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ExplorerI · 14 January 2023, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 911AP

What guy? What year? What condition? These are all important details.

Both 2020. One new one used both naked.

911AP · 14 January 2023, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicof

Exactly…my 15202st has now been siting on a respected dealer’s website for two months on consignment at the lowest price out there and there’s basically zero interest. Not one dealer was interested in buying it outright at any price and several didn’t even want to consign it if they answered at all.

The watch is in excellent condition and full set so it’s not like it’s a dud…the market and AP in particular is just extremely slow.

People who believe the contrary are truly delusional at this point.

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Message me your dealer and I can give you a referral. Just because you are having a bad experience doesn't mean people are delusional. You just aren't set up right clearly. Inventory is moving.

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Originally Posted by Conway

If you consign it they will advertise it for 60-70k.

And frankly I don't believe a dealer will give you 50-55k in a cash sale, no dealer I know would. Can you name them because I've got watches that I'd sell if any dealers are giving good prices.

As I keep saying, it's all just pie in the sky, we can talk all we want on here but the only thing that matters is cash in your hand and I know what I know.

I have never had a problem selling a watch at the agreed upon price. Whether it was in a up market, down market, or a flat market.

Vince_76 · 15 January 2023, 12:57 AM

RO 50th Chrono white dial full set slider - $48.5k and sitting

VC 4500V BNIB fully stickered August 2022- $23k and sitting

GGGMT · 15 January 2023, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ExplorerI

Guy just said he had 2 Royal oak Jumbo blue dials one at 50k and one at 54k. Haven’t seen those prices in a while for the jumbo.

Guy is a straight shooter; bought 2 RO from him last year.

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T3rmina1 · 15 January 2023, 01:50 AM

Lol, someone just got banned for saying an 18k Batgirl is expensive (it is)

jgrae · 15 January 2023, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by T3rmina1

Lol, someone just got banned for saying an 18k Batgirl is expensive (it is)

They ban you quick for criticizing pricing. I get it, as it's a direct afront on the Mods who are supposed to review and approve pricing as wholesale, not retail level.

I wish they also discouraged vacuous "cheap" and "great price" comments especially as those are most common on overpriced listings. If the price is actually cheap, the correct comment is "sold."

T3rmina1 · 15 January 2023, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jgrae

They ban you quick for criticizing pricing. I get it, as it's a direct afront on the Mods who are supposed to review and approve pricing as wholesale, not retail level.

I wish they also discouraged vacuous "cheap" and "great price" comments especially as those are most common on overpriced listings. If the price is actually cheap, the correct comment is "sold."

Yup, those are so completely meaningless. If they think it's so cheap, they should be buying it

soicanbefree · 16 January 2023, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jgrae

They ban you quick for criticizing pricing. I get it, as it's a direct afront on the Mods who are supposed to review and approve pricing as wholesale, not retail level.

I wish they also discouraged vacuous "cheap" and "great price" comments especially as those are most common on overpriced listings. If the price is actually cheap, the correct comment is "sold."

They posted something a few weeks ago that they were gonna let the dummies who paid them for the "rwb" designation post any prics they want as a perk.

That's why you will see some really dopey prices lately.

Saw a 31.5 binb Panda. Just dreaming nobody is buying at many of the prices offered lately.

EEpro · 16 January 2023, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by soicanbefree

They posted something a few weeks ago that they were gonna let the dummies who paid them for the "rwb" designation post any prics they want as a perk.

That's why you will see some really dopey prices lately.

Saw a 31.5 binb Panda. Just dreaming nobody is buying at many of the prices offered lately.

I sold mine used for $31K wire

Vince_76 · 16 January 2023, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by messikens

Thanks for all the pricing updates Vince! With dmash AFK it's now all you :-).
Don't forget about my APs...

26420 mint 2021 - $34.3k sitting

Benzsiam · 16 January 2023, 10:00 AM

[QUOTE=Vince_76;12565379]RO 50th Chrono white dial full set slider - $48.5k and sitting

This one was gone next day. I make an offered at $45k, he wanted minimum at $47.5 and somebody took it. I think it's reasonable price.

I am actually want 26240OR but all of them are still way high compare to MSRP.

Vince_76 · 16 January 2023, 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=Benzsiam;12567986]

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Originally Posted by Vince_76

RO 50th Chrono white dial full set slider - $48.5k and sitting

This one was gone next day. I make an offered at $45k, he wanted minimum at $47.5 and somebody took it. I think it's reasonable price.

I am actually want 26240OR but all of them are still way high compare to MSRP.

