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20 July 2022, 11:51 PM | #1 |
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PLEASE ~ Put My Mind at Some Ease Here Re: 14060m!!
So here goes nothing...or very much something if you consider how much this has been bugging me. I recently gave up my 126610LN to get into my 14060m 2-liner. And...like many of us always on the hunt...I'm feeling like I miss my previous piece! I'd been lucky enough to purchase at retail (before the price jump) and had been the sole owner.
Now - all the reasons still stand for my wanting to jump into the 14060m. The bezel (I like a my watch to tell my story ~ esp since this will go to the son of mine who behaves better over the next 25 years or so ;), the cleaner dial, the case, the drilled lugs, the less of a 'statement' piece (except to collectors like us). But I do find myself still missing the heft of my date Sub. The feel of it. I can say I'm giving it my all to fall into the jangle of the 14060m bracelet. But I miss the sold construction of the new one. I'm trying my best not to Monday morning quarterback this decision because, alas, it has been made and what's done is done. But I keep going back to boards and videos and reviews to put my mind at ease. I appreciate the many threads devoted to people's love of this reference. So just looking for a little positive reinforcement within this context (has anyone done the same thing of going from a contemporary to vintage piece and had the same initial experience?). I accept the bashing that may come here as well. This is the internet after all. But just go easy. We're all just looking to be loved in life, eh? In the meantime, I'll be getting my watch into as much muck as humanly possible as I wait for that everlasting patina to come through! Surf's up! |
21 July 2022, 12:15 AM | #2 |
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Yes entirely and I'll have a sportsman's bet than in 10 years the much larger Chubmariner you moved on will be less popular than say the 14060/16610 pieces, as fashion and style changes and the 'less is more' vibe gathers pace!
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21 July 2022, 12:58 AM | #3 |
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Unfortunately, I don't think we can put your mind at ease because it's entirely a matter of personal taste and it sounds very clearly that you preferred your previous watch. You will probably be happier if you replace it. In my experience, you need to go with your gut, you can't talk yourself into liking something that you don't like.
BTW, a 14060m is not even close to vintage for me.
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21 July 2022, 01:00 AM | #4 |
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You can never go wrong with a 14060M.
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21 July 2022, 01:55 AM | #5 |
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Agree with Dan. We can't convince you to like or dislike something. Also 14060m is definitely not vintage.
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21 July 2022, 02:16 AM | #6 |
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And I’ll agree w Frank. That 14060M is not vintage. Older? Yes. Vintage? No way.
I hate to say it, but I think you made a mistake. If you like your previous watch that much, it seems you’re a modern Rolex guy. Stick with those. |
21 July 2022, 02:35 AM | #7 |
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Firstly, I really like your approach and thinking towards this...anticipating/accepting "the bashing"..."This is the internet after all." haha, well said.
As others have already stated, really comes down to personal taste and it sounds like you actually like BOTH a lot whereas many of us have a strong preference towards ONE (for various reasons). Did you handle/experience the 14060 before doing the swap? I happen to be in the 14060 > 114060/124060 camp so think you made the right decision, :)
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The 14060 is a classic. It is not vintage nor modern - after-all, it has been discontinued for several years. The 14060 is a classic indeed and a great watch.
I have one that I wear exclusively in the summer months due to the amount of water the watch comes in contact with daily. I prefer to wear mine on a rubber strap during the summer months with the black strap blending in very well with the black dial and bezel insert. I have never warmed up to the newer"big block" ceramic models, so for me, trading your big block trade for the 14060 was a good move. Enjoy the 14060.
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21 July 2022, 03:14 AM | #9 |
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What springer said. With the note that your SWISS MADE dial will not develop the extensive patina you likely imagine (like the one of tritium dials).
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21 July 2022, 06:39 AM | #10 |
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21 July 2022, 09:14 AM | #12 |
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I have an N-serial 14060 for my rainy day watch.
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21 July 2022, 09:39 AM | #13 |
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Wonderful choice, OP, 14060 two liner carries the original Submariner's heritage, it's simplicity is outstanding.
