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Old 14 September 2024, 09:28 PM   #1
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Cubitus-latest

Someone has posted an invitation to the launch of PP’s new line- Cubitus. Some new pictures from the patent filed by PP have shown part of the appearance of Cubitus. Also the MRPS of Cubitus will be lower than Nautilus or Aquanaut.
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Old 14 September 2024, 10:31 PM   #2
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Will be interesting to see. I'm hoping for something refreshing and new- hopefully not a hype watch that sells for 4x retail.
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Old 15 September 2024, 12:46 AM   #3
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Old 15 September 2024, 01:55 AM   #4
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Do we have a date when it's supposed to be unveiled & announced?
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Old 15 September 2024, 02:09 AM   #5
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Only a matter of time before we have some leaked images or more info.

Also how do we know the pricepoint being less than the aquanaut?
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Old 15 September 2024, 02:09 AM   #6
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Old 15 September 2024, 04:22 AM   #7
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Will be interesting to see. I'm hoping for something refreshing and new- hopefully not a hype watch that sells for 4x retail.
IF it is indeed priced lower than the other sport models you can bet it'll go for at least 2-3x retail on secondary mkt if not more right out the gate
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Old 15 September 2024, 05:42 AM   #8
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Old 15 September 2024, 11:43 PM   #9
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Only a matter of time before we have some leaked images or more info.

Also how do we know the pricepoint being less than the aquanaut?
Want to not alienate new clients
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Old 15 September 2024, 11:47 PM   #10
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I vaguely recall reading somewhere Stern said the main market demand for PPs was in the 30-40,000 range - Euros?

https://hypebeast.com/2019/5/patek-p...s-buying-guide

https://www.luxurybazaar.com/grey-ma...YUAtWQzI021gBh
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Old 16 September 2024, 12:41 AM   #11
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Want to not alienate new clients
Meaningless if they want hundreds of thousands of $$ in spend to even qualify.

We’ll see. Hopefully they actually are targeting new customers
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Old 16 September 2024, 12:46 AM   #12
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Meaningless if they want hundreds of thousands of $$ in spend to even qualify.

We’ll see. Hopefully they actually are targeting new customers
Very AD dependant
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Old 16 September 2024, 12:58 AM   #13
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Very AD dependant
Well if Patek doesn’t mandate any KPIs of the sort then nothing will change. It’s about incentives.

Is it AD dependent today? I don’t know of any cases of getting an aquanaut/nautilus as one’s first.
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Old 16 September 2024, 03:03 AM   #14
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Well if Patek doesn’t mandate any KPIs of the sort then nothing will change. It’s about incentives.

Is it AD dependent today? I don’t know of any cases of getting an aquanaut/nautilus as one’s first.
It is partly AD dependent.

Before the craze, a first-time buyer could buy a Nautilus as a first timepiece.
Today, this is still possible with the Salons with the appropriate introduction.
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It is partly AD dependent.

Before the craze, a first-time buyer could buy a Nautilus as a first timepiece.
Today, this is still possible with the Salons with the appropriate introduction.
Yeah I’m aware of the gold old days when sports models would sit and were even looked down upon lol. Wish we go back to those days (definitely heading in the right direction).

If a whale with millions of dollars of spend is introducing you that doesn’t say much. They’re catering to the whale by throwing a relatively cheap bone to the LTV of the whale.

I am not aware of anyone in the past 4 years that got a sports model at an AD without notable spend.
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Old 16 September 2024, 04:53 AM   #16
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I am not aware of anyone in the past 4 years that got a sports model at an AD without notable spend.
Several reports on YouTube of first Patek being a sports piece, I have no doubts there are plenty more.
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Yeah I’m aware of the gold old days when sports models would sit and were even looked down upon lol. Wish we go back to those days (definitely heading in the right direction).

If a whale with millions of dollars of spend is introducing you that doesn’t say much. They’re catering to the whale by throwing a relatively cheap bone to the LTV of the whale.

I am not aware of anyone in the past 4 years that got a sports model at an AD without notable spend.
These « old days » are just a few years ago. In 2018, one could get « sports models » as their first watch without spend history or introduction. This is still true in the Salons with the right introduction.

