Any GMT BlueBerry owners here ?

[scooba]

Oh my ! . I thought this was done to death years ago ,Xeramic over on vintage Rolex forums did a big write up some years ago pointing out how these are all incorrect . I guess some ppl just want to pretend they have something unique and different .

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[springer]

Originally Posted by scooba

Oh my ! . I thought this was done to death years ago ,Xeramic over on vintage Rolex forums did a big write up some years ago pointing out how these are all incorrect . I guess some ppl just want to pretend they have something unique and different .

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Scooba, you are about two months late to the party for this thread!!!!!!!

Let me just say that you lost me with xer's comment. Are you saying because he said they are fake, incorrect or whatever he called them, that this is fact?

I don't care to get involved with this "blueberry" controversy but I do know there are some reputable collectors that believe they are genuine. Only Rolex can solve the mystery of the blueberry insert not speculation by the collecting community or any one individual unless they are privy to inside information from Rolex.

[lee fowler]

Originally Posted by springer

Scooba, you are about two months late to the party for this thread!!!!!!!

Let me just say that you lost me with xer's comment. Are you saying because he said they are fake, incorrect or whatever he called them, that this is fact?

I don't care to get involved with this "blueberry" controversy but I do know there are some reputable collectors that believe they are genuine. Only Rolex can solve the mystery of the blueberry insert not speculation by the collecting community or any one individual unless they are privy to inside information from Rolex.

Well said jP.

[Swearengen]

For the sake of balance I have spoken to some "reputable collectors", dealers and London auction houses who are less than convinced with their authenticity...........so the debate is far from clear. For the record I am not a believer

Originally Posted by springer

Scooba, you are about two months late to the party for this thread!!!!!!!

Let me just say that you lost me with xer's comment. Are you saying because he said they are fake, incorrect or whatever he called them, that this is fact?

I don't care to get involved with this "blueberry" controversy but I do know there are some reputable collectors that believe they are genuine. Only Rolex can solve the mystery of the blueberry insert not speculation by the collecting community or any one individual unless they are privy to inside information from Rolex.

[TuRo]

Blueberry Bezelgate reminds me of Lee Israel's fake letters shenanigans years back (a good film with R.E.Grant btw).
The only ones giving succour to their legitimacy, were the dealers who sold them, and the gullible saps that had bought them........ because, in essence, they had to !

[rootbeer7]

The fonts and the production quality are the giveaways to the non-believers and the incredible sums paid are enough for the believers. I’m erring on the side of the nons!!

[Paulie 50]

Is there no place to hide from these naive people? asking the same question, but sadly, knowing the answer.

[Kingface66]

Simple question: has Rolex EVER produced/published/released an ad/catalogue/report of a GMT with a Blueberry bezel? Without any evidence from Rolex themselves that they produced and sold these, why would anyone believe they’re legit?

[springer]

Originally Posted by Paulie 50

Is there no place to hide from these naive people? asking the same question, but sadly, knowing the answer.

Did I write something that wasn't true? First off, I never said one way or other what they are. Rolex needs to address this.

Below are some comments I made earlier this year:

I have been asked many times about these blueberry inserts beginning almost two decades ago. While my opinion will sometimes be accepted by some, and not by others, it is something that I try and stay clear of these days.

If you have been around vintage for a while, you would have noticed that not everyone agrees on every aspect regarding a particular discussion on whether something is genuine or aftermarket. Usually these discussions can become very heated and argumentative.

The GMT blueberry bezel insert is a perfect example. Many believe it is genuine and there is prima facie evidence that it might very well be genuine. There is also evidence from others on why it is not genuine.

There were also fake versions being sold here (referring to VRF) and elsewhere many years ago so be careful with a potential purchase if you are looking to buy one and share in the belief that they are genuine.

Whether two or three forum members here and others elsewhere believe blueberry inserts are non genuine Rolex, these opinions have not had much influence on those that believe they are genuine Rolex inserts. In the end, one thing for sure is that the GMT blueberry is a controversial subject.

[Paulie 50]

Originally Posted by springer

Did I write something that wasn't true? First off, I never said one way or other what they are. Rolex needs to address this.

Below are some comments I made earlier this year:

I have been asked many times about these blueberry inserts beginning almost two decades ago. While my opinion will sometimes be accepted by some, and not by others, it is something that I try and stay clear of these days.

If you have been around vintage for a while, you would have noticed that not everyone agrees on every aspect regarding a particular discussion on whether something is genuine or aftermarket. Usually these discussions can become very heated and argumentative.

The GMT blueberry bezel insert is a perfect example. Many believe it is genuine and there is prima facie evidence that it might very well be genuine. There is also evidence from others on why it is not genuine.

There were also fake versions being sold here (referring to VRF) and elsewhere many years ago so be careful with a potential purchase if you are looking to buy one and share in the belief that they are genuine.

Whether two or three forum members here and others elsewhere believe blueberry inserts are non genuine Rolex, these opinions have not had much influence on those that believe they are genuine Rolex inserts. In the end, one thing for sure is that the GMT blueberry is a controversial subject.

John! You are the last person I would call naive, I think when it's comes to vintage and especially GMTs, you are up there with the best, so please don't think that ; it's just that like most people, I'm sick of this thread being rehashed so often. Take care.

[suligeo]

Is there a proof of the Rolex DD Stella dials? Advertising, catalogue pic…..

https://www.instagram.com/vintage_georgex/

[inadeje]

This thread is enlightening and epitomizes the reason I enjoy spending time on this forum.

Thanks to all you knowledgeable people who contribute

[Dom9]

Originally Posted by suligeo

Is there a proof of the Rolex DD Stella dials? Advertising, catalogue pic…..

https://www.instagram.com/vintage_georgex/

Interesting!

[lee fowler]

Ok so throwing a curve ball here! What about the Blue 24hr hand?

[dhknola]

I have spent a decade watching this debate and my conclusion is not to buy these for a price above service parts. If they get authenticated, boom, your 'rich' and if they are dogs, you paid as such.

[Dan S]

FWIW, my personal feeling is that Rolex has already pretty much implied that they are not original to the watches, and obviously the lack of concrete evidence of originality is pretty damning. But many rich and powerful people have too much money into them to accept it. As a result, their value will never decrease. So personally, I don't want one, but if you have one, I don't think you're at risk of losing money.

Are they authentic Rolex inserts? Probably.