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29 April 2024, 10:50 AM | #211 | |
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30 April 2024, 06:40 AM | #212 |
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30 April 2024, 03:26 PM | #213 | |
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Yeah to your point it wears like 40. Definitely not oversized. The watch is also so supple and light that you forget it’s on the wrist. Very comfortable. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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2 May 2024, 06:42 AM | #214 |
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4 May 2024, 12:40 PM | #215 |
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The new 39mm pair of Tourbillon Atelier by Remy Cools is utterly irresistible. Slimmer too at 12mm.
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5 May 2024, 12:41 AM | #216 |
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21 June 2024, 02:21 PM | #217 |
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been eyeing Konstantin Chaykin watches forever, finally took the plunge --couldn't pass up a watch that brings my nephews so much joy
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10 July 2024, 12:12 AM | #218 | |
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10 July 2024, 01:27 AM | #219 |
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Wow wow wow! Major congrats, nice design YOU spec'ed too
With so many others whining about ADs and ____, when for a very reasonable ask you can spec / design your own custom build from Laine and enjoy.
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10 July 2024, 02:26 AM | #220 |
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YES. Instead of waiting/whining, I have just moved to more interesting watches. It was fun to come to this design and I have others in mind for future acquisitions. This one is the V38 with the very cool micro rotor. I am still tempted to get the GG3 with the triple guiloche in blue that has become a Laine standard.
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10 July 2024, 02:39 AM | #221 |
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FYI, I ordered mine in late April (2024) and it is arriving today.
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21 August 2024, 02:34 AM | #222 |
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21 August 2024, 07:14 AM | #223 |
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I have a small collection of Patek, Rolex, a VC CdV, a Moser Perpetual and a LF Origin. Thinking about that next step into independent watchmaking. With some consolidation/trades I would have a budget of approx 50k. My criteria are:
1. 38-40mm and 47-49mm l2l 2. High degree of manual finishing on movement, dial and case 3. The smaller the production the better 4. Bonus points for interesting case design Generally I favour finishing over complications for this watch. An obvious option would be to try and get on the list for an FPJ CS but that does not meet the manual finishing criterion. A microrotor LF would tick all but I prefer to add a new brand rather than duplicate. A Grönefeld Principia from my native The Netherlands would be cool but order books are closed. I LOVE niche stuff like Petermann Bedat, Simon Brette, Fabian Pellet etc but with my budget that is realistically beyond reach. Any other independents you can recommend? |
21 August 2024, 07:26 AM | #224 |
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When I read your wants and needs I was thinking about moritz grossman.
I don’t put finishing as high as you but if I did and around that range they are pretty darn nice.
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21 August 2024, 08:25 AM | #226 |
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Also unless you’re completely opposed to secondary they are very available for well under MSRP.
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21 August 2024, 09:53 AM | #227 | |
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If you're cool with used, then you can easily find a "like new" Principia below ~$38k USD. Maybe even lower now, but they have dropped a lot on secondary. From ~$45k at peak. If USD, I always find the ~$50k price point is kinda weird. It's just barely short of being able to get god tier pieces like the Gauthier Microinsight used (around ~$70k) and MB&F LM101 used (~$60k - $65k). Maybe worth saving a bit more as the options open up a lot with just another ~$10k - $20k? Armin Strom's Gravity Equal Force is 41mm, but meets your criteria. For ~$20k new, I can't think of any other new watches that come close for the value you get? It's a proprietary in-house movement, has a hidden PR, extensive hand finishing, and available customized. |
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21 August 2024, 10:18 AM | #228 |
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Simon is allocating his stainless steel chronomètre artisans now. As it is steel the pricing might be interesting. Pls contact him. His watch ticks all your boxes plus more.
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21 August 2024, 10:35 AM | #229 | |
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I agree about considering pre-owned for the Principia. There are definitely great deals to be made there. You’re right about the 50K range with watches. It’s such a tough spot. I think it’s always worth saving more and going for the watches in the 70K range if possible but that’s way easier said than done. I know it’s so cliche to say it but Armin Storm is underrated. I’m annoyed I don’t own one myself. |
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21 August 2024, 11:32 AM | #230 |
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I think the steel one is 65000CHF? Like the idea of having two different color dials to choose from though.
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21 August 2024, 12:43 PM | #231 |
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I’ve been very vocal about my interest and support of this brand. As someone who hopes to get one of his watches I’d also encourage you to try and see if this is possible for you. I’ve yet to see one in person but all the photos and videos are just jaw dropping. I also think the price is very fair.
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21 August 2024, 01:05 PM | #232 | |
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21 August 2024, 05:57 PM | #233 | |
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21 August 2024, 06:23 PM | #234 |
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Thanks so much for the feedback gents. On Grossmann I came very close to acquiring a steel Tremblage just a couple of weeks ago but decided against it because of the fairly large l2l of 50mm, long lugs and relatively simple case shape. The new smaller Tefnuts are nice though. I have looked at Armin Strom many times before and the finishing looks fantastic, especially at the price point which is very reasonable. I’m undecided on the aesthetic so far, may be it’s a little techincal and angular for my liking. We do an AD in the Netherlands so it should be easy to try a GEF on. Grönefeld Principia is high on the list and market prices have come down to RRP. I prefer to work with them direct and I’m on the “list” for when orders open up again. I can contact them again to see if there’s an opportunity there as I really like their finishing and cases. On Simon Brette - the answer in this collecting hobby of course is always to shoot for the stars. I cannot find any info on his Steel CA on his instagram or website. Where can I find more info? I’d like to read up before contacting him. I might even try to visit him and meet in person. A trip to Switzerland is not so difficult to organise. Again thanks so much for all the helpful input so far! Edit: as I was typing this TS3 suggested the Romain Gauthier C - I tried this on last year at EWC and was a little underwhelmed by the finishing. Also, not looking to add a sports watch as that space is covered by Rolex and I just sold a Streamliner Chrono that I hardly wore. Thanks for the suggestion though!
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21 August 2024, 06:42 PM | #235 |
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How about Urban Jürgensen? I think 1140 RG is stunning with some great details.
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21 August 2024, 09:52 PM | #236 | |
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I’d contact Gronefeld again, you never know. The finishing is really nice and the case is very distinct. For Simon Brette I’ve sent two emails and only got a boilerplate response. I recently sent a message via IG but I'm still waiting on a response. So I’ll let you know if there’s any update if that route works. I know others have had better success going in person. If that’s an option for you I’d consider it. I’m surprised you didn’t care for the finishing on the RG. That seems to be one of things people are pretty positive about with the brand. Then again I’ve yet to see anything but the Logical One in person which is just wow. Please keep us updated on what you plan to do/how things go. Definitely a lot of interesting/fun options for you to consider. |
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22 August 2024, 02:55 AM | #237 |
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I guess the thing about the finishing for the C is that it is half the price of the insight so you have to recalibrate expectations.
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22 August 2024, 06:24 AM | #238 |
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Thoughts on Lang & Heyne?
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22 August 2024, 06:29 AM | #239 |
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I got to play with one in-person about a month ago at their AD in Toronto (eBillion). The watches are exceptionally finished and trade for a nice discount on secondary. IMO, they are way better made than Lange & Sohne. So if someone loves the conservative German aesthetic, L&H is a good choice. Their frosting in particular, really shimmers and looks incredible. I loved it. The one thing to consider I guess is that the original founders are both gone from the brand and have been gone for some time now. Personally, it doesn't bug me too much, but I know it's a big deal for others. L&H will also customize their watches btw. I believe the wait is ~12 - 15 months. |
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