DB openworked new drop

[huncho]

Originally Posted by Reign

They really milked the crap out of the DB. In 2020, we only had like 8 variants across the 41 and 37 sizes.

We must be at like 20+ at this point and really killing a classic with all the variants.


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yeah although to be fair so few people will probably get these it doesn't even matter but it definitely still feels like it's less special now. don't hate the monotone look though, especially the salmon color, and it reminds me of the 15305 now. still probably prefer the old 15407 otherwise though

[HurricaneHarry]

They’re all stunning. I’m excited to see real pictures of the new ceramic and yellow gold.


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[Armis]

Originally Posted by AperolSpritz

+1
And we can't even blame FHB anymore...
I'm really worried about the direction AP is taking

Wasn’t this decision (as well as whatever is coming in the near term) made a number of years in advance under the leadership of FHB?
Regardless, from a design standpoint it is interesting to consider that the contrasting color of one piece compared to previous 15305 is what characterized the piece as amazing in many people’s eyes. However, the 26735st, 16204bc, and others (none of which I could ever be allocated) don’t have this design element but reign supreme. Time (and live pictures) will tell how the new pieces measure up, but it’s possible AP will take heed of our gripes and surprise with a new release in the future.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Armis

Wasn’t this decision (as well as whatever is coming in the near term) made a number of years in advance under the leadership of FHB?
Regardless, from a design standpoint it is interesting to consider that the contrasting color of one piece compared to previous 15305 is what characterized the piece as amazing in many people’s eyes.

Interesting, but true. That's the genius of it.

However, the 26735st, 16204bc, and others (none of which I could ever be allocated) don’t have this design element but reign supreme.

The grey market of course agrees with that statement, but I don't find the openworked jumbos superior. Lack of contrast and the giant barrel bother me. AP text on the crystal doesn't help either.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by AperolSpritz

+1
And we can't even blame FHB anymore...
I'm really worried about the direction AP is taking

Didn't the new CEO only start coming into the office at the end of last year? I'm pretty sure you can still blame FHB for this release, if you're so inclined. I seem to recall the AP operates on a ~5 year product planning schedule, so it'll all be FHBs fault for a while longer

[AperolSpritz]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Didn't the new CEO only start coming into the office at the end of last year? I'm pretty sure you can still blame FHB for this release, if you're so inclined. I seem to recall the AP operates on a ~5 year product planning schedule, so it'll all be FHBs fault for a while longer

Thanks, that's a relief

[conkers]

Having now seen them all in the flesh I would only consider the yellow gold version and feel the original steel and ceramic versions are much nicer in my view than the new ones in those materials. Reason: the gold movements are too uniform (ie monotone) and as a result look “flat” and slightly lack the visual depth of the anthracite versions.

Just my view of course.

[Vince_76]

Live video comparison. Best I’ve seen.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C89au...RlODBiNWFlZA==

[messikens]

Originally Posted by Vince_76

Live video comparison. Best I’ve seen.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C89au...RlODBiNWFlZA==

Very cool comparison vid, thank you.
Not like I'm ever going to be offered one but having seen the videos I prefer the older ones.

The new ones are of course nice but I think the rose gold is way too blingy and screams too much "look I have an AP"!!! Of course I assume for a certain clientele that's part of the appeal.

Nothing stealthy about it at all. Now if rose gold would be switched out with sand gold that may be a different story...

[Vince_76]

Originally Posted by messikens

Very cool comparison vid, thank you.
Not like I'm ever going to be offered one but having seen the videos I prefer the older ones.

The new ones are of course nice but I think the rose gold is way too blingy and screams too much "look I have an AP"!!! Of course I assume for a certain clientele that's part of the appeal.

Nothing stealthy about it at all. Now if rose gold would be switched out with sand gold that may be a different story...

I’m with you on that! I like the relatively lowkey nature and aesthetics of the prior 15407/15416. The new SS is the nicest one IMO but it’s pretty loud for me with all the gold OW components.

[HurricaneHarry]

Originally Posted by Vince_76

Live video comparison. Best I’ve seen.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C89au...RlODBiNWFlZA==

The yellow gold might be my favourite!