I saw that. Sat for a bit over a day though. Definitely lowest price I’ve seen, and it’s going to get lower.

psm11 · 16 January 2023, 10:40 AM

Black 26331 from 2021 full set great condition for 39k and still hasn’t moved. Someone offered $35k for it.

messikens · 16 January 2023, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince_76

26420 mint 2021 - $34.3k sitting

Thank you!
Waiting for my 30k threshold to pull the trigger... Not much longer

Screwly · 16 January 2023, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by messikens

Thank you!
Waiting for my 30k threshold to pull the trigger... Not much longer

If it’s just sitting, then I would offer 30k and see what they say…

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GolfJunkie · 16 January 2023, 01:44 PM

Any idea what a 126618ln is going for?

samuel019 · 17 January 2023, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GolfJunkie

Any idea what a 126618ln is going for?

126618L"N"

Quite a few from 2021 that are listed as mint/full set in the 36k range

Also seen a few BNIB 2022 models for 38ish

So basically 36ish used and 38ish BNIB

126618L"B" are about $1-1500 higher both ways

Vince_76 · 17 January 2023, 08:46 AM

BNIB black ceramic Daytona Dec 2022 card - sold $24k

15500 rhodium watch only mint - sold $29.9k

These are both recent lows. Dropping fast

GolfJunkie · 17 January 2023, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by samuel019

126618L"N"

Quite a few from 2021 that are listed as mint/full set in the 36k range

Also seen a few BNIB 2022 models for 38ish

So basically 36ish used and 38ish BNIB

126618L"B" are about $1-1500 higher both ways

Thank you

We're getting close and maybe I'm waiting for something that'll never happen but if they get to 30-32k I might jump in.

ronricks · 17 January 2023, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince_76

BNIB black ceramic Daytona Dec 2022 card - sold $24k

15500 rhodium watch only mint - sold $29.9k

These are both recent lows. Dropping fast

Black dial Ceramic Daytona’s are dropping by the day it seems.

messikens · 17 January 2023, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwly

If it’s just sitting, then I would offer 30k and see what they say…

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Thanks I have but so far still form above 33/34k.

I'm gonna wait another month or so and see how it goes. Imagine once brand new ROOs are announced, the downward pressure may increase further

westbeach · 17 January 2023, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince_76

BNIB black ceramic Daytona Dec 2022 card - sold $24k

15500 rhodium watch only mint - sold $29.9k

These are both recent lows. Dropping fast

Are these watch only sales?

gmtmister · 17 January 2023, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by westbeach

Are these watch only sales?

The post clearly states one is watch only and the other has a 2022 card.

train-time · 18 January 2023, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince_76

BNIB black ceramic Daytona Dec 2022 card - sold $24k

15500 rhodium watch only mint - sold $29.9k

These are both recent lows. Dropping fast

Excellent Vince! We are getting there. Give it 6 more months

psm11 · 18 January 2023, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by train-time

Excellent Vince! We are getting there. Give it 6 more months

Seems like Paul Thorpe has moved the goal post -- advising not to sell any pieces until the market goes back up in spring or summer. So I guess we are too the moon come spring or summer

He also wants to remind everyone that dealers aren't here to screw anyone. If they lowball the hell out of your watch it isn't because they are screwing you, it's them just being honest. My god, give me a break with that crap.

NO ONE FEELS BAD THAT THESE GUYS ARE IN TROUBLE AND SITTING ON 5 PANDA DAYTONAS THEY BOUGHT FOR $50K AND CANT SELL THEM!

ExplorerI · 18 January 2023, 05:53 AM

Went browsing over the weekend and saw some pretty amazing prices. Do greys even want to sell watches? Are they just hoping some guy with more money than brains comes along and funds their operation for the month with one purchase?

Saw a VC overseas dual time in black for 52k. Same watch bnib sold on moda for $24k a couple weeks ago.

5712 for 120k. They’ve been in the 70s and 80s.

5402 for 140k. Guy had one posted for $55k that I’m
Not sure ever sold.

messikens · 18 January 2023, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ExplorerI

Went browsing over the weekend and saw some pretty amazing prices. Do greys even want to sell watches? Are they just hoping some guy with more money than brains comes along and funds their operation for the month with one purchase?

Saw a VC overseas dual time in black for 52k. Same watch bnib sold on moda for $24k a couple weeks ago.

5712 for 120k. They’ve been in the 70s and 80s.

5402 for 140k. Guy had one posted for $55k that I’m
Not sure ever sold.

Hey you never know - even on this forum you see 10-40 bumps for some APs and other watches...

Either the margin is not there, so sellers don't want to take a loss (or cannot give a larger discount) or they have enough funds to hold out for someone willing to pay it. Hard to say but I wish them well regardless... At the same time never hurts to ask about best and final

Incroyable12 · 18 January 2023, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ExplorerI

Went browsing over the weekend and saw some pretty amazing prices. Do greys even want to sell watches? Are they just hoping some guy with more money than brains comes along and funds their operation for the month with one purchase?

Saw a VC overseas dual time in black for 52k. Same watch bnib sold on moda for $24k a couple weeks ago.

5712 for 120k. They’ve been in the 70s and 80s.

