The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Rolex General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 3 October 2014, 07:45 PM   #91
Rashid.bk
"TRF" Member
 
Rashid.bk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Dallas
Watch: 12800ft = 3900m
Posts: 11,172
Quote:
Originally Posted by donq View Post
Watch sizes for the most part seem to be rounded off by twos. (36mm,38mm,40mm,42mm) for whatever reason. I suspect it's like a shoe size. It gives you an approximate idea of the size of the thing. I'm sure Rolex knows the exact size of their watches, and suggesting that they are trying to engage in some sort of deception or dishonesty is a bit of a stretch. It's not like it's a measurement of a gallon of gas or an ounce of gold. The price is not related to this measurement.
Exactly, very good points, particular the one regarding price.
Rashid.bk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 October 2014, 09:20 PM   #92
SALTY
"TRF" Member
 
SALTY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: USA
Watch: Your Six
Posts: 1,500
The next time a buy a Rolex and the price is, oh let's say $9,365, I'll just give them $9,000 even.
__________________
Time and tide wait for no man.
SALTY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 October 2014, 10:37 PM   #93
Passionata
"TRF" Member
 
Passionata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: N/A
Watch: the girls
Posts: 7,095
My uncle asked my this summer how old my daughter is ,I told him she is 10 ,
he said ,sorry mate but I visiting you since three years and if i ask how old is she you always says ,10. It s imposibble.
Well the trick was when he first asked me she was barely 10 but I d rather said a bit more 2nd time she was 10 and last time he asked she was just before her 10th Bday.-

must be the same with Rolex , they round the things for easygoing manner .
__________________
Best
George

"Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston
---------------------
*new*https://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE *new *

http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ
IG @passionata1
Passionata is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 October 2014, 10:56 PM   #94
Rashid.bk
"TRF" Member
 
Rashid.bk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Dallas
Watch: 12800ft = 3900m
Posts: 11,172
Quote:
Originally Posted by SALTY View Post
The next time a buy a Rolex and the price is, oh let's say $9,365, I'll just give them $9,000 even.
Yeah but Rolex rounds up soooo...
Rashid.bk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 October 2014, 11:01 PM   #95
tkerrmd
"TRF" Member
 
tkerrmd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: Tom
Location: In a race car!
Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES
Posts: 24,123
Quote:
Originally Posted by directioneng View Post
Hmmm.....6.5 inches.....that explains why your times are so slow Tommy.

you know lighter is faster!!
tkerrmd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 October 2014, 11:02 PM   #96
Passionata
"TRF" Member
 
Passionata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: N/A
Watch: the girls
Posts: 7,095
Quote:
Originally Posted by tkerrmd View Post
you know lighter is faster!!
__________________
Best
George

"Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston
---------------------
*new*https://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE *new *

http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ
IG @passionata1
Passionata is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 12:28 AM   #97
psv
2024 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: USA & France
Posts: 11,078
Thanks for measuring the cases, guys! :-)
psv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 12:34 AM   #98
Chewbacca
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2012
Real Name: CJ
Location: Kashyyyk
Watch: Kessel Run Chrono
Posts: 21,112
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken B View Post
A while back I read that the Daytona was smaller than 40mm. I put it to the test. I am kinda anal when it comes to measurements and accuracy. Rolex says the Daytona is a 40mm case. When I measure it with a set of digital calipers I get 38.55mm. Is this only true on the SS version of the Daytona? It does kind of make me wonder what else they are exaggerating. Has anyone measured their Rolex watch case to see what the real size is?

I did measure all my other watches and found them all to be true to their advertised sizes.

I went and measured my wife's watch a 31mm Datejust. It came to 31.54mm
why those lousy sauerkraut making, peace loving, st. bernard breeding, time checking, alp climbing, money wiring, toblerone eating jerks will pay for this outrage! who's with me?!
Chewbacca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 01:02 AM   #99
adzman808
"TRF" Member
 
adzman808's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Porto and the UK
Watch: 114060
Posts: 176
Quote:
Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post
SubCs are supposedly 40.5mm
My 114060 measures up at this, I don't care really!
adzman808 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 03:27 AM   #100
landroverking
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Real Name: Jay
Location: TEXAS
Watch: Daytona
Posts: 7,648
Is the Zenith Daytona the same as the in house movement.
I know the cases are different.
landroverking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 03:48 AM   #101
Rashid.bk
"TRF" Member
 
Rashid.bk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Dallas
Watch: 12800ft = 3900m
Posts: 11,172
Quote:
Originally Posted by landroverking View Post
Is the Zenith Daytona the same as the in house movement.
I know the cases are different.
Nope, movement is from Zenith.
Rashid.bk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 07:23 AM   #102
donq
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Dallas tx
Watch: 16610,1675,16030
Posts: 1,136
"And for the record, I worked in the Avition business and a few thousandths wrong on a caliper can kill an entire plane full of people. I know how to read and use a set of calipers. I own three sets. Also my calipers are all calibrated by a PMEL company. "


The clearances inside a Rolex are much tighter than a few thousandths of an inch!

