Oyster Perpetual is the new Submariner

[Ny325]

Not a fan of any of them.

[sleepydoc]

Originally Posted by thenewrick

It’s not German silver just the color looks like German silver. German silver isn’t even a technical thing it’s just a common alloy in German watchmaking that is in between silver and gold in coloration.

I forget what Rolex calls the OP41 silver dial color. It’s like sunburst sun ray or something. It might be the same as on some Daytonas but I’m not sure. It’s not the same silver as on the Datejust though it has some yellow to it. It just looks like German silver to me.

I think it’s a brass base with paint then lacquer. I think it might be electronically painted these days too so it could be like the same paint as champagne and just much less of it.

Willy Wonkas secret recipes no doubt.

Have you seen the silver sunray dials on the silver DJ and OP side by side?

[Onikage]

The tiffany one is the only one I wouldn't wear. These would be the absolute dogs of the lineup a few years ago. We all know it. They're probably a hit in a woke office environment. And the pink one I wouldn't wear. Definitely not Mr. Pink.

[thenewrick]

Originally Posted by sleepydoc

Have you seen the silver sunray dials on the silver DJ and OP side by side?

No I’d like to know if they’re different. I feel like some time ago Rolex called the silver dial something else. I tried to find it on their website and it just says silver now. I could have sworn they called it sun dust or sun burst or something in their description.

[lifebreath]

No. It’s not, and it will never be.

[CanadaDan]

I think the Op is most versatile, most definitely! Imho. Wont ever be the sub or replace it though.
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[jmeds75]

Different strokes for different folks - Rolex seems to have cast a wider net with these new OPs - I think Rolex probably couldn’t be happier with the hype on their base watch.

[rolexpatek363]

OP is more appealing to me than the other sport Rolexes simply because of the elegant slim lugs and generally understated looks. I have the 114300, and it's a firm favourite.

[Chester01]

This is an old thread, and I don’t think I saw it last year. But just lol. The sub is an icon full stop. Worn by people doing history, world leaders, divers, and in combat. The only other Rolex that really has the same heritage is the gmt.

These are fashion watches.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by thenewrick

It’s not German silver just the color looks like German silver. German silver isn’t even a technical thing it’s just a common alloy in German watchmaking that is in between silver and gold in coloration.

I forget what Rolex calls the OP41 silver dial color. It’s like sunburst sun ray or something. It might be the same as on some Daytonas but I’m not sure. It’s not the same silver as on the Datejust though it has some yellow to it. It just looks like German silver to me.

I think it’s a brass base with paint then lacquer. I think it might be electronically painted these days too so it could be like the same paint as champagne and just much less of it.

Willy Wonkas secret recipes no doubt.

Originally Posted by sleepydoc

Have you seen the silver sunray dials on the silver DJ and OP side by side?

OP and DJ silver dials are the same silver as far as I can tell. What gives the OP dial that champagne-like hue is the reflection of the YG hour markers and hands on that silver. Changes a lot depending on the light and looks beautiful, IMO. Fairly unique in the lineup, at least among steel watches.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by Chester01

This is an old thread, and I don’t think I saw it last year. But just lol. The sub is an icon full stop. Worn by people doing history, world leaders, divers, and in combat. The only other Rolex that really has the same heritage is the gmt.

These are fashion watches.

Wasn't it an OP that first swam the English Channel?

[Chester01]

Originally Posted by dannyp

Wasn't it an OP that first swam the English Channel?

Yes, and each model can claim some feet here and there same as any other watch company. The OP was worn in a staged publicity event and got no deeper than a couple of feet. Yes the channel was deep but she got no deeper than a bathtub.

Sit down and really consider the tool watch heritage of the sub, and you let me know how it stacks up.


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[dannyp]

Originally Posted by Chester01

Yes, and each model can claim some feet here and there same as any other watch company. The OP was worn in a staged publicity event and got no deeper than a couple of feet. Yes the channel was deep but she got no deeper than a bathtub.

Sit down and really consider the tool watch heritage of the sub, and you let me know how it stacks up.


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But consider how few watches could even be submerged in a bathtub at the time of that swim.

Had Rolex not first engineered a watertight case, it never would have progressed to one that could withstand the pressure of 300m.

[Chester01]

Originally Posted by dannyp

But consider how few watches could even be submerged in a bathtub at the time of that swim.

Had Rolex not first engineered a watertight case, it never would have progressed to one that could withstand the pressure of 300m.

Listen, I’m not saying that was not a breakthrough at the time and indeed it was. The oyster case the precursor to the sub.

But the sub was worn by the navy (US and British) Jacques Cousteau, yachting teams, ranulph fiennes, etc) etc. the sub broke ground as a dive watch, but what I’m talking about it’s it’s use in people doing history wearing the watch as a tool day to day.

But let’s look at these releases. I mean an array of watches released in every color possible. Great for coordinating outfits but it’s not a sub.


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[JRell]

Come on this was an old post when the new OPs came out regarding popularity. Obviously there is no comparison on design, finish, long term legacy, etc.

[rolexpatek363]

Originally Posted by Chester01

This is an old thread, and I don’t think I saw it last year. But just lol. The sub is an icon full stop. Worn by people doing history, world leaders, divers, and in combat. The only other Rolex that really has the same heritage is the gmt.

These are fashion watches.

The Oyster Perpetual is the quintessential sport/professional Rolex. All the other Rolex sport watches are variants of the OP, this is why the first two words beneath ROLEX on the dials of Subs, GMTs, Daytonas, etc. are "Oyster Perpetual".

