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Bob tomas · 2 June 2012, 01:12 PM

Long time lurker saying hello. Love reading this forum for its great info and opinons

I have had a 287 for a couple of years and recently got a 210, so have the PAM bug, but for rads so far. Since I got the 210 it has been taking all the wrist time...

I hope you don't mind me asking a question on my first post. The 210 is my first manual wind watch. I noticed that the 210 makes the winding click sound when unscrewing the crown, is this normal (or OK) for this watch - the auto 287 does not do this (the 287 was purchased in person from a B&M AD, but I bought the 210 from a "reputable" grey market dealer (full box, papers, movement sticker), so there is always some uncertainty. Keeps perect time)

thanks :)

Bob tomas · 6 June 2012, 08:41 AM

Sheesh, not even a hello

nauticajoe · 6 June 2012, 09:00 AM

Welcome! Hmmmmmm. Though one is a manual & the other being an auto movement, I'm not sure if that is normal. If it's keeping good time, then no sense in worrying.

bcacncnc · 6 June 2012, 09:34 AM

Hi Tomas. The 210 is one of my time favorites! Great choice. Unfortunately I don't own a Radiomir (yet) so can't comment your question. Is it still under warranty? Maybe you take for a service.

rulessapt · 6 June 2012, 03:14 PM

Hi Bob,
I would've replied earlier, however have been away for a couple of weeks.
The 210, which I just checked for the condition I think you have descibed, operates as follows.

When the crown is unscrewed, it can initially, prior to the crown extending fully to wind, if you are still turning the crown in an anti-clockwise direction, does engage the mechanism and prodice the clicking sound as if you were winding the crown in reverse.

Not sure if I have explained this clearly, however the bottom line being the watch is performing correctly.

The 287 is fitted with Valjoux 7750 movement, modified and decorated for Panerai and does not exhibit the same condition when the crown is unscrewed.
The 210 of course has the venerable Unitas 6497.
Whilst both movements were manufactured under the ETA umbrella, their origins were different and actions too differ, being a manual versus an automatic.

Owning both a 287 and a 210, like you, purchasing the 287 and then the 210.
You have the bug, it's all good.

I also (very) recently had the opportunity to purchase a 141 Radiomir which is fitted with the Zenith Elite 680 movement and it is different again, in the crown, the number of turns it screws down and has a display back which is extensively decorated.

Enjoy the forum, we're here to help and share experiences. Welcome.

cheers
richard

Bob tomas · 7 June 2012, 02:36 AM

Thanks guys. That's great info richard. Congrats on the 141

2 June 2012, 01:12 PM	#1
Bob tomas "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 13	Hello. PAM 210 and 287 owner Long time lurker saying hello. Love reading this forum for its great info and opinons I have had a 287 for a couple of years and recently got a 210, so have the PAM bug, but for rads so far. Since I got the 210 it has been taking all the wrist time... I hope you don't mind me asking a question on my first post. The 210 is my first manual wind watch. I noticed that the 210 makes the winding click sound when unscrewing the crown, is this normal (or OK) for this watch - the auto 287 does not do this (the 287 was purchased in person from a B&M AD, but I bought the 210 from a "reputable" grey market dealer (full box, papers, movement sticker), so there is always some uncertainty. Keeps perect time) thanks :)

6 June 2012, 09:34 AM	#4
bcacncnc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Bryan Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,577	Hi Tomas. The 210 is one of my time favorites! Great choice. Unfortunately I don't own a Radiomir (yet) so can't comment your question. Is it still under warranty? Maybe you take for a service. __________________ Omega Panerai Chopard Grand Seiko

6 June 2012, 08:41 AM	#2
Bob tomas "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 13	Sheesh, not even a hello

6 June 2012, 09:00 AM	#3
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	Welcome! Hmmmmmm. Though one is a manual & the other being an auto movement, I'm not sure if that is normal. If it's keeping good time, then no sense in worrying.

6 June 2012, 03:14 PM	#5
rulessapt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: richard Location: Tasmania Watch: u c Posts: 514	Hi Bob, I would've replied earlier, however have been away for a couple of weeks. The 210, which I just checked for the condition I think you have descibed, operates as follows. When the crown is unscrewed, it can initially, prior to the crown extending fully to wind, if you are still turning the crown in an anti-clockwise direction, does engage the mechanism and prodice the clicking sound as if you were winding the crown in reverse. Not sure if I have explained this clearly, however the bottom line being the watch is performing correctly. The 287 is fitted with Valjoux 7750 movement, modified and decorated for Panerai and does not exhibit the same condition when the crown is unscrewed. The 210 of course has the venerable Unitas 6497. Whilst both movements were manufactured under the ETA umbrella, their origins were different and actions too differ, being a manual versus an automatic. Owning both a 287 and a 210, like you, purchasing the 287 and then the 210. You have the bug, it's all good. I also (very) recently had the opportunity to purchase a 141 Radiomir which is fitted with the Zenith Elite 680 movement and it is different again, in the crown, the number of turns it screws down and has a display back which is extensively decorated. Enjoy the forum, we're here to help and share experiences. Welcome. cheers richard

7 June 2012, 02:36 AM	#6
Bob tomas "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 13	Thanks guys. That's great info richard. Congrats on the 141

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