I have been scammed please HELP

[hojlund]

Originally Posted by Travis29

There’s a lot of TRF accounts that have been hacked acting as someone else.

I’ve personally reached out to multiple batgirl sellers and they were all bogus. Would not provide their id, refused to use escrow, or FaceTime with watch in hand. Gave fake references or IDs. Shit is the wild west in the classifieds section here.

Scammers;
Mike I
Tenementhall

lots of trf accounts were hacked! that's scary, I won't feel comfortable doing watch trade here.

[Mike I]

Originally Posted by Travis29

There’s a lot of TRF accounts that have been hacked acting as someone else.

I’ve personally reached out to multiple batgirl sellers and they were all bogus. Would not provide their id, refused to use escrow, or FaceTime with watch in hand. Gave fake references or IDs. Shit is the wild west in the classifieds section here.

Scammers;
Mike I
Tenementhall

I’m not a scammer. My account was hacked.

[Mountain66]

Sorry to hear this, best of luck trying to resolve.

[ArtNouveau]

There’s a Sticky at the top of this forum entitled Personal Message Scam, I advise you all to read it.
What has happened for years is a TRF member will send you a PM inquiring about a sale, or asking you something about what you’ve posted. The URL to reply looks legit but it requires you to sign in even if you’re already logged in somewhere else. So not really “hacked” but instead giving your login to an imposter who quickly posts sales using your good reputation.
The alleged seller ID can be banned for many infractions but also shut down if a scam has been reported to keep anyone else from becominga victim.

[rolexRV]

The seller answered when I told him we were discussing about it here and we could tag his data.

He states he was banned "for having used such word on a member on the forum, it was a heated conversation".

My red flag was that he was banned but nobody (MODs please) can confirm if this was really the reason or he scammed someone.

It is good that he answered, I would say a scammer would have disappeared. Now he says he would send the watch but I rejected it. As soon nobody knows if this guy scammed someone else I do not feel confident with the trade. He is not part of the forum anymore. I fear to get an empty box.

I told him to wire the funds back asap. He told me he would do it yesterday after work. He did not and today I sent him another email. He told me he had no time and he will do it today.

A TRF membe sent me a PM offering his help to start any legal action. I really appreciate it. If the seller does not wire the fund today I wish he can help me to report a file.

Keep you updated. Thanks for your support

[londondude]

Originally Posted by rolexRV

The seller answered when I told him we were discussing about it here and we could tag his data.

He states he was banned "for having used such word on a member on the forum, it was a heated conversation".

My red flag was that he was banned but nobody (MODs please) can confirm if this was really the reason or he scammed someone.

It is good that he answered, I would say a scammer would have disappeared. Now he says he would send the watch but I rejected it. As soon nobody knows if this guy scammed someone else I do not feel confident with the trade. He is not part of the forum anymore. I fear to get an empty box.

I told him to wire the funds back asap. He told me he would do it yesterday after work. He did not and today I sent him another email. He told me he had no time and he will do it today.

A TRF membe sent me a PM offering his help to start any legal action. I really appreciate it. If the seller does not wire the fund today I wish he can help me to report a file.

Keep you updated. Thanks for your support

This is very positive I think. Hopefully you’ll get your money back!

[teabags001]

Originally Posted by rolexRV

The seller answered when I told him we were discussing about it here and we could tag his data.

He states he was banned "for having used such word on a member on the forum, it was a heated conversation".

My red flag was that he was banned but nobody (MODs please) can confirm if this was really the reason or he scammed someone.

It is good that he answered, I would say a scammer would have disappeared. Now he says he would send the watch but I rejected it. As soon nobody knows if this guy scammed someone else I do not feel confident with the trade. He is not part of the forum anymore. I fear to get an empty box.

I told him to wire the funds back asap. He told me he would do it yesterday after work. He did not and today I sent him another email. He told me he had no time and he will do it today.

A TRF membe sent me a PM offering his help to start any legal action. I really appreciate it. If the seller does not wire the fund today I wish he can help me to report a file.

