32xx movement problem poll and data thread

[amanbra]

Okay my 126200 which I have had many issues first purchased sept 2019. Same process wait 24 hours measure then full wind and wait 15 mins and measure. Note this watch hits 280s immediately after full wind.

It’s running about 2.5s on the wrist and love it’s current settings. When new and after first warranty it was doing 0 on the wrist.




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[saxo3]

Originally Posted by amanbra

Okay my 126200 which I have had many issues first purchased sept 2019. Same process wait 24 hours measure then full wind and wait 15 mins and measure. Note this watch hits 280s immediately after full wind.

If I understand you correctly, you do the following:

(1) Full winding #1, then no measurement.
(2) Wait 24 hours, then measure 5 positions.
(3) Full winding #2, wait 15 min, then measure 5 positions

Why do you use this sequence? It needs two full caliber windings.

Is your watch all time (24 hours) at rest after the first winding?
How long is your stabilisation time after each position change?
How long is your measurement time in each position?

Would be good to add X and D to your table.

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by saxo3

If I understand you correctly, you do the following:

(1) Full winding #1, then no measurement.
(2) Wait 24 hours, then measure 5 positions.
(3) Full winding #2, wait 15 min, then measure 5 positions

Why do you use this sequence? It needs two full caliber windings.

Is your watch all time (24 hours) at rest after the first winding?
How long is your stabilisation time after each position change?
How long is your measurement time in each position?

Would be good to add X and D to your table.

For efficiency, I can do the watch in one session.

30 seconds stabilisation. 30 seconds measure.

I don’t know what you mean by X and D.


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[saxo3]

Originally Posted by amanbra

For efficiency, I can do the watch in one session.

30 seconds stabilisation. 30 seconds measure.

I don’t know what you mean by X and D.

X: mean value
D: difference between the largest and smallest value

Example

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by saxo3

X: mean value
D: difference between the largest and smallest value

See example below

Yeah okay next time.

I won’t be doing this for awhile again but must say it has been very interesting. I assumed they all behaved the same position wise and all you needed to see was du to know what the watch is doing.

In saying that for the issue we’re detecting I think it does get pretty obvious just seeing du.

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[saxo3]

So far you contributed with 138 individual posts (rank 3) in this thread. You made good progress

[Raymondlim]

Hi to all gurus. Recently just bought a 126610LN. Have placed it in a winder where the watch is facing you when u look at the winder. Winder is a standing type. So for 24hrs, by using eyes to see, I noticed a -1 s/d. I have tested it for 2 days. Still monitoring. Should be alright ? But I have to give a thumbs up for 3135 movement. I have it on the winder too for 1 week. The accuracy is as good as -0 s/d using eyes. Just want to share my experience. :)

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by Raymondlim

Hi to all gurus. Recently just bought a 126610LN. Have placed it in a winder where the watch is facing you when u look at the winder. Winder is a standing type. So for 24hrs, by using eyes to see, I noticed a -1 s/d. I have tested it for 2 days. Still monitoring. Should be alright ? But I have to give a thumbs up for 3135 movement. I have it on the winder too for 1 week. The accuracy is as good as -0 s/d using eyes. Just want to share my experience. :)

Welcome. It's not clear to me what your 126610LN position in your winder is.

Is it dial up, dial down, 3 up, 6up, 9up, 12up? Or does the movement orientation depend on the winder rotation?

I also don't see what you learn from this test.

[JoseR]

[GMT Aviator]

Originally Posted by Raymondlim

Hi to all gurus. Recently just bought a 126610LN. Have placed it in a winder where the watch is facing you when u look at the winder. Winder is a standing type. So for 24hrs, by using eyes to see, I noticed a -1 s/d. I have tested it for 2 days. Still monitoring. Should be alright ? But I have to give a thumbs up for 3135 movement. I have it on the winder too for 1 week. The accuracy is as good as -0 s/d using eyes. Just want to share my experience. :)

That’s great but if you want one piece of advise, get it off that winder. You’re just wearing it out faster.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by JoseR

Out of your total 7 posts in this thread you already had some better ones (with content)

[JoseR]

I was bored. Happy New Year..

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by JoseR

I was bored. Happy New Year..

Totally acceptable ;-)
Happy New Year Jose.
If you have some interesting data or news about your DJ41, you are very welcome to join here again

[vesnyder]

I brought mine into my AD and they are sending back to Rolex. I sure hope it is fixed with no long term issues. Do not expect to see it for 8-10 weeks.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by saxo3

Totally acceptable ;-)
Happy New Year Jose.
If you have some interesting data or news about your DJ41, you are very welcome to join here again

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by vesnyder

Saxo - Thanks for the analysis. The time of power reserve is an estimate - once it loses power, I will go back and recalculate based on 70 hour power reserve.

