like the hour hand. A Rolex has a point arrow on each hand. On the hour hand of a Tudor it is flatten which makes it (for me) a too bulky hand.

Second, the bezel of this Tudor is also too big for the case. But, i really like the full lume on this bezel. Also the clasp looks bulky imo.

But third, and i really can't help this...the Tudor logo. For me it is a constant smiling clown. Really don't understand the designer why he made this up.

Please, this is all my personal opinion. If you are happy with it, please enjoy it. But you asked for my opinion, so here it is :)

The logo is an English thing based on history and tradition. Landsdorf was inspired by The Tudor name was chosen to honor the Tudor period in England and Wales. The original logo for the brand was a Tudor rose, but has since been changed to the now
Landsorf used the rose as the logo in addition to the shield. One day your country will also have a history and tradition which will inspire others but at the moment you will have to look up to Ronald Macdonald and the Big Mac.

[Lol-x]

Originally Posted by Enyaw1

The logo is an English thing based on history and tradition. Landsdorf was inspired by the English War of the Roses 1455 - 1485. This was fought between supporters of two rival cadet branches of the royal House of Plantagenet: the House of Lancaster, represented by a red rose, and the House of York, represented by a white rose.
Landsorf used the rose as the logo in addition to the shield. One day your country will also have a history and tradition which will inspire others but at the moment you will have to look up to Ronald Macdonald and the Big Mac.

Who is Landsdorf???

[Enyaw1]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Who is Landsdorf???

Sorry mate, I think you knew I meant Wilsdorf, apologies to Rolex

[Xenon]

Originally Posted by Enyaw1

The logo is an English thing based on history and tradition. Landsdorf was inspired by The Tudor name was chosen to honor the Tudor period in England and Wales. The original logo for the brand was a Tudor rose, but has since been changed to the now
Landsorf used the rose as the logo in addition to the shield. One day your country will also have a history and tradition which will inspire others but at the moment you will have to look up to Ronald Macdonald and the Big Mac.

Is that meant to be an insult to a particular country?

[nachopc]

Originally Posted by Abre

This pelagos wears more comfortable than the Daytona, and it's also thinner than most Rolex diver watches.

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It’s a bit chunky for my wrist, but it’s a beautiful watch no doubt about it, also is 42mm...too big for me.


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[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by Enyaw1

The logo is an English thing based on history and tradition. Landsdorf was inspired by The Tudor name was chosen to honor the Tudor period in England and Wales. The original logo for the brand was a Tudor rose, but has since been changed to the now
Landsorf used the rose as the logo in addition to the shield. One day your country will also have a history and tradition which will inspire others but at the moment you will have to look up to Ronald Macdonald and the Big Mac.

To be fair, we have chick-fil-a and In and out burger. Thats pretty cool.

[Abre]

Originally Posted by nachopc

It’s a bit chunky for my wrist, but it’s a beautiful watch no doubt about it, also is 42mm...too big for me.


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I was thinking the same way like you due to past experiences with the brand but this Eta movement is on the thin side 13.5mm to be exact comparing to the sub at 12.8mm and sd4k at 15.5mm


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[Enyaw1]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

To be fair, we have chick-fil-a and In and out burger. Thats pretty cool.

I’m a Denny’s and Five Guys person myself.

[Enyaw1]

Originally Posted by Xenon

Is that meant to be an insult to a particular country?

The insult is not knowing Hans Wisdorfs inspiration for the Tudor Rose and shield logos.

[J!m]

I like the original two-line version as well. Great watch. Thinner and cleaner dial. The movement is not a downer; I wish they had used the newer 2982-A2, but I suspect that Omega shut the door on that idea. That's even thinner than the 2824, and just nicer overall. That movement in this watch would have been quite nice. Thickness could come down, in fact, I think there is dead space inside even with a 2824- the movement does not need such a tall case.

I also seem to recall you couldn't give away a Tudor sub around the turn of the century... 20 years later and a blue bezel insert is costing more than double what the watches sold for then.

This will be a cult classic for sure. Similar to the no-crown guard subs. Everyone wanted the newer ones, and the older ones were shunned. Now try to get one.

Hind sight is 20-20.

I may be completely wrong, but I think the original 2-line Pelagos will be a desirable model in the future (not that I'm looking for an "investment"). I hope I can secure a complete set before they get too crazy in price.

This is not to say the Rolex divers will not be desirable- they are "safe" best for sure. I think the 116600 is another desirable model in the future. I want one now, because I love the proportions of it, but prices are already climbing high... Both it, and the (2-line) Pelagos were short run models.

[Jrod44]

A Tag Heuer 200m Divers Sapphire Crystal - bought in 1992 for US2.5K, no idea on the value of it now.


How does it compare to my Rolex 5508 - It doesn't

Compare it to a Tudor - Leaves it in the dust

[Enyaw1]

Originally Posted by Jrod44

A Tag Heuer 200m Divers Sapphire Crystal - bought in 1992 for US2.5K, no idea on the value of it now.


