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Identifying a genuine 9315 Submariner bracelet
With the proliferation of counterfeit and fake Rolex parts finding their way into the market due to the escalating prices of genuine parts, I thought it would be nice to have a thread here to identify genuine 9315 Submariner bracelets which seems to be one of the common bracelets that counterfeits are attempting to replicate these days.
These Swiss bracelets were found most often on Submariners after the Swiss 7206 rivet bracelet was discontinued. I believe Rolex introduced these bracelets around 1969 and they continued in use until the late 1970s on the Rolex watches and are found much later on the Tudor watches. Some of the attributes of this bracelet are: 1) 12 links, referred to as "folded links" 2) clasp does not have a thumbnail recess like found on the later 93150 bracelet 3) fliplock clasp is smooth on the top missing the two etched lines found on later 93150 clasps 4) 380 end links which are crimped to the last link of the bracelet 5) not uncommon to find clasp blades without a date stamp 6) 9315 is stamped on the outer side of the last link on the seven link side of the bracelet 7) 10 holes on each side of the clasp for adjustments The photos depicted here are from a bracelet found on a Submariner 1680 with a 1971 case back. The bracelet clasp is not dated which is not uncommon for these early bracelets. Additionally, the word PATENTED found on the diver's extension is misspelled and reads PATETED. (Rolex later corrected this error.) Not all of the 9315 diver's extension contain this spelling error.
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nice post john
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Hello John,
I'm reading through these threads looking for information on the Submariner. Long story short. Found one, I won in my very first storage unit that I bid on. Unfortunately/fortunately, I had ppl help me with unit it was 20 feet deep by 15 feet wide. They tore through it like vultures ripping through the boxes. Throwing things. Making a big mess, the watch was found in the rubble of the aftermath they left. The only numbers I see are 93150. As I seen it mentioned. I thought I ask you. BTW this unit was full of collectibles. Trust fund baby who blew through entire trust then died. Husband kept much but let storage unit go willingly. |
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is this rolex 9315 clasp genuine or fake
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Hello,
I have the same 9315 bracelet on my 5513 non serif dial serial 271xxxx (1971 - first half). PATETED clasp, no date, 380 end link. Someone says that the correct one would be 9315 with 280 end link, with date on the claps (4/71 or 1/72). Do you think mine could be anyway the correct one? Thank you |
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It seems original
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In putting this post together several years, I did leave out a few details. One being the early bracelets are going to have the 280 links and the later ones have the 380 end links.
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Excellent, John.
My 1680 red 1969 Submariner has this identical 9315 original bracelet. Purchased on leave in Hong Kong from I Corps, Vietnam. Four crystals purchased with watch, and later found a spare 93150 for $100. The early 1960s Rolex models from the tool watch era were popular with the military-even a bit less at the China Fleet Club. A bygone era that was a memorable experience. The watches live on to remind us of that time. |
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Excellent information Springer. Thanks for posting.
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Brilliant John , Thanks
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Haven't been around on the forums for long and just catching up, great post!
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Excellent bit of information here and no doubt since the original post the counterfeiters have been very busy
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