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Old 23 July 2022, 04:27 PM   #1
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Aftermarket Oyster Bracelet for 1990's Sub

I am after an aftermarket metal oyster bracelet for a 1990's no date 14060 submariner
Preferably something with screw links and smallish length..
I have small bony wrists..about 6 and 1/2 inches
I have the original oyster bracelet, but can't get a tight enough fit. Not only do I have to remove all screwed links, it also looks like removal necessary of one or two of the links attached to the clasp.
I am really not included to mess with such a nice vintage bracelet!
So I am after an alternative oyster bracelet to preserve (and safe queen) my full length original ..
Given there would be so many with smallish wrists like me out out there - now wanting to wear 40mm Rolex- I'm staggered there isn't an aftermarket (smaller) Oyster alternative?
Anybody have success with one?
If so which one?
And are there any pitfalls with endlinks scratch etc?
Would you recommend using the original endlinks?
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Old 23 July 2022, 05:05 PM   #2
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You can permanatly remove one fixed link to make it fit your wrist. I personally wouldn’t wear an aftermarket metal bracelet on my Rolex.
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Old 23 July 2022, 05:07 PM   #3
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Put it on a strap

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Old 23 July 2022, 07:16 PM   #4
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Put it on a strap
This.

An aftermarket steel Oyster bracelet is a travesty.
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Old 23 July 2022, 07:29 PM   #5
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Good luck with an aftermarket bracelet for your Rolex.
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Old 23 July 2022, 10:11 PM   #6
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I'd say go ahead and buy an aftermarket bracelet and give it a try; they're cheap enough. In terms of "which one", I couldn't say. They seem pretty similar and generic to me, and I certainly don't keep track of different brands of AM/replica parts. This is probably the wrong forum for that, but there are entire separate forums on the topic if you catch my drift.
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Old 23 July 2022, 11:19 PM   #7
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Strapcode used to make an oyster style bracelet meant to fit a 1680. I’m not sure if they still do or if they expanded to other vintage models (and I’ve no idea why it was the 1680 they chose). Rolex will give anyone a hard time if they even suggest it’s meant for a Rolex so they use the code “RX” to designate it. To be clear, it’s not a replica and I’ve no actual experience with the bracelet (but I have a few others of theirs for my Seiko).
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Old 23 July 2022, 11:42 PM   #8
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Removing a permanent link is the time-honored way for smaller fittings. Prior to the screw-bar 93150 bracelets the links were folded in place and any length change was done by permanent link removal.

No newer solid end link bracelet will fit.

Qualitytyme.net carries bracelets and parts.
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Old 24 July 2022, 12:00 AM   #9
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Removing a permanent link is the time-honored way for smaller fittings. Prior to the screw-bar 93150 bracelets the links were folded in place and any length change was done by permanent link removal.

No newer solid end link bracelet will fit.

Qualitytyme.net carries bracelets and parts.
If you are talking the 11501 it's looks awesome but like the original is going to be to long - not enough removable links!
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Old 24 July 2022, 12:09 AM   #10
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Just a thought if you have a divers extension which stops you maximising the full length of the clasp.
My son has a similarity slim size wrist, and wanted to keep the original submariner 93150 bracelet - so we took the extension clasp off entirely incl the link attaching to it, and put it away safely).... and instead fitted a different final Rolex link with the integrated tube attachment at the end - It fits his wrist fine now, when on the last hole on clasp, and buys quite a bit of extra adjustment, over when the diver extension is fitted!
Similar to this part btw.https://images.app.goo.gl/HQsMjMBCf4n9ZjGU8
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Old 24 July 2022, 09:05 AM   #11
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My wrists are pretty small too.

Buy a 93250 clasp, shorter link at 6 o'clock and you'll have 4 1/2 instead of 5 full links.

Let me know if it helped, please.
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Old 24 July 2022, 09:17 AM   #12
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My wrists are pretty small too.

Buy a 93250 clasp, shorter link at 6 o'clock and you'll have 4 1/2 instead of 5 full links.

Let me know if it helped, please.
Perfect!

Can I buy this bracelet straight off you?!

(or the exact aftermarket equivalent?)

Why aren't they made?
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Old 24 July 2022, 09:20 AM   #13
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OP, buying a fake/aftermarket is a criminal act...

just go to an AD and ask (and pay) for this:
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Old 24 July 2022, 09:26 AM   #14
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P.S. I've forgotten to mention that on my daily beater (16600 SD) I've also removed the divers' extension.

