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Old 17 September 2024, 08:05 AM   #91
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Yes you are. I’ll die on this hill that it’s nuts to pay $30k for these. Hype aside they’re nowhere close to worth this.
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Old 17 September 2024, 08:16 AM   #92
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Sorry, but I would never pay grey prices for any Rolex!
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Old 17 September 2024, 08:20 AM   #93
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I personally wouldn’t but it comes down to money. If you just have that kind of money and you’re cool with it, do it.
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Old 17 September 2024, 09:12 AM   #94
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Sad to say but…

It’s not crazy at all when “the steel piece” at PP is $100k, then “that other steel piece” is at $70k.

Then you think about that this one has a chronograph and is at $30k. It doesn’t hurt quite as much. If you reduce the prices proportionally back down to 2019, then it’s not bad at all.






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Old 17 September 2024, 09:25 AM   #95
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I'm getting married next month and want to mark the occasion. I'm a good customer at 2 AD's, but am fully aware I am nowhere near the spend for a Panda. I asked for a few lesser pieces in the previous months to celebrate the wedding and it doesn't look like they'll be able to deliver. Am I totally out of my mind to go gray for a 126500LN? Looks like prices are in the low $30s and just wanted to pick everyones brain on my idea. I certainly have no intention of selling the watch, but having the price tank after purchase isn't a great feeling. Wondering if anyone has any advice or regret on going gray for you grail piece?

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You’re only crazy if you buy something you cannot afford. Many including myself don’t see the value in the current premium over retail, but there a good number that do and are enjoying this time piece with zero regret. Good luck!
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Old 17 September 2024, 09:49 AM   #96
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I honestly think, that with the Daytona, the chances that someone actually gets on at retail are slow low, going grey is worth it (and probably the only option to get it). Therefore, the "market" price for that individual really is the gray price, and retail price isn't really relevant.
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Old 20 September 2024, 01:48 AM   #97
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I've bought all my watches from grey dealers and never had any regrets it's not worth playing the AD games IMO
I agree ...
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Old 20 September 2024, 01:56 AM   #98
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Don't die.

We can see with the replica prices what it costs manufacturer 95% of that watch with less refinements of course.

We can see with the Tudor chronograph what it costs to make a chronograph with margin. We can see with the Tudor pelagos what it costs to make a titanium watch with ceramic bezel.

We already know that the daytona, if using the Tudor pricing scale, should be around $6000 with margin.

It's not just hype. When people are comparing these prices, people are usually comping brand and model value compared to something right above or right below. The daytona comps to something like a stainless Royal Oak when it comes to brand and model cachet. It doesn't comp to a Omega or Breitling chronograph.

Then, now we have too much demand, not enough supply, so ADs and brands can play all kinds of games adding to the cost of the item.



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Old 20 September 2024, 08:22 PM   #99
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nuts 15k you're paying for a watch that was made for 5k when it left the factory.......all hype mass produced with cheap materials ss and brass
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So for those saying they would't pay the gray prices for a new Stainless Daytona, what about a vintage Zenith stainless Daytona? Does that change people's tune? Maybe since it isn't in production anymore?

Again, I'm asking this as someone that has wanted a Daytona for almost 10 years and is between a Zenith and a 116500.
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I don’t think it’s crazy to go grey when you factor in the bundle they want you to buy to get it at retail. If you are buying the other jewelry anyway…great. If not….nope. It’s cheaper to go grey. I like the previous model which can be had for mid 20’s. Congrats on your wedding.
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I'm getting married next month and want to mark the occasion. I'm a good customer at 2 AD's, but am fully aware I am nowhere near the spend for a Panda. I asked for a few lesser pieces in the previous months to celebrate the wedding and it doesn't look like they'll be able to deliver. Am I totally out of my mind to go gray for a 126500LN? Looks like prices are in the low $30s and just wanted to pick everyones brain on my idea. I certainly have no intention of selling the watch, but having the price tank after purchase isn't a great feeling. Wondering if anyone has any advice or regret on going gray for you grail piece?

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I paid grey for an 116500 and have zero regrets. I paid a good bit more than current prices, 0 regrets. I wear it every day


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