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pythagor · 19 March 2017, 12:12 PM

So I'm a couple of months away from buying my first "real" watch. The watch I wanted was the the no date sub but everything changed. I tried on the black bay black and the pelagos, and I have to say those are two great looking pieces. I really like the dial on the pelagos. The square indices are my favorite part. The black bay is also a beautiful watch.

I definitely will buy the Rolex way down the road.
For now, I think it will be the black pelagos.

The price at the local AD is $1,000 more than online (Jomashop, Watchmax). Is the factory warranty worth the extra grand?

Craigdwh · 19 March 2017, 10:34 PM

You know the answer.

Buy pre owned from a trusted seller here on TRF. You will save more then a $1000 off MSRP and most likely be able to find a late model with the majority of warranty remaining.

I have a Black Bay love it to bits.

Psmith · 20 March 2017, 09:27 PM

Welcome

Of those two, I much prefer the Pelagos

Etschell · 21 March 2017, 12:39 AM

http://www.watchrecon.com/?query=tudor+bnib

you can get warranty and $1k off from trusted sellers. stay away from jomashop.

X JBM X · 21 March 2017, 04:39 AM

These guys have already pointed you in the right direction.

Both are phenomenal watches - you can't go wrong either way.

pythagor · 21 March 2017, 10:20 AM

Thanks guys. Great advise.

tudorbaja27 · 30 April 2018, 10:01 AM

I used the services of DavidSW to get my (then-new) Burgundy Black Bay. Couldn't be happier - and as someone said above, you can get the warranty card and $1k off from trusted sellers here. I went with the BBR as my wrists aren't that huge - and I prefer the classier look since I tend to wear suits often.

otherminds · 1 May 2018, 04:11 AM

Black bay all the way! And I now own three “real” watches, each purchased from trusted sellers here!

FiguredMaple · 3 May 2018, 04:49 AM

I was wondering the same thing until I found this well done review:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=447060

Urosfan · 3 May 2018, 10:35 AM

I like the blackbay

SoCal_Batman · 6 May 2018, 04:10 PM

I’m a fan of the Black Bay, love the vintage / modern styling combo! I have the M79730 incoming this week. Either way, you can’t go wrong!

Kevin of Larchmont · 8 July 2018, 01:55 PM

Pelagos all the way. Nothing else like it. There's a whole bunch of Black Bays just like the Black Bay.

MordinSolus · 8 July 2018, 03:30 PM

I bought a pre-owned Black Bay from Govberg last year and I was very pleased with them. I've been in contact with them since then about some different watches and they are always great to work with. I also have used DavidSW and I was very impressed. I would recommend looking at both of them.

rudestew · 8 July 2018, 05:31 PM

Black bay is closer to the sub , pelagos is a real tool watch and can be a bit limited as the bb can be worn in almost all occasions .

jojo0908 · 9 July 2018, 02:16 AM

i like black day

The Athenian · 18 July 2018, 11:25 PM

This is my 1st post in the forum as I've just registered.

There is no simple answer to what you are asking. First of all, have you tried both watches in your wrist? That will give you a good idea on wich watch feels nicer...

Furthermore, the BB is a Steel watch, the Pelagos is made of Titanium and although that material has tons of benefits (lighter, hypoalergenic, etc) it comes also with some disadvantages, especially the non-hardened Ti that Tudor uses: it sratches very easily and it is slightly more difficult to polish than a steel watch.

Also, the BB is substantially cheaper and more popular, that means that it will probably retain value a little better. The BB is extremelly versatile, like the Submariner. The Pelagos is more of a toolwatch, you cannot use it with formal atire. The Pelagos has far better water resistance, much better Lume and a fantastic lumed ceramic bezel (vs aluminum on the BB). The clasp on the Pelagos is superior as it uses springs to compensate for wrist variations due to temperature.

As you can see, there are many factors to consider while buying your 1st luxury piece. Personaly I would go for the pelagos LHD as I like more the color and I believe is more unique (+ I am a Divemaster so I love the toolwatch approach). However I have already a Sub and an Explorer II, this would also make my decision easier. To be honest, my next buy will probably be the BB Heritage Chrono because it is quirky. Whatever you decide, good luck and I really hope you will enjoy it for many years. I salute you.

bdex75 · 18 July 2018, 11:50 PM

Have both and both have their merits.

If it were my only watch I would go with the BB. And probably the eta black bay. And probably the black eta black bay.

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DonBateman · 2 August 2018, 01:02 PM

I like the B.B.

Jrfiiiesq · 23 August 2018, 02:28 AM

I own a Black Bay 41 as well as the Tudor Pelagos with ETA movement. I love both but I think the bracelet of the Pelagos gives it the edge slightly.

