Has the CODE been slept on long enough by enthusiasts?

[nazarian]

41mm code sizes wayy too big. 38mm is perfect

[gretch6364]

Originally Posted by Fla Gert

There is not much potential on the code. The case is cool but wears too large. The watch is all dial so it will always wear bigger and thicker than its dimensions suggest. It’s the opposite of being ergonomic. It’s supposed to be a dress watch yet has no dress watch properties. Neither does it have a sports watch properties. It’s in no mans land with no clear identity. Dare i say the Millenary at least had some identity.

And yes, i do own one myself.

Interesting observation. I guess it all depends on wrist size. When I try them on, I think it wears small and is super comfortable.

[boa2]

Originally Posted by gretch6364

Interesting observation. I guess it all depends on wrist size. When I try them on, I think it wears small and is super comfortable.

Same. Even the 41mm looked and felt smaller than I expected, and perfect.

[Palex]

On a 16,75cm wrist. Not too large I guess

[Fla Gert]

Originally Posted by Palex

On a 16,75cm wrist. Not too large I guess

This is the best one of the bunch, because of the dial. The inner starwheel ring makes the face appear smaller. Yet, when you look at it from the side, still looks and wears like a puck. its the thickest 10mm watch i have. Wears thicker that super case Rolex'.

[edo]

Originally Posted by Fla Gert

This is the best one of the bunch, because of the dial. The inner starwheel ring makes the face appear smaller. Yet, when you look at it from the side, still looks and wears like a puck. its the thickest 10mm watch i have. Wears thicker that super case Rolex'.

Ergonomy wise AP product department is not the best one. They needed years and years to made Concept from awful to OK level, the Code is not right from the start, they made a good but still not great thing with the 43 ROO...

[Audevache]

Originally Posted by edo

Ergonomy wise AP product department is not the best one. They needed years and years to made Concept from awful to OK level, the Code is not right from the start, they made a good but still not great thing with the 43 ROO...

I don’t see a problem with the ergonomc factors. I actually find my Code Chrono to be one of the most comfortable watches I own. And I don’t see the thickness as an issue here, it easily slides under a cuff.

You can argue around aesthetics, I personally agree that the large 41mm case needs some action on the dial beyond the 3 hands, that’s why I opted for the chronograph.

[crispyness87]

Originally Posted by Palex

On a 16,75cm wrist. Not too large I guess

Sir. You have a good looking wrist.

[Palex]

Originally Posted by crispyness87

Sir. You have a good looking wrist.

You should see my ankles!😁

[7sins]

Got to say, these are getting pretty attractive in the low 50s, half off MSRP now... I am sure I am the odd one out but I would take this over the Starwheel, with money to save too.

[APhound]

Originally Posted by 7sins

Got to say, these are getting pretty attractive in the low 50s, half off MSRP now... I am sure I am the odd one out but I would take this over the Starwheel, with money to save too.

Agree.. been looking at these myself


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[Dhubby]

Anyone know if the WG Code QP is less produced or something? Always see the RG version in Moda but haven't seen a WG one.

[Palex]

Originally Posted by 7sins

Got to say, these are getting pretty attractive in the low 50s, half off MSRP now... I am sure I am the odd one out but I would take this over the Starwheel, with money to save too.

No full set for these amounts would be a no-go for me..

[salnuaimi]

Originally Posted by Palex

No full set for these amounts would be a no-go for me..

box sold separately to reduce losses and no cards to avoid getting blocked

[Reign]

Originally Posted by salnuaimi

box sold separately to reduce losses and no cards to avoid getting blocked

I’d take it into AP for a strap change to get the seller nuked. Hilarious that they think no card means they’re free


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[salnuaimi]

Originally Posted by Reign

I’d take it into AP for a strap change to get the seller nuked. Hilarious that they think no card means they’re free


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And they take 10-20k loss for card not being there


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[messikens]

I would mind adding one of these for what are starting to go for.

Pricing on these MSRP is really chonky - like $109k pre-tax for a rubber strap Code QP?! That's a solid $40k bath as soon as you walk out the door...

[In-N-Out]

QP prices for both code and RO are too high imo. Prices increases for QP in the last 5+ years are unreasonable.

[7sins]

Originally Posted by Reign

I’d take it into AP for a strap change to get the seller nuked. Hilarious that they think no card means they’re free


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My understanding, and someone correct me if I am wrong, without the warranty card you can't re-register the watch under your own name. This is the system AP looks at if you flipped a watch, not if you bring it in for a strap or even repair. This is what my SA told me a year or two ago, perhaps things have changed.

[lucasalce]

I cannot confirm if you need the card to register but on AP's website, you require the warranty number to register.
There is a change you could as AP house to register the serial number under your name.