Keep you updated. Thanks for your support

I’m sorry but that wire isn’t coming. I would have had him send the watch which probably doesn’t exist. But you would have further proof on your end as you could record you opening it from sender. If it’s nothing in there or a fake watch I think there would be additional charges you could possibly bring.


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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by rolexRV

The seller answered when I told him we were discussing about it here and we could tag his data.

He states he was banned "for having used such word on a member on the forum, it was a heated conversation".

My red flag was that he was banned but nobody (MODs please) can confirm if this was really the reason or he scammed someone.

It is good that he answered, I would say a scammer would have disappeared. Now he says he would send the watch but I rejected it. As soon nobody knows if this guy scammed someone else I do not feel confident with the trade. He is not part of the forum anymore. I fear to get an empty box.

I told him to wire the funds back asap. He told me he would do it yesterday after work. He did not and today I sent him another email. He told me he had no time and he will do it today.

A TRF membe sent me a PM offering his help to start any legal action. I really appreciate it. If the seller does not wire the fund today I wish he can help me to report a file.

Keep you updated. Thanks for your support

Please keep us posted

[alphadweller]

Excellent, the seller is replying to your messages. I hope you get your money back soon, OP.

[m j b]

Originally Posted by rolexRV

The seller answered when I told him we were discussing about it here and we could tag his data.

Originally Posted by alphadweller

Excellent, the seller is replying to your messages. I hope you get your money back soon, OP.

Me too, best wishes.

If it does not work out, there are ways to find the miscreant without using local law enforcement (who likely won't be bothered to do anything). It may be throwing good money after bad, but there are options.

I suspect that the most common "scam" on this forum is people who have established feedback getting their accounts highjacked by either not using 2FA or falling victim to a phishing email/PM. Those hijacked accounts are (I suspect) eventually banned to prevent further scamming.

I have bought and sold many watches through this forum and others to (and from) individuals and with proper due diligence, have not had any issues.

[waterman1]

I also think you will get your money back. There would be no reason for him to continue contact with you if his intent was to take your money.

[Tambo19]

This is very sad, i think you should keep contacting him.

[Sublovin]

As an outsider it is easy to judge this, but I’m not sure how him being banned means you got scammed. It seems the transaction was recent and he is communicating with you. This just seems like an odd chain of events. If I paid someone $14,000, I would have exhausted all possibilities with the seller and police before wasting time making vague posts.

[hojlund]

Originally Posted by Sublovin

As an outsider it is easy to judge this, but I’m not sure how him being banned means you got scammed. It seems the transaction was recent and he is communicating with you. This just seems like an odd chain of events. If I paid someone $14,000, I would have exhausted all possibilities with the seller and police before wasting time making vague posts.

you mean OP make up the whole story?

[rolexRV]

Originally Posted by Sublovin

As an outsider it is easy to judge this, but I’m not sure how him being banned means you got scammed. It seems the transaction was recent and he is communicating with you. This just seems like an odd chain of events. If I paid someone $14,000, I would have exhausted all possibilities with the seller and police before wasting time making vague posts.

You transfer This week 14K. The seller does not answer in two days. The information was fluent till last week. You see the guy was banned on 30/12. What would you think?


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[walds11]

Dang OP! I hope you get your money back.

Shouldn’t this thread be in the WatchOut section?

[AlanH]

I belong to a number of forums, but would I buy anything of value from a forum Classifieds section? Never in a million years.

[travisb]

Very sorry OP. I'm hoping the best for you and will be following here.

[time_and_cars]

Originally Posted by rolexRV

Hi,

wired 14K to the seller JeromeL for a Batman. Now I see he has been banned. I am in Spain and he is in the US. I have his email address, but what can I do??

so frustrated...

thanks

Why would you buy a watch from the US if youre located in Europe…. Many sellers and watches over there even in spain …. So you try to save $1k or $2k for this transaction and at the end you lose it all …. Not a good idea my friend …. Sorry to be harsh IMO

[worldofoyster]

hopefully OP gets his money back.