Rolex don't make "fashion watches".

[Chester01]

Originally Posted by rolexpatek363

The Oyster Perpetual is the quintessential sport/professional Rolex. All the other Rolex sport watches are variants of the OP, this is why the first two words beneath ROLEX on the dials of Subs, GMTs, Daytonas, etc. are "Oyster Perpetual".

Rolex don't make "fashion watches".

Really, what color does the OP not come in?

The OP was the precursor yes, it’s not a sub or gmt and was not relied upon in combat and by the folks I mentioned as it lacked the functionality. If it was, Cousteau would have worn the OP-he didn’t.


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[rolexpatek363]

Originally Posted by JRell

Come on this was an old post when the new OPs came out regarding popularity. Obviously there is no comparison on design, finish, long term legacy, etc.

FWIW, I have two different Subs, one is a 5513, the other a 16610. My OP is equivalent, or arguably better than both in terms of design and finish. As for "long term legacy" (whatever that means) the OP is the granddaddy of the others.

[rolexpatek363]

Originally Posted by Chester01

Really, what color does the OP not come in?

The OP was the precursor yes, it’s not a sub or gmt and was not relied upon in combat and by the folks I mentioned as it lacked the functionality. If it was, Cousteau would have worn the OP-he didn’t.

So what? A very famous female free-diver used a Datejust for her dives.

What's wrong with offering different colour dials? Look at the DD, SkyDweller, and DJ for different dials. Daytonas are black or white. Are these fashion watches?

[OYptL]

Sub ND gets my vote over all of them(Sub date included). For me it’s just not even close.

[rolexpatek363]

Originally Posted by rolexpatek363

So what? A very famous female free-diver used a Datejust for her dives.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/di...spatches-rolex

[Chester01]

Originally Posted by rolexpatek363

So what? A very famous female free-diver used a Datejust for her dives.

What's wrong with offering different colour dials? Look at the DD, SkyDweller, and DJ for different dials. Daytonas are black or white. Are these fashion watches?

Today, yea. The reality is the 5 digits marked the end of the tool watch era. Using cereal bowl “technology” on bezels means they are all fashion watches at this point.

But I’m not discounting that some famous people wore the OP. There was a reason why is was not issued to the military. It’s not the sub.


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[rolexpatek363]

Originally Posted by Chester01

Today, yea. The reality is the 5 digits marked the end of the tool watch era. Using cereal bowl “technology” on bezels means they are all fashion watches at this point.

But I’m not discounting that some famous people wore the OP. There was a reason why is was not issued to the military. It’s not the sub.

I think you're talking absolute nonsense, and I own the exact model (5513) which was modified to produce the MilSub.

Subs ceased to be "tool watches" with the advent of the dive computer in 1983, and 300m WR is overkill as very few humans have ever been to that depth. The vast majority of dives are <30m, and most are <10m.

[Chester01]

Originally Posted by rolexpatek363

I think you're talking absolute nonsense, and I own the exact model (5513) which was modified to produce the MilSub.

Subs ceased to be "tool watches" with the advent of the dive computer in 1983, and 300m WR is overkill as very few humans have ever been to that depth. The vast majority of dives are &lt;30m, and most are &lt;10m.

Lol. Just lol. Most wore watches on a regular basis until about 2000. Most jobs did not involve any kind of regular interaction with computers until the 1990’s and can recall getting my first one back in college in the mid 1990’s. I mean yea, I had a commodore in like 1985 that was a glorified calculator.

Rolex began getting more expensive with the 5 digits, but watches were well relied upon and indeed there are 5 digit comex subs, so yea no computers underwater.


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[rolexjackson]

Originally Posted by Malum

Look like the swatch I bought for my daughter when she was 6 .

Frankly I’d rather have a Swatch than one of these


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[Watch Rob]

My OP34 is the new Submariner? Fantastic!

[Vetracer]

It’s funny reading how much hate the OP41 bright coloured dials are getting. It reminds me of the hate I read for the 116610LV a.k.a “Hulk” in 2014 when I bought mine.

[JRell]

Originally Posted by rolexpatek363

FWIW, I have two different Subs, one is a 5513, the other a 16610. My OP is equivalent, or arguably better than both in terms of design and finish. As for "long term legacy" (whatever that means) the OP is the granddaddy of the others.

You know what that means - OP is in a lesser class, both functionally and historically. I don’t know what else to say, it is what it is. Check out Hazif - the finish is not on par with better rolex models. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hsPZURSJEDQ

[rolexpatek363]

Originally Posted by Chester01

Lol. Just lol. Most wore watches on a regular basis until about 2000. Most jobs did not involve any kind of regular interaction with computers until the 1990’s and can recall getting my first one back in college in the mid 1990’s. I mean yea, I had a commodore in like 1985 that was a glorified calculator.

Rolex began getting more expensive with the 5 digits, but watches were well relied upon and indeed there are 5 digit comex subs, so yea no computers underwater.

I suggest you find out what a dive computer is.

[rolexpatek363]

Originally Posted by JRell

You know what that means - OP is in a lesser class, both functionally and historically. I don’t know what else to say, it is what it is. Check out Hazif - the finish is not on par with better rolex models. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hsPZURSJEDQ

Wow. "A lesser class". Snobbish negativity.

The OP is the watch which Rolex claim went up Everest with Hillary's 1953 expedition. But it's not good enough for some people!

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/fo...e-pics-details