Stratos · 23 August 2018, 10:48 PM

Had both BB and Pelagos.
Both of them with the ETA movement.

Nowadays I wear a 114060.
So I believe that I have been there already for you.

Pelagos is hands down the best watch I ever had.
It is one of the best diver watches out there and it has crazy VFM.
If you could have a pre-owned Pelagos with the ETA movement in fair price, do not hesitate.

Rocket launcher · 24 August 2018, 06:17 AM

I have a BB red eta superb watch however I was out the other night and notices someone wearing a

Pelagos blue...the watch to be noticed with
Its superb...and may be worth you looking at there is nothing else like it and a definite alternative to the watches above

CapeCodeRolex · 24 August 2018, 12:53 PM

I'm much more partial to a pelages. Super comfortable, and flies under the radar.

StevePCTech · 25 August 2018, 12:11 AM

I almost got a new Pelagos blue but that soft titanium was the deal killer. I vote BB.

jacobs · 7 October 2018, 12:24 AM

Both a great watches, but still recommend BB :P

Jcp2448 · 7 October 2018, 01:06 AM

I have a pelagos and I'm very happy, it comes with the Bracelet and the rubber band with the extension.

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andrewjb88 · 7 October 2018, 01:09 AM

Bb 58

alonzo · 13 October 2018, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etschell

http://www.watchrecon.com/?query=tudor+bnib

you can get warranty and $1k off from trusted sellers. stay away from jomashop.

Hi,
Interesting - why not Jomashop?

Thank you

q8rolex · 13 October 2018, 06:08 AM

love the BB GMT!

Etschell · 13 October 2018, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alonzo

Hi,
Interesting - why not Jomashop?

Thank you

no warranty

Kgoosej · 18 October 2018, 11:00 PM

TRF trusted sellers offer phenomenal deals and they are far superior to grey market.
But no one mentions the other two benefits of purchasing from an AD:
-Getting an appraisal for insurance, and
-establishing a relationship with an AD.

The second one isn’t guaranteed, but the benefits are obvious.

19 March 2017, 12:12 PM	#1
pythagor "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pomona, NY Posts: 3	Tudor Pelagos or Black Bay So I'm a couple of months away from buying my first "real" watch. The watch I wanted was the the no date sub but everything changed. I tried on the black bay black and the pelagos, and I have to say those are two great looking pieces. I really like the dial on the pelagos. The square indices are my favorite part. The black bay is also a beautiful watch. I definitely will buy the Rolex way down the road. For now, I think it will be the black pelagos. The price at the local AD is $1,000 more than online (Jomashop, Watchmax). Is the factory warranty worth the extra grand?

19 March 2017, 10:34 PM	#2
Craigdwh "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Real Name: Craig Location: Winnipeg, MB Watch: Breguet Type XXI Posts: 500	You know the answer. Buy pre owned from a trusted seller here on TRF. You will save more then a $1000 off MSRP and most likely be able to find a late model with the majority of warranty remaining. I have a Black Bay love it to bits. Last edited by Craigdwh; 19 March 2017 at 10:34 PM.. Reason: grammar

20 March 2017, 09:27 PM	#3
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Welcome Of those two, I much prefer the Pelagos __________________

21 March 2017, 12:39 AM	#4
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	http://www.watchrecon.com/?query=tudor+bnib you can get warranty and $1k off from trusted sellers. stay away from jomashop. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

21 March 2017, 04:39 AM	#5
X JBM X 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Jesse Location: Boston Watch: dealer's choice Posts: 1,682	These guys have already pointed you in the right direction. Both are phenomenal watches - you can't go wrong either way. __________________ follow me on instagram @road_and_wrist

21 March 2017, 10:20 AM	#6
pythagor "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pomona, NY Posts: 3	Thanks guys. Great advise.

30 April 2018, 10:01 AM	#7
tudorbaja27 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Miami, FL Watch: Tudor & Cartier Posts: 2,499	I used the services of DavidSW to get my (then-new) Burgundy Black Bay. Couldn't be happier - and as someone said above, you can get the warranty card and $1k off from trusted sellers here. I went with the BBR as my wrists aren't that huge - and I prefer the classier look since I tend to wear suits often.

1 May 2018, 04:11 AM	#8
otherminds 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 89	Black bay all the way! And I now own three “real” watches, each purchased from trusted sellers here!

3 May 2018, 04:49 AM	#9
FiguredMaple "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 174	I was wondering the same thing until I found this well done review: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=447060

3 May 2018, 10:35 AM	#10
Urosfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NYC Watch: Me now Posts: 19,349	I like the blackbay

6 May 2018, 04:10 PM	#11
SoCal_Batman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: C.R. Location: Los Angeles Watch: ♛ BLNR \| AK Posts: 1,029	I’m a fan of the Black Bay, love the vintage / modern styling combo! I have the M79730 incoming this week. Either way, you can’t go wrong! __________________ "The more I see, the less I know for sure." - John Lennon

8 July 2018, 01:55 PM	#12
Kevin of Larchmont 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: The Ice House Watch: Ingersoll Mickey Posts: 3,324	Pelagos all the way. Nothing else like it. There's a whole bunch of Black Bays just like the Black Bay.