Accuracy in watchmaking is a bit closer than in aircraft generally speaking....
donq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 07:29 AM   #103
landroverking
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Real Name: Jay
Location: TEXAS
Watch: Daytona
Posts: 7,648
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rashid.bk View Post
Nope, movement is from Zenith.
Asking about the case not the movement
landroverking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 07:40 AM   #104
Rashid.bk
"TRF" Member
 
Rashid.bk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Dallas
Watch: 12800ft = 3900m
Posts: 11,172
Quote:
Originally Posted by landroverking View Post
Asking about the case not the movement
Hmm, not sure, sorry about that.
Rashid.bk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 07:50 AM   #105
GradyPhilpott
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
GradyPhilpott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Mexico
Watch: 116710 BLNR
Posts: 34,404
The crown guards are an integral part of the case. Are any of the measurements including those?

Besides, why don't people take calipers to their ADs and measure the watches there instead of waiting until they've paid for the things to try and start a firestorm of controversy.

If a millimeter and a half is going to make that much difference, then sell it.
__________________
JJ

Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner
GradyPhilpott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 07:56 AM   #106
GradyPhilpott
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
GradyPhilpott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Mexico
Watch: 116710 BLNR
Posts: 34,404
Quote:
Originally Posted by rolepam312 View Post
No wonder my Rolex is the least accurate of all my watches ... They just do enough to make sure it runs somewhat accurate , who cares about the details like ensuring proper measurement for case size... Just round them up... It's only a " timepiece "....by the way, Daytona's are not "40" ... 39 if that, and those of you who think it doesn't make a difference, think again, it's a psychological issue, knowing something is 39mm is different than telling you it's 40 and you know it's not... Some sellers here have resorted to such tactics, describing their watch is " 40" when the manufacturer says otherwise ... So why would the seller do that?? Because that extra 1mm becomes an issues when we decide to purchase.... I find such tactic misleading and dishonest...therefore, Rolex is misleading and dishonest when they can't provide proper measurement ... SubC 40??? I don't think so....
This is the most ridiculous post I've read on this site in a very long time.
__________________
JJ

Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner
GradyPhilpott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 11:31 AM   #107
Ken B
"TRF" Member
 
Ken B's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Phoenix, AZ USA
Watch: To many to count
Posts: 766
Quote:
Originally Posted by donq View Post
The clearances inside a Rolex are much tighter than a few thousandths of an inch!

Accuracy in watchmaking is a bit closer than in aircraft generally speaking....
LOL, you have never seen how tight the tolerances are in jet engines. Fuel controls, servo actuators, Hydraulic pumps and so forth. Then if we break down the silicon chips in the avionics that are measured in Nanometers. The use of Micrometers are normal and required by quality control for all mecanical parts.
I'm not doubting Rolex tolerences, but I know aircraft very well. thousandths mean everything.
__________________
Omega Planet Ocean 600m Chrono 45.5mm
Tudor Heritage Chrono (blue) 42mm
Breitling Chronomat GMT 44mm
Tudor Black Bay Bronze 43mm
KRB Imaging and Photography
Ken B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 12:08 PM   #108
donq
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Dallas tx
Watch: 16610,1675,16030
Posts: 1,136
Acceptable tolerances in mechanical watchmaking (not electronic microchips) is .002 to .005 microns. I build engines for a living and know all about micrometers and the value of a thou here and there. Watchmaking is on a totally different scale..

.002 microns is 0.000000079 inches..
donq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 02:52 PM   #109
fmc000
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Real Name: Fabio
Location: Como - Italy
Posts: 4,811
Quote:
Originally Posted by landroverking View Post
Is the Zenith Daytona the same as the in house movement.
I know the cases are different.
Regardless of the movement: SS, YG on bracelet and TT are 38.6mm; WG, RG, platinum and all the leather models are 1mm wider.

I repeat: Zenith or in house movement make no difference with regard to the case size.
fmc000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 09:00 PM   #110
Xenophon
2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member
 
Xenophon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Real Name: Xenophon
Location: UK
Posts: 2,710
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken B View Post
A while back I read that the Daytona was smaller than 40mm. I put it to the test. I am kinda anal when it comes to measurements and accuracy. Rolex says the Daytona is a 40mm case. When I measure it with a set of digital calipers I get 38.55mm. Is this only true on the SS version of the Daytona? It does kind of make me wonder what else they are exaggerating. Has anyone measured their Rolex watch case to see what the real size is?

I did measure all my other watches and found them all to be true to their advertised sizes.

