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jimmywhite · 1 August 2014, 03:09 PM

I just picked up a submariner, model 5512,,, it's a two liner. I found an earlier post clamming not to have seen a "two liner" of that model. I'm trying to find the year?
thanks for your help James

M4rkg4rd3n · 1 August 2014, 05:17 PM

Pics would help a lot.

JohnBaker3 · 1 August 2014, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmywhite

I just picked up a submariner, model 5512,,, it's a two liner. I found an earlier post clamming not to have seen a "two liner" of that model. I'm trying to find the year?
thanks for your help James

Early 5512's were just "two liners"; later models were the 4 line "Steve McQueen versions...

If you can get your jeweler to open the case back, it should be stamped with the model number (5512) and the quarter/year of production i.e. III 65

Good luck.

SOG DIVER · 24 November 2022, 05:51 AM

While early reference 5512 Submariners were two line non-COSC; with the introduction
of the 5513 series about 1963, Rolex submitted many 5512s to COSC certification-but not all.
In some cases, the 5512 case back may be stamped 5513. Not to worry. Rolex did that.

Caliber movements early on were 1530, then 1560 and 1570. Except for small differences, the 5512 and 5513 references shared case size, crystals and many other parts.
But generally, the 5513 was always a 2-line non-COSC/ non-date Submariner.

My 5512 was made in 1960, with the desirable pointed crown guards and gilt dial
of that year. The 1959 5512 is credited with initiating the first Submariner crown guards.

SOG DIVER · 9 June 2023, 11:27 AM

The 1560 caliber was the early 5512 first COSC chronometer movement. It was a 4-liner
and retained the gilt dial minute/chapter ring. Depending on year, these early 5512s
had squared off or pointed crown guards as Rolex was developing crown guards as a
work-in-progress. The added COSC-related lines and depth rating, along with other letter indices of the dial, were gilt or silvery in appearance. A good view of these early Submariner dials and hands for the 5512 may be found in Mark Lerner's "RolexHaven"-an excellent small site devoted to the early Submariner and other tool/sport Rolex references.

As an aside, if considering an extra band for use in addition to the somewhat fragile
and rare riveted bracelets: consider a stylish functional NATO band. They really protect
your watch should a spring bar fail. That is why the military use them as issue items.

D4W1D · 8 April 2024, 10:48 AM

Early references of it can be two liners

SOG DIVER · 15 April 2024, 01:36 AM

The OP either did not find an answer, or just did not share it or a photo.

It could well have been 1959. The really rare early 1959 reference 5512s may have had
the first flat tip crown guards. These were exceedingly rare and valuable. Rolex was
still working with the crown guards to find the best design for crown access and yet
protection.

1 August 2014, 03:09 PM	#1
jimmywhite "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2	sub 5512 I just picked up a submariner, model 5512,,, it's a two liner. I found an earlier post clamming not to have seen a "two liner" of that model. I'm trying to find the year? thanks for your help James

1 August 2014, 05:17 PM	#2
M4rkg4rd3n "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Glasgow Posts: 280	Pics would help a lot.

24 November 2022, 05:51 AM	#4
SOG DIVER "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: LtCol R Location: Mtns-NM-MT Watch: 1680Red-551214060M Posts: 273	While early reference 5512 Submariners were two line non-COSC; with the introduction of the 5513 series about 1963, Rolex submitted many 5512s to COSC certification-but not all. In some cases, the 5512 case back may be stamped 5513. Not to worry. Rolex did that. Caliber movements early on were 1530, then 1560 and 1570. Except for small differences, the 5512 and 5513 references shared case size, crystals and many other parts. But generally, the 5513 was always a 2-line non-COSC/ non-date Submariner. My 5512 was made in 1960, with the desirable pointed crown guards and gilt dial of that year. The 1959 5512 is credited with initiating the first Submariner crown guards.

9 June 2023, 11:27 AM	#5
SOG DIVER "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: LtCol R Location: Mtns-NM-MT Watch: 1680Red-551214060M Posts: 273	The 1560 caliber was the early 5512 first COSC chronometer movement. It was a 4-liner and retained the gilt dial minute/chapter ring. Depending on year, these early 5512s had squared off or pointed crown guards as Rolex was developing crown guards as a work-in-progress. The added COSC-related lines and depth rating, along with other letter indices of the dial, were gilt or silvery in appearance. A good view of these early Submariner dials and hands for the 5512 may be found in Mark Lerner's "RolexHaven"-an excellent small site devoted to the early Submariner and other tool/sport Rolex references. As an aside, if considering an extra band for use in addition to the somewhat fragile and rare riveted bracelets: consider a stylish functional NATO band. They really protect your watch should a spring bar fail. That is why the military use them as issue items.

8 April 2024, 10:48 AM	#6
D4W1D "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: NJ,USA Posts: 15	Early references of it can be two liners

15 April 2024, 01:36 AM	#7
SOG DIVER "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: LtCol R Location: Mtns-NM-MT Watch: 1680Red-551214060M Posts: 273	The OP either did not find an answer, or just did not share it or a photo. It could well have been 1959. The really rare early 1959 reference 5512s may have had the first flat tip crown guards. These were exceedingly rare and valuable. Rolex was still working with the crown guards to find the best design for crown access and yet protection.

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