On the other hand you seem to be "trendy", not a criticism at all, mind you, but on the long run you won't regret your true spirit over fashion decision. Way to go! |
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I prefer my 14060M 2 liner over the newer 124060 Sub for all the right reasons, just like you. As for missing a date, go for a 5 digit GMT Master, its even lighter and thinner than the M.
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21 July 2022, 06:59 PM | #15 |
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If you know you really want something after it’s gone then that only confirms you should do what it takes to get it back.
I don’t have a 14060M but I do have a 16613 for the 2nd time after selling my original one to fund another purchase. I wish you luck with going for what you already know you want.
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21 July 2022, 09:56 PM | #16 |
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It could just be a case of "the grass is greener on the other side." I say keep the 14060 for a year and then you will know if you made the right choice.
For what it's worth, I much prefer the 14060 over the new models. I have a 1997 tritium model and I love it. |
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I wouldn’t worry - maybe give it 12 months. The 14060m is only increasing in value, so your not on the back foot.
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Where did he go?
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22 July 2022, 01:11 AM | #19 |
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I hope not repenting at leisure, in-lieu of acting in haste !
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22 July 2022, 01:17 AM | #20 |
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The 5-digit (and 114270) watches may not be considered vintage, yet, but, like the Porsche 993, they’ll be seen as the final renditions of the old Rolex way of doing things. The 14060 is infinitely cooler than a Sub-C, and, with its lighter weight, better to wear, too.
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Wouldn't be surprised if it was another
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Thanks, everyone. I'm sorry~been a little crazy around here and I haven't had a chance to sit down a write a proper response. I was never looking to be convinced of anything, per se. I was looking for exactly what I received: personal anecdotes about obtaining this reference that could lend a little context to mine. I appreciate those of you who've expressed their love for it. I've also appreciated some stories about letting go of a particular reference only to obtain one again down the line. This is what we do as enthusiasts. We dive in, research meticulously, revisit decisions good and bad. Compare, compare, compare. Really, the only hard part for me is missing the bracelet. While I didn't always love the ceramic, it was hard to part with such a solid bracelet. Surely, that's something someone somewhere could sympathize with. Perfectly aware that the dial won't patina the same way at all. I am, however, looking forward to the wabi sabi bezel. This, after all, is going to be passed down. I'm not a collector looking to flip nor do I care so much about "value" from a monetary standpoint. The "value" the 126610 had was sentimental only in how I got it. I put my name on a list on a lark whilst shopping for a bracelet for a Tudor of mine. Month later, I got the call one was in. Truly it was the first bond I've ever had after 20 years of wearing a watch. But as time went on through the year, there were aspects to the piece that always felt out of place FOR ME. ME ONLY. This is not an attack on any of you who love the new models. Just felt like more of a statement watch. In my other interests in life, I appreciate the craft of years' past. I'll take a sloop from the 70's made in Bristol, RI over some modern monohull any day of the year. I'll take drum brakes and a finicky kickstart thank you very much over a push button ignition nod to the past. So why wouldn't I get myself into a piece that I can bang around only to have it look better!
Alas, I'm human after all. Can't help but lose myself in green grass over there sometimes. |
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I've had both. And I bought neo vintage after having ceramic. I went in really concerned I would hate the bracelet and honestly because I was so skeptical I wass actually pleasantly surprised. As soon as you have it on it blows away a modern one in terms of comfort. I think it feels more like it was made more by hand with less robots which I also appreciate more. Every modern sub is exactly the same and will always look the same
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Great looking sub. Were I you, I would suspend judgment and just wear the watch for a good period of time. Make it part of your routine. Use it as intended, a bullet proof tool watch. In a few months or a year, you will know if it is a keeper for you.
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Sit tight don't overthink it - Love my 14060 my favorite Rolex
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25 July 2022, 01:03 PM | #28 |
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like what springer said.. you cant go wrong with a 14060 compared to the chubmariner..
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25 July 2022, 01:33 PM | #29 |
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Bored?
Feel like a change in your dull life? Overeating is not an option, though trendy nowadays! What about a bracelet change? |
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