How does the whitetag authenticate dial?

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

Please post where you heard this. First time I read this kind of nonsense.

Read the thread, jump to conclusions guy.

[APPRF]

When buying a Panda Daytona, coloured OP, Meteorite or coloured dials that demand a higher premium in the market it's very important to check for the white plastic tag with the right serial number and reference corresponding to the dial. Most Rolex references it's not important, it's just something to make you feel better about having a full set. All the watches I bought from the Gulf or UK had the white tag. Europe is different, as I know that most Paris ADs hold them.

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

Please post where you heard this. First time I read this kind of nonsense.

Not nonsense, at all! He simply means there is a dial code on the tag. For instance, the white hang tag, on my OP has dial code “001”, which tells me, that my watch should have a silver dial, which it does. This info is vital, if buying a watch on the secondary market. You are verifying that your Rolex is configured, as it was, when it left the factory.

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[maxGMT]

Originally Posted by bay_area_kid

The "Superlative Certified" green tag is not special at all. You can buy those separately and in bulk.

The white plastic tag is more important because it has both the serial number and the full 10-digit reference. The last four digits after the "-" indicates the dial from factory. The last four digits are not present in the warranty card, the card only shows the first six digits which makes it impossible to determine the original dial configuration if you don't have the white plastic tag.

Those details are very helpful if you are in the process of buying a pre-owned watch and you want to verify the watch's dial configuration is correct for its serial number.

Note I bolded the word "plastic" above. A lot of Rolex ADs (even the managers) confuse the white plastic tag with the white inventory tag. So both white tags end up getting disposed. But they are supposed to give you the white plastic tag with your purchase. At least that's how it was explained to me by my Rolex AD and their Rolex rep.

I understand your point, but if you buy pre-owned this should never be used as a verification that the watch is factory original. There is e.g. no way of telling if you are looking at a service dial.
In Sweden, some ADs withhold the white plastic tag, stickers, box sleeve, coffins and bezel protector since they are considered packaging and not part of the product presentation. Other ADs let you keep all of the aforementioned. What we know for sure is that you are entitled to receive: watch, inner and outer box, warranty card in card holder, warranty booklet, user guide and green seal tag. That’s it, Box and papers.

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by maxGMT

I understand your point, but if you buy pre-owned this should never be used as a verification that the watch is factory original. There is e.g. no way of telling if you are looking at a service dial.
In Sweden, some ADs withhold the white plastic tag, stickers, box sleeve, coffins and bezel protector since they are considered packaging and not part of the product presentation. Other ADs let you keep all of the aforementioned. What we know for sure is that you are entitled to receive: watch, inner and outer box, warranty card in card holder, warranty booklet, user guide and green seal tag. That’s it, Box and papers.

Not sure what they do in Sweden, but it seems to vary, here in the US. The coffins are merely how the watch is shipped to the AD. The bezel protector is part of the same. The AD may give you both of those items, if asked. Otherwise, you won’t even see them. The ADs usually remove all the stickers, before presenting the watch to the customer.
So, ideally, the complete package should include all of the things you mentioned, including the outer sleeve, and the white hang tag. That’s how MY AD does it. Others, apparently, omit the white hang tag, which makes no sense, to me. I think it’s important.


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[worldofoyster]

Originally Posted by maxGMT

The green seal hang tag is the official mark that your watch has been certified as a chronometer. Far more important than the white inventory tag.

The green tag comes with every rolex and all rolex are chronometer certified, but the green tag contains no information about the watch and you can get them off ebay. on the other hand, the white tag is unqiue to the watch and contains VERY important about the watch, even to identify the bracelet or dial of the watch. so you calling that not important?

[worldofoyster]

Originally Posted by Osmin

The ADs are not supposed to give this out anymore!

who said so? My AD gives out the whitetag if you ask.

[maxGMT]

Originally Posted by worldofoyster

who said so? My AD gives out the whitetag if you ask.

My AD said yes twice in 2018, no in 2021 and then yes again in 2022.
This is my point, there is no common practice regarding the provision of the white plastic tag. It is entirely up to the AD.

[maxGMT]

Originally Posted by worldofoyster

The green tag comes with every rolex and all rolex are chronometer certified, but the green tag contains no information about the watch and you can get them off ebay. on the other hand, the white tag is unqiue to the watch and contains VERY important about the watch, even to identify the bracelet or dial of the watch. so you calling that not important?

All of the info you mention above is provided on your sales invoice/receipt. Also, you can walk into any RSC and ask for a service estimate. If something doesn’t match up in the configuration they will let you know.

[kopi-c]

Originally Posted by Osmin

The ADs are not supposed to give this out anymore!

I was given/asked to keep it few months ago when i bought my watch from rolex AD.

It identifies the reference model, dial type, and serial number.

[EEpro]

In summary:

The white tag is unique to your watch and is very useful for determining factory configuration.

Some people like the white tag.

Some people dislike the white tag.

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by EEpro

In summary:

The white tag is unique to your watch and is very useful for determining factory configuration.