It was duly replaced by a 78360 link 32-20686.
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Old 24 July 2022, 09:27 AM   #15
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OP, buying a fake/aftermarket is a criminal act...

just go to an AD and ask (and pay) for this:
Ah OK - and get them to fit it onto my original bracelet?

...with the shorter half link?

That what you mean?

What is your wrist size?



Thanks!
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Old 24 July 2022, 09:50 AM   #16
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@wappinghigh, you can do it yourself if the AD sells them to you.

Some AD don't like to mismatch parts. If so, get another one that doesn't bother too much.

Don't be afraid to ask. And yes, why not having the AD watchmaker do the change? It's a 5 minute job.

My wrist is as per this pic, 4 1/2 links at 6 o'clock 4 1/4 at 12 o'clock.
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Old 24 July 2022, 10:05 AM   #17
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@wappinghigh, you can do it yourself if the AD sells them to you.

Some AD don't like to mismatch parts. If so, get another one that doesn't bother too much.

Don't be afraid to ask. And yes, why not having the AD watchmaker do the change? It's a 5 minute job.

My wrist is as per this pic, 4 1/2 links at 6 o'clock 4 1/4 at 12 o'clock.
Sure Dude I don't mind paying for the proper parts from an AD (as long as the end result bracelet will fit!...)

This aint easy mate. If it was - I wouldn't be asking

Trust me - my AD will have zero idea...

Kindly confirm two things.

1/ You have this bracelet (you have put together) on a 14060 Sub

2/ What is your wrist size - so I know what you are suggesting will work.

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Old 24 July 2022, 10:12 AM   #18
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But the question remains.

Why isn't there a quality aftermarket - (heck I'll even take an original Rolex!) full ("short" - for the little guy) bracelet - just like what you have made up Filipao - that I can simply swap in, so I can safe queen my "long" Original 93150 - complete with extension (without having to risk scratching/damaging/losing links etc) It is worth a lot of money in it's original state.. so why risk screw balling it up by messing with it?
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But the question remains.

Why isn't there a quality aftermarket...so I can safe queen my "long" Original 93150
I don't think there's that much demand for aftermarket bracelets on genuine Rolexes.

You might as well also get a replica head, and just keep the whole original watch in the safe. Which renders the whole exercise pointless.

The information provided by Filipćo above should resolve your issue. I would avoid aftermarket and do it properly.
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Old 24 July 2022, 10:35 AM   #20
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I don't think there's that much demand for aftermarket bracelets on genuine Rolexes.

You might as well also get a replica head, and just keep the whole original watch in the safe. Which renders the whole exercise pointless.

The information provided by Filipćo above about how to resolve your issue is excellent. Don't go aftermarket.
Ok no worries.

More than happy to pay for the proper Rolex replacement bracelet (and service)

I'll take the watch into the AD and get them to source another (new) Oyster and fit it properly

Nothing wrong with ending up with two Oyster bracelets for such an iconic watch...

Cheers
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Old 24 July 2022, 12:34 PM   #21
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1/ You have this bracelet (you have put together) on a 14060 Sub

2/ What is your wrist size - so I know what you are suggesting will work.
Mind this, a stretched bracelet is the worst you can have, so make sure yours is zero stretch.

#1 = Yes, have done it on all my 93150 bracelets, including 14060;

#2 = My wrist perimeter is about 165mm/25.4= 6.5".
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Old 24 July 2022, 12:43 PM   #22
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This is the most stretch I can handle (top pic is my SD)

More and it'll be hard to have a proper fit.
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Old 26 July 2022, 11:09 AM   #23
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I have a 16610 and 6.5 inch (well-dont like to think they are bony but perhaps) and have a 1997 16610 (im assuming same bracelet) and have a perfect fit. Im assuming you took out all links that could be removed and also put the fine adjustment (on the clasp) to the smallest setting and it still does not fit?
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Old 26 July 2022, 11:22 AM   #24
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I have a 16610 and 6.5 inch (well-dont like to think they are bony but perhaps) and have a 1997 16610 (im assuming same bracelet) and have a perfect fit. Im assuming you took out all links that could be removed and also put the fine adjustment (on the clasp) to the smallest setting and it still does not fit?
Same with me, as described above.

The reason I have a clasp with a half size link (93250) is just to have a more balance relationship 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock
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