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[Napaswar]

It's entertaining for me to see the contrast on Ceramic piece. With limited 150 pcs, they are definitely more difficult to get than the current 15416ce.

[GW44]

Originally Posted by Vince_76

Live video comparison. Best I’ve seen.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C89au...RlODBiNWFlZA==

Shame they were on a 7 year old's wrist

[GW44]

Originally Posted by conkers

Having now seen them all in the flesh I would only consider the yellow gold version and feel the original steel and ceramic versions are much nicer in my view than the new ones in those materials. Reason: the gold movements are too uniform (ie monotone) and as a result look “flat” and slightly lack the visual depth of the anthracite versions.

Just my view of course.

I can see what you mean here Roger, but I'd still love to see both "old" and "new" (together if possible) before deciding.

Will you go for the Yellow Gold one?

[conkers]

Originally Posted by GW44

I can see what you mean here Roger, but I'd still love to see both "old" and "new" (together if possible) before deciding.

Will you go for the Yellow Gold one?

No I won’t Gareth I already have the original steel and the frosted white gold versions so don’t want or need a third. I am not a huge YG fan but of the three new ones it is my preferred model for the aforementioned reason.

[iEric]

Found a nice side by side video of the CE’s…. here’s a screen shot, maybe someone can help me out. It’s the 6th video in his reels. (not my Instagram)

[Armis]

I’m still processing the visual effect of each piece, but it just occurred to me: isn’t the dial of the yellow gold essentially the same as the 15305 openwork?

The hands on the current YG version is brighter, but the remainder is very very close. Again, just going on picture comparisons for now.

[GW44]

Originally Posted by conkers

No I won’t Gareth I already have the original steel and the frosted white gold versions so don’t want or need a third. I am not a huge YG fan but of the three new ones it is my preferred model for the aforementioned reason.

Understood Roger.

Your frosted White gold must be incredible.

[conkers]

Originally Posted by GW44

Understood Roger.

Your frosted White gold must be incredible.

Quite bling! Some photos on my IG. Don’t wear it much.Was a surprise allocation from AP on my birthday in 2019. Good old days!

[Leungjay23]

May I ask whether AP is discontinuing existing 15407OR or it will continue to produce? Thanks

[Gandor]

Originally Posted by Leungjay23

May I ask whether AP is discontinuing existing 15407OR or it will continue to produce? Thanks

This looks like a farewell batch to get rid of the remaining movements. We’ll probably see the new architecture for the 150th.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Leungjay23

May I ask whether AP is discontinuing existing 15407OR or it will continue to produce? Thanks

I was told that the prior models are discontinued.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by iEric

Found a nice side by side video of the CE’s…. here’s a screen shot, maybe someone can help me out. It’s the 6th video in his reels. (not my Instagram)

Totally different watches (or at least as different as they could possibly be with the same case and same basic movement architecture).

[GW44]

Originally Posted by conkers

Quite bling! Some photos on my IG. Don’t wear it much.Was a surprise allocation from AP on my birthday in 2019. Good old days!

Aha, can't beat a surprise allocation like that!!

[Armis]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Totally different watches (or at least as different as they could possibly be with the same case and same basic movement architecture).

It appears that their use of gold does seem to accentuate the overall openworked architecture. Admittedly, in the metal the previous anthracite versions demonstrate the openworkings nicely, so I am curious to see what the gold effect is IRL compared to my impression from pictures.

[PP&AP]

Originally Posted by Gandor

This looks like a farewell batch to get rid of the remaining movements. We’ll probably see the new architecture for the 150th.

This is my expectation as well, though I haven't confirmed it yet

[conkers]

Originally Posted by Armis

It appears that their use of gold does seem to accentuate the overall openworked architecture.

Having seen them I would say the opposite.

[Armis]

Originally Posted by conkers

Having seen them I would say the opposite.

Ugh, that’s sobering to read.

[conkers]

Originally Posted by Armis

Ugh, that’s sobering to read.

Just my view of course…….

[Leungjay23]

Personally I love the bridge in the old model and the overall look is stunning. The new gold dial looks nice but just from the picture there may be not enough of depth and contrast. And that is why I like 15407 more than the 39mm jumbo Openwork.