I went and measured my wife's watch a 31mm Datejust. It came to 31.54mm
Very interesting, thanks for posting. I suspected this as the Daytona that I had certainly wore smaller than the many other "40mm" ones that I have owned.
__________________
The sea! The sea! Θάλαττα! θάλαττα!
Xenophon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 09:34 PM   #111
The Joker
"TRF" Member
 
The Joker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Gotham
Posts: 9,639
Quote:
Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott View Post
This is the most ridiculous post I've read on this site in a very long time.
What worst than my posts?......
The Joker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 09:34 PM   #112
The Joker
"TRF" Member
 
The Joker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Gotham
Posts: 9,639
You were right Grady.
The Joker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 10:41 PM   #113
GradyPhilpott
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
GradyPhilpott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Mexico
Watch: 116710 BLNR
Posts: 34,404
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Joker View Post
You were right Grady.
__________________
JJ

Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner
GradyPhilpott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2014, 11:06 PM   #114
rolepam312
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: arizona
Posts: 415
Likewise

Quote:
Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott View Post
This is the most ridiculous post I've read on this site in a very long time.

Your opinion of my opinion, I find equally ridiculous....
rolepam312 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 January 2015, 08:58 PM   #115
GolfPunk
"TRF" Member
 
GolfPunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Real Name: Gary
Location: UK
Watch: WG Daytona
Posts: 4,398
As the SS 116520 has been measured at around 38.6mm, what about the 116509 White Gold and the platinum Daytona, they seem slightly larger as the lugs on the right hand side arent narrowed like the 116520?

Anyone know these measurements please?
__________________
♕ Rolex Daytona White Gold 116509 (Ghost) ♕
GolfPunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 January 2015, 09:29 PM   #116
Catyack
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Gone
Posts: 217
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewbacca View Post
why those lousy sauerkraut making, peace loving, st. bernard breeding, time checking, alp climbing, money wiring, toblerone eating jerks will pay for this outrage! who's with me?!
Count me in. They need some payback for subjecting the rest of the world to the smell of cheese fondue and their incessant yodeling.
Catyack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 January 2015, 09:44 PM   #117
padi56
"TRF" Life Patron
 
padi56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Real Name: Peter
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng
Watch: ing you.
Posts: 52,767
Perhaps Rolex should when they sell there watches give to the customer some digital scales,digital micrometer,and 50X loupes.Then when they get home to check weight,size, alignment points and for minute so called imperfections.
__________________

ICom Pro3

All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only.

"The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever."
Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again.

www.mc0yad.club

Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder
padi56 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 7 January 2015, 11:23 PM   #118
GTC
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2014
Real Name: Douglas
Location: HSV / ANC
Watch: 126660
Posts: 626
Quote:
Originally Posted by sturgeon123456 View Post
Alright how about this.....the companies behind every canned, prepackaged or boxed food item we eat are allowed to misrepresent the items in said food for the purposes of protecting their secret recipe.......meaning that when you read the ingredients there is a very strong chance that you aren't eating what you think. I don't hear people complaining about this but 3% differential on a watch has turned into a huge debate.

Honestly if you have a problem with it don't buy it!

Plus this has been exhausted before........http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=275504 on here....so OP if you had questions a simple search would have sufficed.

Beating dead horses is fun though i guess.

Also this has been stated As said many times, SS, TT, YG on bracelet are 38.6mm - RG, WG, Pt, all leather models are 39.66mm"

I happen to have a yellow gold daytona so I guess I am lucky that mine is bigger than yours ;)
I can't imagine why someone would make an argument for possible misrepresentations being okay by a high end watch company based on the alleged practices of food companies. Some of the most dissonant logic I have seen here. Then to tell the OP if he doesn't like it don't buy it?

Laborious, inane, or brilliant, the OP is using TRF for one of the purposes it is intended for, the issue is a legitimate discussion, if not just to clear up a perceived misperception or identify an actual problem, previous threads on the issue notwithstanding, and the question is presented fairly. I don't care, but I would think we should respect the right of those who do. "Honestly, if you have a problem with it then don't read it."
GTC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 January 2015, 12:00 AM   #119
rollerball
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: United States
Posts: 245
Thank for the info, an enlightenment after so many years of knowing the Daytona. While most of us buy watches based on how it wears on the wrist instead of relying on what Rolex claims about the actual size, I still feel that Rolex should re-classify correctly at perhaps at a round of of 39 mm since its a valid "class" of size.
rollerball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 January 2015, 01:14 AM   #120
technik1
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by rollerball View Post
Thank for the info, an enlightenment after so many years of knowing the Daytona. While most of us buy watches based on how it wears on the wrist instead of relying on what Rolex claims about the actual size, I still feel that Rolex should re-classify correctly at perhaps at a round of of 39 mm since its a valid "class" of size.
I agree 100%. They list the Explorer I as 39mm. The should do the same with the Daytona. I know 1.4 mm doesn't sound like a lot, but on a watch that's on the smaller end to begin with 1.4 mm makes it wear noticeably smaller than their 40mm sport models.

They don't seem to be shy about their 41mm DJ, or their 42mm Skydweller or Explorer II.

No wonder Daytonas have become so popular with the ladies.
technik1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Wrist Aficionado

Asset Appeal

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

My Watch LLC

OCWatches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.