Would you buy a non-Rolex watch from a Rolex AD that won’t sell you a Rolex?

[RichM]

If it was something I really wanted, yes. It could be the start of a so called “relationship.”

[SS Oyster]

Sure - a Snoopy 3 or 321 Speedmaster.


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[adawil2002]

No, I would not buy another brand watch in hopes of buying a Rolex at a later time.

[Jack T]

Always keep my options open

[GONZO2LR]

bundling, purchasing history.....to get a desired Rolex...no..never...

[Old Geezer]

Why not ? If a store is a Rolex AD as well as an AD for other brands and they have something I like, sure I would buy it.
FWIW, I'm sympathetic to the plight of ADs. They have many customers asking for watches they can't provide. While they are currently able to sell most Rolex they receive, I suppose they are also losing customers whom they can't sell a Rolex to in the current environment. Those customers may or may not come when they want a watch or jewelry.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

I would, if it was a watch that I'd buy from someone else anyway.

Strike while the iron is hot is what I say and if you can support local business at the same time, that's even better, even if you have to pay a bit more.

Walking around with a chip on ones shoulder is not a good way to build relationships.

Agree completely Grady. Not sure where this entitlement bitterness comes from.

[johnwigan]

Originally Posted by Snerks

Imagine thinking an AD not selling you a 35k watch for 13k means they are treating you with disrespect, or like a second class citizen. What on earth.

Americans generally seem to have a view that anything goes for profit. That it is natural or normal. That is why I said I don't know about America. Reading the posts on here America seems to be the worse place in the world to buy a Rolex... or get sick The ADs seem to be totally unprincipled and hardfaced. Maybe that is why Rolex Geneva is taking greater control in the USA - if true. Not sure how Rolex benefits if a customer wants to buy a £10,000 Rolex and is told by some sleazebag AD that firstly he has to buy £50,000 of stuff which he doesn't want and which benefits Rolex not one jot. In fact it actually damages the Rolex brand.

I would not have anything to do with these sleazebags. In the UK at least it is still possible to buy desirable Rolex watches without paying bribes, or buying stuff you don't want or humiliating yourself. Maybe having self-respect and treating other people with respect influences how you are treated by the world. I would not do business with sleazebags, if you do you will get the treatment you deserve.

[Snerks]

Originally Posted by johnwigan

Americans generally seem to have a view that anything goes for profit. That it is natural or normal. That is why I said I don't know about America. Reading the posts on here America seems to be the worse place in the world to buy a Rolex... or get sick The ADs seem to be totally unprincipled and hardfaced. Maybe that is why Rolex Geneva is taking greater control in the USA - if true. Not sure how Rolex benefits if a customer wants to buy a £10,000 Rolex and is told by some sleazebag AD that firstly he has to buy £50,000 of stuff which he doesn't want and which benefits Rolex not one jot. In fact it actually damages the Rolex brand.

I would not have anything to do with these sleazebags. In the UK at least it is still possible to buy desirable Rolex watches without paying bribes, or buying stuff you don't want or humiliating yourself. Maybe having self-respect and treating other people with respect influences how you are treated by the world. I would not do business with sleazebags, if you do you will get the treatment you deserve.

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[MrMercedes]

Not in 1000years!

[beshannon]

My Rolex AD does not sell non Rolex watches

[slus]

If I wanted to buy it, sure. I just saw a sign in the airport that my local AD carries Tudor now, which is much more exciting than being asked how much money in jewelry I have bought in the last 5 years when I ask about a Rolex.

[alphadweller]

I would if I was after a non-Rolex watch.

[Rebel]

Originally Posted by JRell

If I wanted a non-Rolex watch because I actually wanted one, yes why not? Plus it won’t hurt your purchase history.

This.

[RolexSimon]

Originally Posted by johnwigan

Americans generally seem to have a view that anything goes for profit. That it is natural or normal. That is why I said I don't know about America. Reading the posts on here America seems to be the worse place in the world to buy a Rolex... or get sick The ADs seem to be totally unprincipled and hardfaced. Maybe that is why Rolex Geneva is taking greater control in the USA - if true. Not sure how Rolex benefits if a customer wants to buy a £10,000 Rolex and is told by some sleazebag AD that firstly he has to buy £50,000 of stuff which he doesn't want and which benefits Rolex not one jot. In fact it actually damages the Rolex brand.

I would not have anything to do with these sleazebags. In the UK at least it is still possible to buy desirable Rolex watches without paying bribes, or buying stuff you don't want or humiliating yourself. Maybe having self-respect and treating other people with respect influences how you are treated by the world. I would not do business with sleazebags, if you do you will get the treatment you deserve.