« Whales » are not the best persons for an introduction with Patek, collectors are; stars also, to some extent.
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Old 16 September 2024, 02:59 PM   #18
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Someone has posted an invitation to the launch of PP’s new line- Cubitus. Some new pictures from the patent filed by PP have shown part of the appearance of Cubitus. Also the MRPS of Cubitus will be lower than Nautilus or Aquanaut.
I have searched and found several patent documents including those images. I think the image with the bezel is related to 5374/300P, not the new line, the essence of the patent being the integration of elements such as the indices to the bezel, there by simplifying the fabrication of the dial.

The image with the ring-like gear seems to be a huge column wheel of a chronograph. So at least this would not relate to the time-only base model of the new line.

The image which to me seems most likely to be related to the new line is the one with the quick-release pin of a strap, which would suit the concept of "convertible" written in the invitation.

Searching through recent patents by Patek, I have found one of a rotating bezel construction, which echoes the rumors that the new line is going to be diver's model.
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Old 16 September 2024, 04:33 PM   #19
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Several reports on YouTube of first Patek being a sports piece, I have no doubts there are plenty more.
sure, after buying diamonds and jewelry for half a million from the AD:::)))
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I have searched and found several patent documents including those images. I think the image with the bezel is related to 5374/300P, not the new line, the essence of the patent being the integration of elements such as the indices to the bezel, there by simplifying the fabrication of the dial.

The image with the ring-like gear seems to be a huge column wheel of a chronograph. So at least this would not relate to the time-only base model of the new line.

The image which to me seems most likely to be related to the new line is the one with the quick-release pin of a strap, which would suit the concept of "convertible" written in the invitation.

Searching through recent patents by Patek, I have found one of a rotating bezel construction, which echoes the rumors that the new line is going to be diver's model.
Thanks for the breakdown. A diver could also make sense after they "downgraded" all their other pieces to 30m only...
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Old 16 September 2024, 09:24 PM   #21
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Several reports on YouTube of first Patek being a sports piece, I have no doubts there are plenty more.
I understand in the UK there is a policy of not allocating an Aquanaut/Nautilus as the first Patek to a customer. However I am sure there are exceptions to the policy.
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It’s a collaboration, Aqua-Swatch or Nauti-Swatch:)
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Old 17 September 2024, 02:49 AM   #23
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Interesting. Good work internet sleuths!

The notion of Patek making a round diver is... interesting. Certainly does look like there could be a rotating bezel and an option changing straps without the use of tools.

What I will say: if Patek wades into this highly saturated area, I hope that it brings it. I imagine it may be difficult to stand out in a crowded field. Or, at a minimum, it could read as very uninspired. But who know, I hope that I am wowed. I do like the idea of a new line and one that is more accessibly priced.

One idea I had: it would cool if the watch had a button that would reset a bezel to zero. I imagine that would be super fun to play with.
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Old 17 September 2024, 03:25 AM   #24
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Ready to see the diver with 30m water resistance. It's alright, though, because my Patek AD is more resistant to sell me any piece I'd want than their sport watches ever could be water resistant!

Sorry, just had to throw it out there.
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I'm sure they will launch a nice product line and it will be just as hard to get as a Nautilus and Aquanaut anyways....
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Eh, as people mentioned, unavailability of sports models is a pretty recent phenomenon. I imagine, as time goes on, that will change. Market is softening and I imagine will continue to soften.
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sure, after buying diamonds and jewelry for half a million from the AD:::)))
If anyone has done that they should be sectioned.
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Several reports on YouTube of first Patek being a sports piece, I have no doubts there are plenty more.
Yup met a guy at an AD event whose first was a 5740 ... his second was a Grand Comp so if one has the right profile with the AD it's possible.
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If anyone has done that they should be sectioned.
yeah both the AD and the buyer:::)))
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Yup met a guy at an AD event whose first was a 5740 ... his second was a Grand Comp so if one has the right profile with the AD it's possible.
Love to know his AD
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