5402 for 140k. Guy had one posted for $55k that I’m
Not sure ever sold.

Where was this?

train-time · 18 January 2023, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by psm11

Seems like Paul Thorpe has moved the goal post -- advising not to sell any pieces until the market goes back up in spring or summer. So I guess we are too the moon come spring or summer

He also wants to remind everyone that dealers aren't here to screw anyone. If they lowball the hell out of your watch it isn't because they are screwing you, it's them just being honest. My god, give me a break with that crap.

NO ONE FEELS BAD THAT THESE GUYS ARE IN TROUBLE AND SITTING ON 5 PANDA DAYTONAS THEY BOUGHT FOR $50K AND CANT SELL THEM!

Paul Thorpe - Right! He's about the same as that dog trainer from Chicago that predicted the Sub would hit $25K by last year-end. So much for that!

psm11 · 18 January 2023, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by train-time

Paul Thorpe - Right! He's about the same as that dog trainer from Chicago that predicted the Sub would hit $25K by last year-end. So much for that!

Truly was a painful and honestly annoying video to sit through. He and other grey dealers are all over the place. One day they are saying how the market hasn't slowed down and they are still selling a large amount of pieces. Next day they say the market is down and won't be better for a few months. Enough with the BS.

Market is down and continuing that way. I don't see any scenario where the grey dealer who bought a panda Daytona for 50k or a 15202 for 130k ever making that money back on the piece and instead are going to take a bath on it.

And to everyone that says demand has not slowed at the boutique level--how sure are we of that? Of course certain pieces will always have an insane demand but what is to stop AP, PP, and Rolex from putting up a charade that pieces are just as hard to get as last year to keep demand super high? We will never actually know.

15 January 2023, 12:57 AM	#2763
Vince_76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Orange County Posts: 1,847	RO 50th Chrono white dial full set slider - $48.5k and sitting VC 4500V BNIB fully stickered August 2022- $23k and sitting __________________ AP 15500ST (Silver) // ♛ Rolex 126334 (Blue Roman, Fluted, Jubilee) // Ω Moonswatch (Mission to Pluto) // G-Shock GA2100-1A1

16 January 2023, 10:00 AM	#2771
Benzsiam 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Watch: Rolex/AP/PP/ALS Posts: 6,000	[QUOTE=Vince_76;12565379]RO 50th Chrono white dial full set slider - $48.5k and sitting This one was gone next day. I make an offered at $45k, he wanted minimum at $47.5 and somebody took it. I think it's reasonable price. I am actually want 26240OR but all of them are still way high compare to MSRP. __________________ Rolex: 116621, 126333, 126711CHNR, 114060, 116500LN White, 126660 JC, 126710BLNR, 126710BLRO, 116610LV, 126610LN, 126610LV, 116508 YG Green Dial, 124300 Turquoise, 126719BLRO Meteorite dial, 228235 Olive dial ,126755SARU, 116505 RG Black dial, 326934 Blue Sky D. AP: 15451ST Blue, 15500OR w/Bracelet, 14790SA, 14790BA, 26022BC(Salmon) PP: 5524R, 5712G, ALS: Time Zone 136.032, Cartier: WGSA0030, WSSA0061, YG Oct. 2965, Carree 2961, YG Carree, Tank W5000156 Breguet: 7137BA, MontBlanc: 109996"

16 January 2023, 01:44 PM	#2776
GolfJunkie 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Eric Location: USA Watch: 252 Posts: 4,980	Any idea what a 126618ln is going for? __________________ 2FA Enabled

17 January 2023, 08:46 AM	#2778
Vince_76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Orange County Posts: 1,847	BNIB black ceramic Daytona Dec 2022 card - sold $24k 15500 rhodium watch only mint - sold $29.9k These are both recent lows. Dropping fast __________________ AP 15500ST (Silver) // ♛ Rolex 126334 (Blue Roman, Fluted, Jubilee) // Ω Moonswatch (Mission to Pluto) // G-Shock GA2100-1A1

15 January 2023, 01:50 AM	#2765
T3rmina1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: The Wired Posts: 77	Lol, someone just got banned for saying an 18k Batgirl is expensive (it is)

16 January 2023, 10:40 AM	#2773
psm11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: AP 15500 Posts: 700	Black 26331 from 2021 full set great condition for 39k and still hasn’t moved. Someone offered $35k for it.

18 January 2023, 05:53 AM	#2786
ExplorerI "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: USA Watch: Explorer I Posts: 741	Went browsing over the weekend and saw some pretty amazing prices. Do greys even want to sell watches? Are they just hoping some guy with more money than brains comes along and funds their operation for the month with one purchase? Saw a VC overseas dual time in black for 52k. Same watch bnib sold on moda for $24k a couple weeks ago. 5712 for 120k. They’ve been in the 70s and 80s. 5402 for 140k. Guy had one posted for $55k that I’m Not sure ever sold.

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