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4 January 2024, 08:36 PM | #91 | |
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4 January 2024, 08:40 PM | #92 | |
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ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder |
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4 January 2024, 09:41 PM | #93 | |
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4 January 2024, 09:50 PM | #94 |
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As an outsider it is easy to judge this, but I’m not sure how him being banned means you got scammed. It seems the transaction was recent and he is communicating with you. This just seems like an odd chain of events. If I paid someone $14,000, I would have exhausted all possibilities with the seller and police before wasting time making vague posts.
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4 January 2024, 10:27 PM | #95 | |
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4 January 2024, 10:28 PM | #96 | |
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With the additional information, I am even more convinced this is a false alarm. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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4 January 2024, 10:33 PM | #97 | |
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4 January 2024, 10:51 PM | #98 | |
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You transfer This week 14K. The seller does not answer in two days. The information was fluent till last week. You see the guy was banned on 30/12. What would you think? Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk |
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4 January 2024, 10:51 PM | #99 |
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As posted in another forum on TRF, I was dealing with JeromeL on another watch. Got close enough to get his bank details and home address. At least that of who he wanted the transfer to go to. Wasn't his name.
There were a couple of red flags in his reply with bank information. I asked for a phone call along with the wire transfer info. He responded late day on NY eve that he was at work and couldn't. Didn't offer an alternative time. I also provided several references in that message. He provided none. That's when I came back to TRF to see what the Feedback system was like. At which point I saw the banned tag under his user name. So, I contacted a moderator here and Tim responded. That account has been compromised/hacked. When a seller is banned that’s generally the reason. Do NOT purchase from this person, it’s not the person who originally opened the account here. Tim Despite the banned tag, all his for sale posts were still live including a link to a gmail account. They were live for a day, after getting the response from a moderator about the reason for the ban. The seller had several for sale posts over a few months and the account was about a year old. Couldn't find the user name or email anywhere else on Google or other watch forums. Couldn't find any mention of the name he sent for the transfer on Google or other social. The home address was for a 900 Sq/Ft bungalo in Cloverdale CA. Zillow and Redfin estimated the value at around U$.5M. Not the type of place a colletor a handful of $10k watches lives. Couldn't establish what his watch interest was because he refused to take a phone call. I use Watchrecon to look for watches. Got an account here mainly because you have to login to see the pictures. I've been on Timezone and other watch forums since the late 90s under the same user name as here. No sign of this seller's name anywhere else. Checked in again last night to see if the for sale posts were still up. They weren't but found this post from the OP. Greg |
4 January 2024, 10:54 PM | #100 |
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Dang OP! I hope you get your money back.
Shouldn’t this thread be in the WatchOut section?
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4 January 2024, 10:56 PM | #101 |
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I have done this few times. Bought quite expensive watches (the latest was VC 4500) at this forum being in another country. You just need to do a proper due diligence, buy the seller, not watch as they say
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4 January 2024, 11:04 PM | #102 |
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I belong to a number of forums, but would I buy anything of value from a forum Classifieds section? Never in a million years.
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4 January 2024, 11:17 PM | #103 |
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Very sorry OP. I'm hoping the best for you and will be following here.
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4 January 2024, 11:53 PM | #104 | ||
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If it does not work out, there are ways to find the miscreant without using local law enforcement (who likely won't be bothered to do anything). It may be throwing good money after bad, but there are options. I suspect that the most common "scam" on this forum is people who have established feedback getting their accounts highjacked by either not using 2FA or falling victim to a phishing email/PM. Those hijacked accounts are (I suspect) eventually banned to prevent further scamming. I have bought and sold many watches through this forum and others to (and from) individuals and with proper due diligence, have not had any issues.
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5 January 2024, 12:58 AM | #106 |
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Why would you buy a watch from the US if youre located in Europe…. Many sellers and watches over there even in spain …. So you try to save $1k or $2k for this transaction and at the end you lose it all …. Not a good idea my friend …. Sorry to be harsh IMO
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5 January 2024, 01:07 AM | #107 | |
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Thank You. If what some of these posters were saying is correct, the only time fraud could be committed would be if someone made the wire transfer at gunpoint. Which is clearly not the case. |
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5 January 2024, 01:08 AM | #108 |
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hopefully OP gets his money back.
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5 January 2024, 01:49 AM | #109 |
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The seller did not wir the funds back
I wired 14K to DAWN HIRSCHY 106 TENIENTE CT FORT WAYNE, IN 4685 PNC BANK, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION LOUSIVILLE, KY jertimepiece@gmail.com Is there any possibility anyone could helpe me me to file a report in the US. I have an email chain with the wire screenshot, etc thanks |
5 January 2024, 01:58 AM | #110 | |
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There is a Dawn Hirschy in Fort Wayne Indiana, but that address is not accurate, that street has numbers that start in the 1000 range, there is no 106. The bank should have matched the address to the account, and I don't think that would have worked.
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5 January 2024, 02:00 AM | #111 | |
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called to all tel numbers I saw in Internet pointing out to this name an address.. nothing, the problem is tu file a report .. |
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5 January 2024, 02:03 AM | #112 |
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5 January 2024, 02:10 AM | #114 | |
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I did a transfer of 6.100USD and a colleague from me of the US wired 7.100 (As I just sold them a watch I preferred him to wire 7.1K and I do the rest) I am also in touch with my colleague, as 7.100 were transferred from an US citizen perhaps it helps an he can issue the file |
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5 January 2024, 02:11 AM | #115 |
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Contact Dawn through her employer. A quick google search shows she works at Lancia Homes in Fort Wayne. If this doesn't work, then tell the employer about your experience. They should know what their employees are doing.
ETA: I am sure Jamie Lancia and Jim Lancia would be interested to know their accounts payable employee is scamming people. |
5 January 2024, 02:18 AM | #116 |
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NO. This is very not cool. I would presume that any decent scammer is using someone else's identity, just like they did with the TRF account.
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5 January 2024, 02:30 AM | #117 |
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That in itself is super risky. The reason most accounts get banned is they were phished. This was a high risk transaction to begin with even if account wasn’t banned as you are talking about a guy with little history/reputation. So for me, I wouldn’t send an unknown 14 dollars let alone 14k. This should never have happened and sadly a costly lesson to the OP. With all of the trusted sellers in the community I have zero idea why anyone would roll the dice with so much money. The only reason people do it is to try to save a few dollars which ends up costing them a lot more in the end. So it sucks but should have never happened if one exercised proper caution and care.
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5 January 2024, 02:49 AM | #119 | |
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Hopefully this is comes up in a search if they try to use this ID again. Bank: Capital One Name: Asaisha Jayne Williams Account number: 36257028955 Routing number: 031176110 Swift Code: NFBKUS33 House address: 129 Caldwell Cloverdale, CA 95425 Bank Address: 821 Americana Way, Glendale, CA 91210 |
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5 January 2024, 03:11 AM | #120 |
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always always ask for a facetime with the seller, one of the better way to vet.
if they refused, means they don't have the watch nor they wanna show their faces. as a seller and buyer here, i always ask for a facetime when dealing with a new seller. for me as seller, i always recommend the buyer of my watches to facetime me, even with the huge time difference, i make an effort to do so. i have been scammed once here on the forums before and someone else used my username to scam others (luckily there were no victims) take care and i don't think you will ever see your 14k USD back. i lost my 15k back then, lesson learnt, will never ever happen to me again. |
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