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jedly1 · 6 March 2014, 02:25 PM

heres a totally original 5517 that came out of the safe after umpteen years put away, its one of the best I've ever had.

here it is after two and half weeks in the aussie sun whilst I've been wearing it out on the boat.

the colour change in person is pretty dramatic its lightened totally, and faster than any other I've seen do it.

ps.side note...note the hands and dial have both aged AND lightened at different rates ...of course they have, made on different days and in different factories from different mixes of tritium based luminous compound.

swish77 · 6 March 2014, 02:30 PM

Good lord, that's beautiful! Amazing piece. And very interesting about the patina. Thanks for sharing.

jdmi32 · 6 March 2014, 02:35 PM

Gorgeous. Just gorgeous. Do you think it will continue to get lighter with more sun exposure? Or if the change was accelerated by the sudden exposure to strong UV rays after being hidden away for so long?

jedly1 · 6 March 2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmi32

Gorgeous. Just gorgeous. Do you think it will continue to get lighter with more sun exposure? Or if the change was accelerated by the sudden exposure to strong UV rays after being hidden away for so long?

i think thats it , we've had a really good two weeks of strong sun with high UV and I've been out sailing pretty much every day all day , so i think thats the 'safe/sock drawer' patina reversed, its the quickest I've eve seen it happen but then if its had 6 hrs of sun for 15 days .,.thats the like the whole of british summer doubled.

i wish i could capture the full extent on film but it gives you the idea. I'm gonna get another one similar out of the safe and try that one too :)

CaveDiver · 6 March 2014, 02:47 PM

Nice. Is it for sale?

jedly1 · 6 March 2014, 02:55 PM

no ..its spoken for by a friend.who is desperate for a 5517 to finish his set..which is why i got it out of the safe in the first place

actually , the reason i paid attention to the patina was that he wanted it lighter and i assured him it would lighten up after a bit of wear out of the safe...just surprised how fast and strong that has happened.

southtexas · 6 March 2014, 03:00 PM

Jed, very cool! An absolute grail watch and excellent to see photographic, detailed proof of such a dramatic change in a short time. Nothing like "live experiments" in the field. Hope you enjoyed your vacation and continue to enjoy that watch.

skprd13 · 6 March 2014, 03:03 PM

Wow gorgeous watch my friend!

Ben39 · 6 March 2014, 03:09 PM

Jed, that's an amazing 5517 u have! Time traveler! 2 wks are way too fast for the patina shade to lightened, the sun is too strong. But still stunning mate:)

CrownMe · 6 March 2014, 04:16 PM

thanks Jed for the info. very interesting

I wish my safe had a couple of those laying around

Vincent65 · 6 March 2014, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jedly1

heres a totally original 5517 that came out of the safe after umpteen years put away, its one of the best I've ever had.

the colour change in person is pretty dramatic its lightened totally, and faster than any other I've seen do it.

ps.side note...note the hands and dial have both aged AND lightened at different rates ...of course they have, made on different days and in different factories from different mixes of tritium based luminous compound.

Absolute stunner, mate - may I have it please!?

Also, this completely replicates the patination experience I had with my 1680 from Eric, same with the hands too, which now have lightened up to match the hour plots exactly. The whole thing took a couple of weeks as well, which I documented at the time on TKF. It's been ongoing since, but less rapid, of course, and has settled on cream now. Thanks for posting. Cheers, Karl

mluther · 6 March 2014, 05:04 PM

2 weeks in the sun to lighten and then probably another decade in the safe to darken.

So a theory being discussed in an earlier thread that;

patina and unfaded bezel = stored in safe/not used much

no patina and faded bezel = the opposite,

could be contradicted by a watch with strong patina and unfaded bezel being worn in the sun for a while.....and that's why we love vintage

mluther · 6 March 2014, 05:05 PM

oh and wow - what a 5517 - how many more do you have in the safe?

Andad · 6 March 2014, 05:24 PM

Very nice condition.

toph · 6 March 2014, 05:39 PM

Fascinating, beautiful piece too!

Furbo · 6 March 2014, 06:59 PM

What a great watch :P

NukeMan · 6 March 2014, 07:15 PM

Extremely interesting and stunner of a watch

jedly1 · 6 March 2014, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mluther

oh and wow - what a 5517 - how many more do you have in the safe?

getting low, I'm down to three 5517 , one 5513/7 and one 5513....but i'll probably take it back down to the set of three references only as some days when you gets em out the duplication just seems silly.

yes karl. you know when you are ready there will be one waiting for you:)

Jason71 · 6 March 2014, 09:23 PM

Karl, I remember your thread illustrating the dramatic lightening of the lume / patina on your red. Interesting that Jed can mimic the same changes. Thanks for sharing, and thanks for the pictures of a true grail of grails.

enhamhale · 6 March 2014, 09:41 PM

Wow love it

Vincent65 · 6 March 2014, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jedly1

getting low, I'm down to three 5517 , one 5513/7 and one 5513....but i'll probably take it back down to the set of three references only as some days when you gets em out the duplication just seems silly.

yes karl. you know when you are ready there will be one waiting for you:)

Awesome - I think that day is somewhere in my future, hopefully. Maybe I'll auction one of my kids.

And yes, the duplication is silly, I agree

Cheers my friend, K

Vincent65 · 6 March 2014, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason71

Karl, I remember your thread illustrating the dramatic lightening of the lume / patina on your red. Interesting that Jed can mimic the same changes. Thanks for sharing, and thanks for the pictures of a true grail of grails.