How does it compare to my Rolex 5508 - It doesn't

Compare it to a Tudor - Leaves it in the dust

I’ll take a chance and offer you $5 for it.

[mmaggi]

Well... First let me say that the Pelagos is a great watch regardless of movement. The ETA 2824 is a fine movement. But it's not the current movement offered in the Pelagos and it's not the 3135 in the Submariner.

The current Pelagos MT5612 movement is COSC certified with a 70 hour power reserve and that's why I would put it in the same category as the Sub. And at half the price, it's more desirable. It's the ultimate diver watch that can be worn with a suit, wool or wet.

[Abre]

+1

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[Abre]

Originally Posted by J!m

I like the original two-line version as well. Great watch. Thinner and cleaner dial. The movement is not a downer; I wish they had used the newer 2982-A2, but I suspect that Omega shut the door on that idea. That's even thinner than the 2824, and just nicer overall. That movement in this watch would have been quite nice. Thickness could come down, in fact, I think there is dead space inside even with a 2824- the movement does not need such a tall case.

I also seem to recall you couldn't give away a Tudor sub around the turn of the century... 20 years later and a blue bezel insert is costing more than double what the watches sold for then.

This will be a cult classic for sure. Similar to the no-crown guard subs. Everyone wanted the newer ones, and the older ones were shunned. Now try to get one.

Hind sight is 20-20.

I may be completely wrong, but I think the original 2-line Pelagos will be a desirable model in the future (not that I'm looking for an "investment"). I hope I can secure a complete set before they get too crazy in price.

This is not to say the Rolex divers will not be desirable- they are "safe" best for sure. I think the 116600 is another desirable model in the future. I want one now, because I love the proportions of it, but prices are already climbing high... Both it, and the (2-line) Pelagos were short run models.

+1

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[Bizcut1]

Isn't a Tudor a Rolex?

[dchernikoff]

I love the idea of the Pelagos. Great idea to put lume on the bezel! Great price point. And looks great from straight-on. But for me it was just too thick for my skinny wrist. But that blue is stunning!

-Dan

[Frank McKay]

Laughable post and question.

[Greglaw]

Congrats looks awesome on you!

[snyde]

Depends on the Rolex IMO. My first Rolex was a 94’ Air King I bought from Becker Time. I ended up trading it in for a Black Bay some time later.


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[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by Abre

Hello fellow members,

I bought this watch about a month ago,
And let me tell you I never thought that I'd like a Tudor as much as a Rolex or maybe more .
So I bought a Tudor pelagos 25500TN pre owned.
After I bought it I came to the fact that mine was the 2 liner version eta movement which had a run from 2012 till 2014 and changed in 2015 to the in house movement. After I searched a bit more I learned that this was the first titanium watch from Rolex/Tudor and with the ETA movement it has a thickness of 13.5mm which is pretty amazing in my opinion for a 500m diver and much better than the 14.3mm in house version.
Btw this watch was sitting or maybe stashed away after it got discontinued for 5 years at the AD.
So I was pretty pumped when I discovered that i was covered by the 18 month extended warranty from Tudor since the watch was purchased by original owner in 1/2019 from my city's local AD.
I have a 2019 hulk and a 2017 yacht master 40 blue.
And let me tell you that if this Tudor had Rolex crown in it and some polishing like a SD43 it would be the watch of the century.
I truly believe that this is the best dive watch from the house of Rolex/Tudor in the last 15 years.
And btw the ETA movement in this watch is averaging about 1 second fast per day for the last month.
(Also there are about 346 sd43 on chrono24 vs 20 of these pelagos ETA 25500TN in comparison )
Please share your opinion about this piece and what do you think about it?
Thank you.



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Congrats!


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[330ci]

I don't know why something has to be more popular or expensive to be better. I think your statement has alot of merit to it. some people have a different definition of better though. With a TI case, it's lighter and stronger, it's cheaper, it will do everything a submariner will do so I would say it's better. will it retain it's value as well and be as easy to sell as a submariner? no, so others will say it's not as good for that reason.

lots of Daytona love on here, but when it comes to being a good chrono, I'd have to say the Speedmaster is way better than a Daytona, after all, why would NASA choose it over the Daytona to send to space in the 60s? much better history than Paul Newman wearing one, yet space watches are cheap in comparison to Daytonas of the same vintage.

watches have quickly become about the price tag and wrist presence and seem to have very little to do with the merits of the piece itself.


When you really dig down into it, the Japanese have been kicking the Swiss' ass for a long time, but people have a negative stigma towards asian goods, and they weren't allowed to get SCOC ratings since they weren't swiss. otherwise, I think you could fairly easily argue that a Seiko is better than a Rolex in many ways

[desmomini]

I have a 5 line Pelagos that is often my daily knockabout.

Definitely better lume than a Rolex.

Sub bezel is far superior - turn both and note the difference in feel.

The titanium is very nice, but sometimes you want heft in a watch.

This is why it's great to have many options!