Some people like the white tag.

Some people dislike the white tag.

What is there to dislike?

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[EEpro]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

What is there to dislike?

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I mean it's pointless if you can just drive your watch to RSC for the same data

[KatGirl]

I’ll jump in the car now….Oh, wait. I don’t have to. I have MY white tags.



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[maxGMT]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

I’ll jump in the car now….Oh, wait. I don’t have to. I have MY white tags.



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Haha! To be on the safe side, please bring your white plastic tag to the RSC to have it verified. You never know… 😂🤪😂

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by maxGMT

Haha! To be on the safe side, please bring your white plastic tag to the RSC to have it verified. You never know…

Good point! Where is the RSC, in wine country? More importantly, will they serve me some bubbly, while I wait? ?


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[EEpro]

Originally Posted by maxGMT

Haha! To be on the safe side, please bring your white plastic tag to the RSC to have it verified. You never know…

Dammit. I just checked mine under 10x loupe and it looks like it's been polished.

[worldofoyster]

Originally Posted by EEpro

In summary:

The white tag is unique to your watch and is very useful for determining factory configuration.

Some people like the white tag.

Some people dislike the white tag.

do you mean that they dislike the idea of not being a full set due to the missing white tag because their ADs didn't give it to them?

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by worldofoyster

do you mean that they dislike the idea of not being a full set due to the missing white tag because their ADs didn't give it to them?

I think he just means that some folks don’t think the white hang tag is important. I actually watched a YouTube video, where a watch reviewer did a Rolex unboxing video, for the sole purpose of showing what should be included in “a full kit” , when buying brand new, from an AD. She showed the white hang tag, and also the outer sleeve that covers the Rolex box, as things that are included. Everything she showed was what my AD includes with a brand new Rolex.

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[TXshaggy]

Interesting discussion, I had to go look at what my SA provides at delivery.

Green lollipop dongle, the discussed white tag w/full model and dial reference.

I noted that on my warranty card and on my receipt some sort of "barbell" shaped small sticker that also contained all the white tag info, plus the metal makeup, and some other cryptic stuff.

So I guess if you don't have those little stickers it's not a full set either...lol.

[TXshaggy]

Interesting discussion, I had to go look at what my SA provides at delivery.

Green lollipop dongle, the discussed white tag w/full model and dial reference.

I noted that on my warranty card and on my receipt some sort of "barbell" shaped small sticker that also contained all the white tag info, plus the metal makeup, and some other cryptic stuff.

So I guess if you don't have those little stickers it's not a full set either...lol.

[TXshaggy]

Super important stuff so I had to say it twice...apologies for the double click.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by TXshaggy

Interesting discussion, I had to go look at what my SA provides at delivery.

Green lollipop dongle, the discussed white tag w/full model and dial reference.

I noted that on my warranty card and on my receipt some sort of "barbell" shaped small sticker that also contained all the white tag info, plus the metal makeup, and some other cryptic stuff.

So I guess if you don't have those little stickers it's not a full set either...lol.

Do you have a pic of the barbell thing and the metal makeup and cryptic stuff?

[TXshaggy]

Originally Posted by EEpro

Do you have a pic of the barbell thing and the metal makeup and cryptic stuff?

Sure, here ya go…same exact sticker on my warranty card

This is on my receipt. Note the box is also itemized. These guys like to document

SN was scratched out.




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[ArtNouveau]

I think that barbell sticker comes on the “coffin” that the watch is shipped to the dealer in. I have three of the old style plastic coffins and pretty sure that’s where it’s from. It is gone from them so guessing that the dealer kept them for something. Two of them do have another sticker with a number and barcode but the number is not the serial or reference number.

[ArtNouveau]

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[EEpro]

Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

I think that barbell sticker comes on the “coffin” that the watch is shipped to the dealer in. I have three of the old style plastic coffins and pretty sure that’s where it’s from. It is gone from them so guessing that the dealer kept them for something. Two of them do have another sticker with a number and barcode but the number is not the serial or reference number.

That's where I've seen it. It keeps the plastic halves stuck together in shipping.

Hardly as cool as the white hang tag with Rolex green thread. But I'd keep it if I had it.

[ijoinedforthisthread]

Originally Posted by mrlube1151001

I have bought few rolexes from A.D. They don’t give me the hang tags.when asked they said they are not supposed to give hang tags with watches.Is than true

I used to get the white tag prior to June this year. But I've had a couple recently that didn't come with the white tag as the AD said it is their new policy.

[illiguy]

Here is the inventory sticker that is affixed to the white outer sleeve of the small Rolex box I received with my 14060M.

There are actually two stickers stacked on top of one another.

Not sure if AD specific or from Rolex.



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[Tbird]

The 4-digit code after the model number on the white tag also gives the bracelet that it originally had. On my datejust, a 126200-0007, it is a jubilee bracelet (correct with my watch) when I google the number. When I google "126200-0008" it gives the same dial but with an oyster bracelet. So all the options covered in one code! Have a good Christmas everyone.