Thanks Jason,

...wish it had a 'T' and sword hands!

donaker · 6 March 2014, 10:17 PM

Such a gorgeous timepiece!

mluther · 6 March 2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jedly1

getting low, I'm down to three 5517

Yep - that's shockingly low

I'll get in line behind Karl - just need to see how much I can get for a kidney!!

Johny · 7 March 2014, 12:00 AM

hi jed that is a stunning watch. scunner(ian) was over at the house the other week to show me his new dial. very nice.

here is a pic of his bezel sitting on my lv.

Clay · 7 March 2014, 12:28 AM

Hang on a second here J…Am I to understand that you took this most beautiful, rare and expensive watch, out sailing for days on end…???

SubKing · 7 March 2014, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Clay

Hang on a second here J…Am I to understand that you took this most beautiful, rare and expensive watch, out sailing for days on end…???

Amazing piece as usual Jed.

mjclark32 · 7 March 2014, 01:00 AM

lhanddds · 7 March 2014, 01:09 AM

Great post Jed, it would be interesting to place it back in the dark for a while and see what happens.

SubKing · 7 March 2014, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lhanddds

Great post Jed, it would be interesting to place it back in the dark for a while and see what happens.

what's another 10 years

6 March 2014, 02:25 PM	#1
jedly1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: mel(oz)/Yorks(uk) Posts: 1,928	here an interesting one for you on patina. heres a totally original 5517 that came out of the safe after umpteen years put away, its one of the best I've ever had. here it is after two and half weeks in the aussie sun whilst I've been wearing it out on the boat. the colour change in person is pretty dramatic its lightened totally, and faster than any other I've seen do it. ps.side note...note the hands and dial have both aged AND lightened at different rates ...of course they have, made on different days and in different factories from different mixes of tritium based luminous compound.

6 March 2014, 03:00 PM	#7
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,752	Jed, very cool! An absolute grail watch and excellent to see photographic, detailed proof of such a dramatic change in a short time. Nothing like "live experiments" in the field. Hope you enjoyed your vacation and continue to enjoy that watch. __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

6 March 2014, 05:24 PM	#14
Andad 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,422	Very nice condition. __________________ E

6 March 2014, 05:39 PM	#15
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	Fascinating, beautiful piece too! __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

6 March 2014, 09:23 PM	#19
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Karl, I remember your thread illustrating the dramatic lightening of the lume / patina on your red. Interesting that Jed can mimic the same changes. Thanks for sharing, and thanks for the pictures of a true grail of grails. __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

6 March 2014, 02:30 PM	#2
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,954	Good lord, that's beautiful! Amazing piece. And very interesting about the patina. Thanks for sharing.

6 March 2014, 02:35 PM	#3
jdmi32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Ky Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 16570 Posts: 2,362	Gorgeous. Just gorgeous. Do you think it will continue to get lighter with more sun exposure? Or if the change was accelerated by the sudden exposure to strong UV rays after being hidden away for so long?

6 March 2014, 02:47 PM	#5
CaveDiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,075	Nice. Is it for sale?

6 March 2014, 02:55 PM	#6
jedly1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: mel(oz)/Yorks(uk) Posts: 1,928	no ..its spoken for by a friend.who is desperate for a 5517 to finish his set..which is why i got it out of the safe in the first place actually , the reason i paid attention to the patina was that he wanted it lighter and i assured him it would lighten up after a bit of wear out of the safe...just surprised how fast and strong that has happened.

6 March 2014, 03:03 PM	#8
skprd13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Tom Location: Kauai Watch: 1675-1680-16750 Posts: 3,346	Wow gorgeous watch my friend!

6 March 2014, 03:09 PM	#9
Ben39 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Ben Location: Asia Watch: Gilt sub Posts: 1,669	Jed, that's an amazing 5517 u have! Time traveler! 2 wks are way too fast for the patina shade to lightened, the sun is too strong. But still stunning mate:)

6 March 2014, 04:16 PM	#10
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	thanks Jed for the info. very interesting I wish my safe had a couple of those laying around

6 March 2014, 05:04 PM	#12
mluther "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Michael Location: Brussels Watch: aholic Posts: 1,108	2 weeks in the sun to lighten and then probably another decade in the safe to darken. So a theory being discussed in an earlier thread that; patina and unfaded bezel = stored in safe/not used much no patina and faded bezel = the opposite, could be contradicted by a watch with strong patina and unfaded bezel being worn in the sun for a while.....and that's why we love vintage

6 March 2014, 05:05 PM	#13
mluther "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Michael Location: Brussels Watch: aholic Posts: 1,108	oh and wow - what a 5517 - how many more do you have in the safe?

6 March 2014, 06:59 PM	#16
Furbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Slovenia, EU Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,507	What a great watch :P

6 March 2014, 07:15 PM	#17
NukeMan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Jonas Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 988	Extremely interesting and stunner of a watch

6 March 2014, 09:41 PM	#20
enhamhale "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Alex Location: England (andover) Watch: Submariners all Posts: 470	Wow love it

6 March 2014, 10:17 PM	#23
donaker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Canada Watch: Dad's 5508 Posts: 355	Such a gorgeous timepiece!

7 March 2014, 12:28 AM	#26
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	Hang on a second here J…Am I to understand that you took this most beautiful, rare and expensive watch, out sailing for days on end…???

7 March 2014, 01:00 AM	#28
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	__________________

7 March 2014, 01:09 AM	#29
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	Great post Jed, it would be interesting to place it back in the dark for a while and see what happens.

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