How ADs are Supposed to Decide

[Scott6113]

Saw this on a Paul Thorpe Watch Dealer youtube video. Found it useful, but then I'm a newbie.

[zengineer]

Useful in what way? This is a Rolex document, or Paul's creation or some random AD's policy, or something else?

You do know that no single youtuber is more consistently in left field or just plain wrong ...than Paul ?

Sent from my SM-T830 using Tapatalk

[Tensai]

It helps if you are good looking.

[TheWatchmen]

His “prediction” videos are borderline laughable…not in the sense that he may be right or wrong (some things he has speculated are well-known and not his original thoughts at all), but more that he claims to have his information on “good authority”.

If that were true, he’d be making millions rather than making click-bait titled YouTube videos.

Just my opinion. Maybe I’ll put my foot in my mouth come March 30th if his “insider” information was right…but I doubt it.

[brandrea]

I’ll come right out and say it … he’s annoying

[rmwill]

In fairness to Paul, all Rolex predictions are laughable. Others like Mark Goldberg are even worse. The above is reported to be an AD in the UK's process, but who knows.

[Cigars&Watches]

That matrix table was for one particular AD in the UK if it was actually accurate. I saw another video of his that indicated other Ad's in the UK don't use that sort of thing..so its not like a template handed down from HQ or anything.. With all the stories I have read on the various forums, etc, Allocation varies from AD to AD with some basic guidelines: dont sell to flippers, try to sell local, etc,

[ronricks]

Nobody on YouTube is more consistently wrong than Paul Thorpe.

[Meyrin]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I’ll come right out and say it … he’s annoying

Yes, he certainly is, as is another chap who drinks coffee and sells straps...

[WatchGuy1966]

Definitely not USA - we spell it "authorization" not "authorisation"


*disclaimer I'm not saying one is incorrect. Both are correct. But the disclaimer is so that I don't trigger the Karens in this forum.

[sathwik]

Worst watch guy channel to follow on youtube

[rmwill]

Watch the dog trainer Marc Goldberg. He is new level of F o S.

Originally Posted by ronricks

Nobody on YouTube is more consistently wrong than Paul Thorpe.

[PureCoconut]

I'd probably sooner believe JIM Thorpe!

[ArtNouveau]

My dealer allocates by your height. Below average and you will be waiting a long time.

[Santiago32]

Originally Posted by TheWatchmen

His “prediction” videos are borderline laughable…not in the sense that he may be right or wrong (some things he has speculated are well-known and not his original thoughts at all), but more that he claims to have his information on “good authority”.

If that were true, he’d be making millions rather than making click-bait titled YouTube videos.

Just my opinion. Maybe I’ll put my foot in my mouth come March 30th if his “insider” information was right…but I doubt it.

Borderline? They are laughable. It’s all clickbate. His content doesn’t add much value to the watch community imo. Most of the time it’s an echo of what is on TRF.

[Gab27]

I would expect ADs to have their own internal criteria that ensures their actions provide the best business return for their individual organization...not much different from other businesses, how they make decisions would not necessarily be universal.

[waterking]

Someday we are all going to look back at these times and refer to them as the Gullible Years.

[Time Out]

Originally Posted by waterking

Someday we are all going to look back at these times and refer to them as the Gullible Years.

That day is coming sooner than later. Its going to be interesting what happens to the luxury market as the FED tightens rates and liquidity goes away.

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Nobody on YouTube is more consistently wrong than Paul Thorpe.

Paul Thorpe is a 0 for the watch industry.

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by Scott6113

Saw this on a Paul Thorpe Watch Dealer youtube video.

OK. Stop there. You're spreading BS.

Start again somewhere else.

[gerry100]

Not surprisingly we are desperately overthinking this.

ADs operate in the best interests of their business.

That means taking care of their best customers. If you have a good, long term customer who wants a certain Rolex they take priority over a someone they've never seen before.

Specific decision processes vary by AD, but any TRFer would do the same.

My local AD has been developing relationships for 100yrs. They've got 30 Subs coming in and 500 on the list- they dont need a matrix

[Ensign]

Originally Posted by Meyrin

Yes, he certainly is, as is another chap who drinks coffee and sells straps...

True, but his Explorer I is pretty cool.

[johnwigan]

Originally Posted by Scott6113

Saw this on a Paul Thorpe Watch Dealer youtube video. Found it useful, but then I'm a newbie.

Yes it is useful. It is the Watches of Switzerland UK Rolex sales matrix.

It is useful because it tells you what you need to purchase if you want to buy a Rolex from WOS Group. They will happy register your interest in a Rolex when they know they have no intention of selling you that particular watch. The sales matrix gives you an idea of what you need to do to qualify to purchase a Rolex with them.

They will not sell you a Rolex unless you have purchase history with them. They will not sell you a stainless steel professional model unless you have previous Rolex purchase history with them. And the rest of the points on the sales matrix. Non WOS Group UK Rolex ADs do it differently.

So it is useful to me. I learned something.

Paul Thorpe was a Rolex dealer with years of experience and I find his videos entertaining and useful. He is not right with all his predictions but who is? Of course when you see the expertise and brainpower on display by posters on these boards it is clear they have nothing to learn from an experienced retired Rolex dealer such as Mr Thorpe. After all what would someone who made a very good living from selling Rolexes for years have to teach people who post on a Rolex message board?

[JSolution]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I’ll come right out and say it … he’s annoying

I used to like some of his videos but he really grates on me now. He was giving some financial advice borderline of sell all your property and buy Rolex on a recent video

I think that jenni Elle? (Is that her name) makes more tasteful watch videos however I don’t really Watch any watch videos on YouTube often.

[HHIslander]

Originally Posted by Gab27

I would expect ADs to have their own internal criteria that ensures their actions provide the best business return for their individual organization...not much different from other businesses, how they make decisions would not necessarily be universal.

Exactly. I am friends with the owner of my AD, they do little more than keep names in a database with some notes.

[zengineer]

Every AD decides in their own way. Some no doubt have an owner who simply sells quite a few to grey dealers directly and the rest to whoever he feels will buy the most jewelry or in some other way please him. Others divide them up between the sales staff who may or may not decide in ways we'd find "fair". Others likely have elaborate straw buyer -flipper networks and somehow get more than MSRP.

Some might even just put them in the case for whoever shows up...but let's face it, that's borderline psychotic behavior if you are a businessman.

I don't doubt some chain of ADs in Europe use the convoluted matrix in the video but so what?

Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

[azs.77]

Paul Thorpe..always an interesting take with him


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[azs.77]

But always take him with a heavy grain of salt


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Cwillis0001]

Paul is absolutely insufferable.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by johnwigan

Yes it is useful. It is the Watches of Switzerland UK Rolex sales matrix.

It is useful because it tells you what you need to purchase if you want to buy a Rolex from WOS Group. They will happy register your interest in a Rolex when they know they have no intention of selling you that particular watch. The sales matrix gives you an idea of what you need to do to qualify to purchase a Rolex with them.

They will not sell you a Rolex unless you have purchase history with them. They will not sell you a stainless steel professional model unless you have previous Rolex purchase history with them. And the rest of the points on the sales matrix. Non WOS Group UK Rolex ADs do it differently.

So it is useful to me. I learned something.

Paul Thorpe was a Rolex dealer with years of experience and I find his videos entertaining and useful. He is not right with all his predictions but who is? Of course when you see the expertise and brainpower on display by posters on these boards it is clear they have nothing to learn from an experienced retired Rolex dealer such as Mr Thorpe. After all what would someone who made a very good living from selling Rolexes for years have to teach people who post on a Rolex message board?

Agree with your comments , well said