Vance, what was the PR?
Did the AD measure your watch with a timegrapher (as a quick analysis) or did you receive any other useful information?

[vesnyder]

Vance, what was the PR?
Did the AD measure your watch with a timegrapher (as a quick analysis) or did you receive any other useful information?

I dropped the watch off the week after Christmas and ended up with one of the "second stringers" as a rep. The first SA I spoke to there said "it probably just needs a new battery"?? They were not going to test it until I said that I spoke to the owner and he said he would test it. I saw the watchmaker put it on the timegrapher but got no information. The SA I had was not of the regualrs and she just wanted to get me out of the store!

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by vesnyder

I dropped the watch off the week after Christmas and ended up with one of the "second stringers" as a rep. The first SA I spoke to there said "it probably just needs a new battery"?? They were not going to test it until I said that I spoke to the owner and he said he would test it. I saw the watchmaker put it on the timegrapher but got no information. The SA I had was not of the regualrs and she just wanted to get me out of the store!

... or the usefulness to own a 200 $ timegrapher? Compare that with the price of your 126711CHNR. You would have been able to measure your 3285 before/after repair.

[stevecv]

Explorer 124270; 2 months, worn daily, dial up at night

[illiguy]

So, are the newer 12 series (i.e, late 2021 and beyond) free of these supposed issues?

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by stevecv

Explorer 124270; 2 months, worn daily, dial up at night

So far we have little data in this thread for the 3230 caliber. Your WatchTracker record looks very consistent over 2 months. I would try other rest positions overnight.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by illiguy

So, are the newer 12 series (i.e, late 2021 and beyond) free of these supposed issues?

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by illiguy

So, are the newer 12 series (i.e, late 2021 and beyond) free of these supposed issues?

As the issues generally show up after a year we don’t know yet. I have a 3230 that will hit the one year mark soon. Let see how it goes. The issue with it though is it went in for warranty on a non amplitude related issue it when I got the watch back what started it’s life as a +2 per day returned as a +6. It was a Feb purchase but got it back May? Not sure how to treat it.


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[JMGoodnight369]

I just picked up a 124060 from the AD last week. Seems to be around -1 a day resting dial up. Since there’s not much data here for the 3230 caliber I’ll do some experiments with resting positions and post what I find. I don’t have a timegrapher but I do use a watch tracking app so I’ll post that info in a few days.

[Feb_29]

No issue for my new 126610LV. I have it for 40 days -0.02sec/day. I can prob regulate it by laying down flat for a couple of day.

[Chocodove]

124060 (3230) purchased new October 2020. Don’t have amplitude, but many timing run results below. If I’m not wearing it, it’s resting dial up. The timing runs that are slower are periods where I have worn it more. I find that it slows down the more fully wound it is. For example, anything around - 2spd was when I’ve worn it for several days in a row, including to sleep.

[amanbra]

My October sub just did this. I’m super concerned. If this 2021 sub shows issues I’m out until 33xx turns up. If this one goes bad I’m 3 from 7.





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[saxo3]

Originally Posted by Chocodove

124060 (3230) purchased new October 2020. Don’t have amplitude, but many timing run results below. If I’m not wearing it, it’s resting dial up. The timing runs that are slower are periods where I have worn it more. I find that it slows down the more fully wound it is. For example, anything around - 2spd was when I’ve worn it for several days in a row, including to sleep.

PLEASE don't post lists of numbers from your smartphone app. It is barely understandable w/o knowing much more details. Anyhow, none of your listed timing runs shows a timekeeping issue IMHO.

Originally Posted by amanbra

My October sub just did this. I’m super concerned. If this 2021 sub shows issues I’m out until 33xx turns up. If this one goes bad I’m 3 from 7.

October 2021, wow!
Your data don't (yet) indicate any issue IMHO, but I see the trend.
You own seven 32xx watches?

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by saxo3

wow! But your data don't (yet) indicate any issue IMHO.
You own seven 32xx watches?

I’m monitoring but this is how my dj and ym began to show their issues at the start. No wearing pattern change but timings start to dip… for the sake of everyone I really hope 2021 watches don’t have these issues but if they do I’m out. Daytona or nothing.

Sorry 6 at one point.

Dj 36 YM40 (sold because of issues) 2019

2021
Exp1 op36 dd40 tt sub





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[saxo3]

Originally Posted by amanbra

I’m monitoring but this is how my dj and ym began to show their issues at the start. No wearing pattern change but timings start to dip… for the sake of everyone I really hope 2021 watches don’t have these issues but if they do I’m out. Daytona or nothing.

The purchase dates (2021) of your watches do NOT indicate the fabrication date of your 32xx movements!