I don't see much evidence of the "In the UK at least it is still possible to buy desirable Rolex watches without paying bribes, or buying stuff you don't want or humiliating yourself" from the UK posts in this forum in recent months. If you know the AD well and have a previous purchase history - maybe. It's just the current state of play. ADs are certainly not sleasebags IMHO - certainly not in Australia. They just have to deal with a small number of watches for a huge number of individuals who want one. At least if they know you're a real watch lover, you're less likely to be a flipper. That covers their own backsides. Rolex don't like ADs selling to flippers - at least in Australia.

[GMT Aviator]

I would and am actually considering a JLC on top of a Rolex wait list piece right now. Not to try and elevate myself up the list but because there is a JLC I’m genuinely interested in.

[calebb90]

Would you still go to McDonalds for a Happy Meal if the McFlurry machine is broken??!


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[gerry100]

How many wrists do you have?

[SS Oyster]

I’d also consider with a bit of an arm twist to buy a Patek 5711 green dial at retail.


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[BuyTheDips]

I just did. The first SA didn’t give me the time of day, but to be fair his cases were completely empty. I came in a week later, new SA and I bought a Tudor. On this day they had the cases full of exhibition pieces and she let me try on everything from a batgirl to gold day-date and skydweller. They promptly asked me if I wanted to be on the Rolex list and for which watch. The first SA called back and asked if I wanted to be added to their list and for which watch. I requested a Batman.

Who knows if I will actually land one, but I have a kick ass watch in the meantime.

[Cryptochonos1]

Maybe if the price was near list

[Deep Sea]

Originally Posted by JRell

If I wanted a non-Rolex watch because I actually wanted one, yes why not? Plus it won’t hurt your purchase history.

Yes, this ^^^.

Demand far outstrips supply, so not everybody can get their hands on a new Sub or GMT. If you have some sort of relationship with an AD, then you are far more likely to be considered than the random person coming in off the street asking for the hottest watch.

[Roddypeepa]

No I won’t. Petty but it is what it is.


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[johnwigan]

It makes me wince when I read some of the posts on here about the humiliations people are prepared to accept to have a chance to buy an expensive watch. On these boards at least, Americans seem to be treated appallingly and yet seem most prepared to accept being treated like crap. Just now I read a post from someone who had spent $50k in four years but described himself as a 'speck' to his AD.

Would I spend my money with an AD that won't sell me a Rolex? That some people would is just amazing to me. I feel embarrassed for you. Dignity and self respect are more important than any piece of jewellery.

[Snerks]

Originally Posted by johnwigan

It makes me wince when I read some of the posts on here about the humiliations people are prepared to accept to have a chance to buy an expensive watch. On these boards at least, Americans seem to be treated appallingly and yet seem most prepared to accept being treated like crap. Just now I read a post from someone who had spent $50k in four years but described himself as a 'speck' to his AD.

Would I spend my money with an AD that won't sell me a Rolex? That some people would is just amazing to me. I feel embarrassed for you. Dignity and self respect are more important than any piece of jewellery.

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[ks58]

If you love a watch and it's not a Rolex, buy it and enjoy it. Life is a bit too short to just languish and pity yourself for not getting the Rolex because it's hard to get or for their better customers.

[WBaileyii]

I guess it comes down to "can't" or "won't" (as many have already posted). Demand for SS Rolexes far outstrips supply right now, so they can be really difficult to obtain. If I thought it was "won't", I would not give them my business. Right now I believe it is "can't". I purchased two Grand Seikos and a Tudor BB58 925 from my AD because I wanted the watches and I do wear them frequently. Just because they haven't been able to get me the highly desirable Rolexes I want, doesn't mean that they are "playing games with me". It simply means that they have some longer term, higher spending customers who asked for those very few available references before I did.

[Slaybo]

Nope. Plenty of options out there.

[21321Batman]

Originally Posted by ks58

If you love a watch and it's not a Rolex, buy it and enjoy it. Life is a bit too short to just languish and pity yourself for not getting the Rolex because it's hard to get or for their better customers.

This ^

I bought an Oris Aquis from a Rolex AD because I liked the watch, had been looking for it, and was given a 25% discount.

Looking back I think it helped me get my BLNR. At the time, I was just fired up I found something perfect for Ohio Saturdays in the fall.



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[teck21]

Originally Posted by WBaileyii

I guess it comes down to "can't" or "won't" (as many have already posted). Demand for SS Rolexes far outstrips supply right now, so they can be really difficult to obtain. If I thought it was "won't", I would not give them my business. Right now I believe it is "can't". I purchased two Grand Seikos and a Tudor BB58 925 from my AD because I wanted the watches and I do wear them frequently. Just because they haven't been able to get me the highly desirable Rolexes I want, doesn't mean that they are "playing games with me". It simply means that they have some longer term, higher spending customers who asked for those very few available references before I did.

Most people only see the rejection and aren’t interested in trying to understand why.

Strictly speaking though, your example is still more a case of won’t rather than can’t.

The only way an AD truly ‘can’t’ sell anyone a Rolex is if everything was put up for sale on a first come first serve, and they have sold out.


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