For $40k - Panda or President?

[garyk]

Originally Posted by NYG1121

The only panda i know currently is the WG daytona. Are we sure OP isn’t referring to the 116519? That would make a lot more sense

Totally agree!

[lovewatches1987]

DayDate without anyyyyyy hesitation!!!!

[t65tampa]

Originally Posted by HL65

Day-Date at MSRP over crazy price for a SS Daytona all day long.

My answer as well.


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[subtona]

Daytona is a fantastic watch. I have owned 4 of them.

Currently have a white dial zenith sold the other 3 after relatively short ownership periods.

Truth is legibility is not great, as a daily watch this has always been a drawback for me.

Day date Is also a timeless classic, in white metal can be a great daily wear.

Value wise day date at MSRP is more sensible... but the Daytona is what it is, though the price is high, it commands a premium and has for decades. Who’s to say where it ends up in the future?

Nothing is perfect (except the sub) buy what you want to see on your wrist and don’t look back.

[Utomow]

Probably DD


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[RealMadrid1988]

Originally Posted by JSolution

They’ve come down very very much recently - black dial especially.

Still it’s not a watch I’d be interested in still at today’s prices.

Yup. Even if OP is dead set on the Daytona and willing to pay multiples of MSRP, I think I would wait a little while. The black dial has definitely dropped in price, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the white dial soon follows. We haven’t yet seen significant price drops from the major greys on the white dial, but I’d bet they’re offering less to sellers than they were just a month or two ago.

Again, there’s no telling where the price will be in 5 months. Maybe it goes way up. But there’s no question it has softened lately.

[ChipotleBanana]

pls dont be the guy who spend $40k on a $13k watch... DD 10000000000%, or a number of Patek/Lange/Breguet references.

[JEdwardK]

between the 2 for $40k, DD all day

and as a bonus
if you buy the Day Date from the AD, you may be offered a Daytona by the same AD at a later time

[Watchdoyouwant?]

No chance I would pay 40K for a SS Daytona.

[MattyL147]

DD without the slightest hesitation.

[Maiden]

Originally Posted by HL65

Day-Date at MSRP over crazy price for a SS Daytona all day long.

^^^^^^^^^
This.

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by Mystro

X100000. Even we long time/hardcore Rolex owners admit the street value of the Rolex watch currently is grossly over priced and not even close to its worth. In Rolex land, always let msrp guide it’s true value/worth. The newbies are trying to infer their vapid value system in a hobby they just discovered. Grey market figured these new rubes out 4 years ago and are exploding their inexperience. Historically, paying way over msrp for some is still a rather new trend in the grand scheme of the Rolex brand.

Spot on in all regards, and especially the part about MSRP. That's what Rolex themselves say their watches are worth, so to pay 3 times the MSRP for a Daytona is sheer unadulterated lunacy.

I've been into this whole watch thing for 30 odd years, and I've seen how fickle the market can be at times. This is a hobby, nothing more, nothing less. No-one's life is going to be immeasurably improved by owning a Daytona (or any other watch for that matter), so unless $40k is nothing but chump-change to you, don't waste it lining some speculative grey's pocket. Buy the DD for MSRP and never look back.

[KeithP]

DD no question but try finding one of those at an AD, let alone the exact combo you’d want.

[rcambrid]

You should get a Sub and a real panda…

[smithsj716]

DD41 all day every day. I’m sure it doesn’t hurt your chances of getting a SS Daytona down the line either


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[stubim]

https://www.rolex.com/watches/day-da...8239-0007.html

Everytime!!!

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by Mystro

X100000. Even we long time/hardcore Rolex owners admit the street value of the Rolex watch currently is grossly over priced and not even close to its worth. In Rolex land, always let msrp guide it’s true value/worth. The newbies are trying to infer their vapid value system in a hobby they just discovered. Grey market figured these new rubes out 4 years ago and are exploding their inexperience. Historically, paying way over msrp for some is still a rather new trend in the grand scheme of the Rolex brand.

I agree.

Sadly there is a member who I shall not name who keeps defending the current prices and who says the watches are worth what the market can bear.

It's crazy how people are brainwashed. Same with the new OPs, it's truly a 5k watch, don't even think it's a 10k watch.

[liberalclown]

Gold Daytona > DD > Oyster-flex Daytona > SS Daytona at $40k mark

[Robf52]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

I agree.

Sadly there is a member who I shall not name who keeps defending the current prices and who says the watches are worth what the market can bear.

It's crazy how people are brainwashed. Same with the new OPs, it's truly a 5k watch, don't even think it's a 10k watch.

So you're saying secondary market pricing is wrong. How do you determine that? I agree the market is high, but cannot agree it's wrong. Pricing is determined by whatever a willing buyer and seller agree upon. You may not like it or may think the pricing is high, but you cannot say the market is wrong. If someone willingly pays $30k for a $10k watch, you might think they're crazy, but that transaction (and others) helps set the free market price.

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by Robf52

So you're saying secondary market pricing is wrong. How do you determine that? I agree the market is high, but cannot agree it's wrong. Pricing is determined by whatever a willing buyer and seller agree upon. You may not like it or may think the pricing is high, but you cannot say the market is wrong. If someone willingly pays $30k for a $10k watch, you might think they're crazy, but that transaction (and others) helps set the free market price.

That's not what I wrote.

Secondary market pricing is what it is, that's what little inventory and a lot of demand and speculation does.

The OPs which I bought for 5.3k aren't worth the 10-11k per piece they are going for on the used market. It's as simple as that. It's a decent watch but it's not 10-11k quality. I don't understand how anyone would be willing to pay those amounts for those watches.

[MRJOHAL]

DD all day long

[RealMadrid1988]

Originally Posted by Robf52

So you're saying secondary market pricing is wrong. How do you determine that? I agree the market is high, but cannot agree it's wrong. Pricing is determined by whatever a willing buyer and seller agree upon. You may not like it or may think the pricing is high, but you cannot say the market is wrong. If someone willingly pays $30k for a $10k watch, you might think they're crazy, but that transaction (and others) helps set the free market price.

I agree with this in theory. The real question is: are there buyers at $40k? If there were, I would think the price would continue to climb. It hasn’t.

[Xerxes77]

Originally Posted by HL65

Day-Date at MSRP over crazy price for a SS Daytona all day long.

Correct answer…

[DaneMand]

Don’t ever pay $40k for a $13k watch. Daydate is leap and bounds above any SS Daytona. I own both and it’s no comparison


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[Arlchrono]

Originally Posted by Brew

My money or yours?

LOL!
Nice question, obviously the thread stated that a panda Daytona doesn't worth $40k.

[lunarncheng]

Thank you all for the kind advice! I have picked a DayDate 36 128235 in ombre chocolate dial with diamond markers. Pics to come!

[Boaters]

Well it wouldn't be SS at these inflated prices.

[VacherObsessive]

Value is in the DD but investment potential even at $40k is still in the daytona.

I’d get the DD 100% and enjoy it immensely

[johnorpheus]

Dd

[chickennho]

Day Date 100%