[rolexRV]

The seller did not wir the funds back

I wired 14K to

DAWN HIRSCHY
106 TENIENTE CT
FORT WAYNE, IN 4685

PNC BANK, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION
LOUSIVILLE, KY

jertimepiece@gmail.com

Is there any possibility anyone could helpe me me to file a report in the US. I have an email chain with the wire screenshot, etc

thanks

[m j b]

Originally Posted by rolexRV

The seller did not wir the funds back

I wired 14K to

DAWN HIRSCHY
106 TENIENTE CT
FORT WAYNE, IN 4685

PNC BANK, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION
LOUSIVILLE, KY

Google is your friend.

There is a Dawn Hirschy in Fort Wayne Indiana, but that address is not accurate, that street has numbers that start in the 1000 range, there is no 106.

The bank should have matched the address to the account, and I don't think that would have worked.

[rolexRV]

Originally Posted by m j b

Google is your friend.

There is a Dawn Hirschy in Fort Wayne Indiana, but that address is not accurate, that street has numbers that start in the 1000 range, there is no 106.

The bank should have matched the address to the account, and I don't think that would have worked.

FORT WAYNE 1602 sorry,

called to all tel numbers I saw in Internet pointing out to this name an address.. nothing, the problem is tu file a report ..

[NachoNeal]

Originally Posted by rolexRV

The seller did not wir the funds back

I wired 14K to

DAWN HIRSCHY
106 TENIENTE CT
FORT WAYNE, IN 4685

PNC BANK, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION
LOUSIVILLE, KY

jertimepiece@gmail.com

Is there any possibility anyone could helpe me me to file a report in the US. I have an email chain with the wire screenshot, etc

thanks

Check with seller's local police department to see if they have a financial crimes unit. If so, it would be extremely unlikely that you would need somebody else to assist you in filing a report. Additionally, if you're a US citizen, I might also inquire with DOJ to see if fraud on a US citizen abroad along with an international wire would qualify as a federal crime.

[rolexRV]

Originally Posted by NachoNeal

Check with seller's local police department to see if they have a financial crimes unit. If so, it would be extremely unlikely that you would need somebody else to assist you in filing a report. Additionally, if you're a US citizen, I might also inquire with DOJ to see if fraud on a US citizen abroad along with an international wire would qualify as a federal crime.

The problem is that I come from Spain, and located in Spain.

I did a transfer of 6.100USD and a colleague from me of the US wired 7.100 (As I just sold them a watch I preferred him to wire 7.1K and I do the rest)

I am also in touch with my colleague, as 7.100 were transferred from an US citizen perhaps it helps an he can issue the file

[johnsonsxusfrt]

Originally Posted by rolexRV

The seller did not wir the funds back

I wired 14K to

DAWN HIRSCHY
106 TENIENTE CT
FORT WAYNE, IN 4685

PNC BANK, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION
LOUSIVILLE, KY

jertimepiece@gmail.com

Is there any possibility anyone could helpe me me to file a report in the US. I have an email chain with the wire screenshot, etc

thanks

OP I'm so sorry for your situation, but if any good can come from this then Let's use this as a learning opportunity for everyone: The above is a MASSIVE red flag. Jerome L asked to wire funds to an account in "Dawn Hirschy" name, that is an immediate no-go and a clear sign of a scam using a bank account set up with someone else's stolen identity.

[Bada]

wild

[chet]

Contact Dawn through her employer. A quick google search shows she works at Lancia Homes in Fort Wayne. If this doesn't work, then tell the employer about your experience. They should know what their employees are doing.

ETA: I am sure Jamie Lancia and Jim Lancia would be interested to know their accounts payable employee is scamming people.

[m j b]

Originally Posted by chet

Contact Dawn through her employer. A quick google search shows she works at Lancia Homes in Fort Wayne. If this doesn't work, then tell the employer about your experience. They should know what their employees are doing.

NO. This is very not cool. I would presume that any decent scammer is using someone else's identity, just like they did with the TRF account.

[chet]

Originally Posted by m j b

NO. This is very not cool. I would presume that any decent scammer is using someone else's identity, just like they did with the TRF account.

That's why you start with talking to her--she may be able to shed some light or she may be the actual scammer.