[rapide66]

Originally Posted by nazarian

41mm code sizes wayy too big. 38mm is perfect

The new 38mm rose gold in blue looks quite compelling. Not sure if they are marketing it as a unisex size or strictly for ladies.

[Mk2rick]

Originally Posted by salnuaimi

box sold separately to reduce losses and no cards to avoid getting blocked

hahah this cracked me up.

If i ever buy an AP from the grey market, the first thing i'll do is go to my local AD and make sure that I tell the management that I bought this off the grey market flipper and not me.

[John Doyle]

Originally Posted by Gandor

I am amazed how much the CODEs are being slept on from the enthusiast community. The watch is too complex for mainstream appeal at this time, and that's OK, it's really not for them. From an enthusiasts perspective the CODE is a masterclass in design that innovates on every front.

For almost all of horological history watch design is concerned with the planar 2D perspective of the watch. The CODE is a 4D design requiring a dynamic view of the watch from sweeping angles to really appreciate. The case is finished to an amazingly high level, especially in references that incorporate ceramic elements. The mix of finishing techniques across multiple materials and angles is just breathtaking. It's truly an inversion of the Royal Oak's design language. While the Royal Oak leads with brutal design elements that melt into elegance, the CODE takes the opposite approach leading with a simple elegant framework that unravels to aggressive industrial design.

In short the code is a chaotic symphony that requires nuance to understand and nuance takes time. I hope more enthusiasts take the time to learn and experience a CODE because it really is one great watch.

P.S. I bought my code AFTER being allocated a royal oak ;)

I don't agree, it looks like a Michael Kors watch from afar. If you like this type of mall watch designs then sure happy you like it!

From my perspective i was expecting a flop till eternity, no matter what complication they try to throw in it. Heck even the name is poorly chosen closely followed by Cubitus.

[Audevache]

Originally Posted by John Doyle

I don't agree, it looks like a Michael Kors watch from afar. If you like this type of mall watch designs then sure happy you like it!

From my perspective i was expecting a flop till eternity, no matter what complication they try to throw in it. Heck even the name is poorly chosen closely followed by Cubitus.

Just curious, whenever I read this kind of "mall watch" comment somewhere, I basically assume that they haven't seen the watch in the flesh, particularly with the new 2023+ dial layouts. I assume you have though? Not arguing, taste is obviously totally subjective.

That said, as a proud owner of a Code that gets way more wrist time than my 16202, I totally agree that the name is totally cringe...

[John Doyle]

To be honest i have only handled the early plain version, the chronograph version, and the aventurine dial one - it very well may be that the newer iterations could radically change my perception of the line but i have been turned off big time by AP recently so I haven't been in a boutique / tried any of their watches for the past 2 years.

[Audevache]

Originally Posted by John Doyle

To be honest i have only handled the early plain version, the chronograph version, and the aventurine dial one - it very well may be that the newer iterations could radically change my perception of the line but i have been turned off big time by AP recently so I haven't been in a boutique / tried any of their watches for the past 2 years.

I never liked the old dial layouts, but the aventurine one is already a step up, so if you don’t like that one no need to run back to the boutique that quickly.

That said, I personally think the new stamped dials are a major step up, the large nearly bezel-free dial was just too empty before and the numbers on the dial didn’t work.

[Palex]

Originally Posted by John Doyle

I don't agree, it looks like a Michael Kors watch from afar. If you like this type of mall watch designs then sure happy you like it!

From my perspective i was expecting a flop till eternity, no matter what complication they try to throw in it. Heck even the name is poorly chosen closely followed by Cubitus.

Saying it looks like a MK-watch says something about your ability to appreciate good and modern design.

[Mk2rick]

Originally Posted by John Doyle

I don't agree, it looks like a Michael Kors watch from afar. If you like this type of mall watch designs then sure happy you like it!

From my perspective i was expecting a flop till eternity, no matter what complication they try to throw in it. Heck even the name is poorly chosen closely followed by Cubitus.

Totally agree on the name part. I was drinking a cup of coffee when the AP SA was telling me what Code 11:59 meant, i almost spit my coffee out at him. Good heavens I almost burst out laughing at the explanation.

[gretch6364]

At least it’s not a cubitus….man that is an ugly watch.

[Gandor]

Originally Posted by gretch6364

At least it’s not a cubitus….man that is an ugly watch.

I don't think there's ever been a better comparison of how to do modern design correctly and how to do it wrong. How patek spent 25 years working on a new line and arrive at a square nautilus with a recycled movement, recycled bracelet, and recycled dial is beyond me. Papa stern would be ashamed to see where the company is heading.