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View Poll Results: Does your 32xx movement seem to be 100% ok? | |||
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1,039 | 69.83% |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) but timekeeping is still fine |
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61 | 4.10% |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) and timekeeping is off (>5 s/d) |
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388 | 26.08% |
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I forgot to mention that the watch is never fully wind since I alternate wearing it with another watch and also I don’t wear it sleeping “8 hours” nor exercising “3 hours” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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To be clear, are you saying all 3 had issues or you just got so fed up with the one that you got rid of them all?
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Good question. Only the TT DJ41 ever had the issue. The others were not held long so no data there. I did see low amplitude with the offending one relative to the other two. High 100s to low 200s at full wind depending on position. The other two were 220-240 if I recall.
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(1) Full watch winding, set correct time (2) Put watch at rest with dial up (3) Don't wind, move or touch it. (4) Measure systematically the accuracy, e.g. after 6, 12, 18, 24 .... hours until the movement has stopped (autonomy) This simple test gives you an indication of the amplitude decrease with time. As soon as the amplitude gets < 200 degrees (which you don't see!) the rate goes to - "LARGE" s/d. If that happens in the first 24 hours after full winding, then this movement very likely has an issue. That test everybody can do! No need of a timegrapher or any App. |
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All supporting contributions (no issue or issue) are very WELCOME ... "but" the objective of this thread is to acquire usable DATA DATA DATA. Please, quantify as much as you can! |
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Trust me, this thread aint going anywhere. Especially if we keep it on track.
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The bit I know about Rolex I learnt on TRF .
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Thanks for providing data, much acknowledged. Can you continue tests without winding every day? Just do the simple sequence I described in post #97. You can run this test with several watches in parallel. |
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My husband has 2 DJ41’s purchased in October, 2020. They are running fine and he is very happy with them. He checks them every day or two against his iPhone clock. He does not have any diagnostic or technical interest beyond basic timekeeping.
We are following these threads with interest and hope Rolex figures this out and comes up with a permanent fix, sooner than later. Thanks to all who have commented and added understanding and positive insight to these discussions. |
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I'll add my data, not much but its all i have:
Model: DJ41 w/ 30 mark and not ♛ Purchase Date: 2018 Own Duration: ~24 months Original Rate: +1 s/d Current Rate: -6 s/d |
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You can not overwind it. By design, the mainspring will slide along the inner wall of the barrel. Whenever I wear an automatic watch that has stopped from not wearing it or sitting a day or two, I fully wind it. The movement functions optimally with a fully loaded mainspring. |
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Would be nice if you could run the test I described in post #97, steps (1)-(4) Cheers. |
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I did the power reserve test on SD43 and took readings throughout the process:
full wind, dial up +0.5 SPD 284 amp 10 hours, -0.5 SPD 273 amp 34 hours, -1.6 SPD 250 amp 48 hours -2.5 SPD 227 amp 58 hours -7.3 SPD 193 amp power reserve lasted 72.5 hours Yes there is a 70 hour power reserve, but a mechanical watch isn't intended to be worn every few days. It performs optimally and consistently if worn every day. Dual barrels would only improve the time keeping if a watch was sitting over at least 12 hours. The second barrel doesn’t start releasing until the first is almost unwound. |
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So, this is FAR from a scientific measurement, but as stated, I normally wear my new Sub 24-7, and checking every few days or so it is running a consistent (approximately) - 1.4 or -1.5 seconds a day. This is just me looking at the second hand compared to my internet time. I do not have any measuring equipment, however last time I was at my AD he put it on the machine and below are the results. I was asked to not wear the watch for 24 hours, just let it sit (I am assuming to let it wind down a bit) and check. I did. The results are it was (again just from my eyes looking at the second hand versus my phone) a +1 second. It was on a stand, dial up (actually with my watch stand it’s not completely up, almost at a 45 degree angle, but close to “up”). I have no idea what this means... but PLEASE don’t ask me not to wear my Rolex for 24 hours again ![]() |
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My Submariner 124060 keeps great time. Power reserve 70 hour+. No issues at all.
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Your AD data explain as follows: ![]() From left column to the right column: watch position; rate (s/d), beat error (ms), amplitude (degrees) Bottom line shows the averages = SUM:6 Amplitudes: Dial up & dial down: 278, 279 degrees: both values very close (excellent) All other positions: 249-251 degrees: all 4 values very close (excellent) Conclusion: this movement has no issue at all, I understand that these data were taken after full winding. That your watch is running "a consistent (approximately) - 1.4 or -1.5 seconds a day" is given by your wearing pattern, absolutely nothing to worry about. Some owners prefer that their watches run slightly + instead of -, but that's only a matter of taste |
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What is the purchase date of your SD43? |
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Oh so a watch can pass from being plus to minus “second per day” depending on power reserve?! Didn’t know that. I thought it either go fast or slow. Good to know, this explains why my SD43 passed from being plus 2 sec to now - 0.5. It’s getting no more than 10 hours of wrist time per day. That explains everything now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Also, as for “fully wound”...I wind the crown 20-25 times (I thought was recommended). Isn’t that enough? I have a ladies’ Yachtmaster, so not the movement at issue, but my watch turns 20 next month and it keeps great time. I’d guess that the power reserve is at about 30 hours, though. |
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