8 July 2018, 03:30 PM	#13
MordinSolus "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 53	I bought a pre-owned Black Bay from Govberg last year and I was very pleased with them. I've been in contact with them since then about some different watches and they are always great to work with. I also have used DavidSW and I was very impressed. I would recommend looking at both of them.

8 July 2018, 05:31 PM	#14
rudestew "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: UK Bristol Watch: DSSD SD43 Mk1 50TH Posts: 1,247	Black bay is closer to the sub , pelagos is a real tool watch and can be a bit limited as the bb can be worn in almost all occasions .

9 July 2018, 02:16 AM	#15
jojo0908 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: hong kong Posts: 6	i like black day

18 July 2018, 11:25 PM	#16
The Athenian "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Germany Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 10	This is my 1st post in the forum as I've just registered. There is no simple answer to what you are asking. First of all, have you tried both watches in your wrist? That will give you a good idea on wich watch feels nicer... Furthermore, the BB is a Steel watch, the Pelagos is made of Titanium and although that material has tons of benefits (lighter, hypoalergenic, etc) it comes also with some disadvantages, especially the non-hardened Ti that Tudor uses: it sratches very easily and it is slightly more difficult to polish than a steel watch. Also, the BB is substantially cheaper and more popular, that means that it will probably retain value a little better. The BB is extremelly versatile, like the Submariner. The Pelagos is more of a toolwatch, you cannot use it with formal atire. The Pelagos has far better water resistance, much better Lume and a fantastic lumed ceramic bezel (vs aluminum on the BB). The clasp on the Pelagos is superior as it uses springs to compensate for wrist variations due to temperature. As you can see, there are many factors to consider while buying your 1st luxury piece. Personaly I would go for the pelagos LHD as I like more the color and I believe is more unique (+ I am a Divemaster so I love the toolwatch approach). However I have already a Sub and an Explorer II, this would also make my decision easier. To be honest, my next buy will probably be the BB Heritage Chrono because it is quirky. Whatever you decide, good luck and I really hope you will enjoy it for many years. I salute you.

18 July 2018, 11:50 PM	#17
bdex75 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Brandon Location: Indianapolis Watch: my money vanish Posts: 8,506	Have both and both have their merits. If it were my only watch I would go with the BB. And probably the eta black bay. And probably the black eta black bay. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

2 August 2018, 01:02 PM	#18
DonBateman Banned Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: IL Watch: I like watch Posts: 753	I like the B.B.

23 August 2018, 02:28 AM	#19
Jrfiiiesq "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NJ Watch: 214270 MK1 Posts: 4	I own a Black Bay 41 as well as the Tudor Pelagos with ETA movement. I love both but I think the bracelet of the Pelagos gives it the edge slightly.

23 August 2018, 10:48 PM	#20
Stratos "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Stratos Location: Thessaloniki, GR Watch: 114060 Posts: 223	Had both BB and Pelagos. Both of them with the ETA movement. Nowadays I wear a 114060. So I believe that I have been there already for you. Pelagos is hands down the best watch I ever had. It is one of the best diver watches out there and it has crazy VFM. If you could have a pre-owned Pelagos with the ETA movement in fair price, do not hesitate.

24 August 2018, 06:17 AM	#21
Rocket launcher Banned Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: England Posts: 989	I have a BB red eta superb watch however I was out the other night and notices someone wearing a Pelagos blue...the watch to be noticed with Its superb...and may be worth you looking at there is nothing else like it and a definite alternative to the watches above

24 August 2018, 12:53 PM	#22
CapeCodeRolex Banned Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: N.C. Watch: Rolex Posts: 42	I'm much more partial to a pelages. Super comfortable, and flies under the radar.

25 August 2018, 12:11 AM	#23
StevePCTech "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Hamilton, Ont. Watch: Omega Seamaster Posts: 1	I almost got a new Pelagos blue but that soft titanium was the deal killer. I vote BB.

7 October 2018, 12:24 AM	#24
jacobs Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Jakub Location: London Watch: Rolex 114060 Posts: 17	Both a great watches, but still recommend BB :P

7 October 2018, 01:06 AM	#25
Jcp2448 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Miramar Posts: 67	I have a pelagos and I'm very happy, it comes with the Bracelet and the rubber band with the extension. Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk

7 October 2018, 01:09 AM	#26
andrewjb88 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: United Kingdom Watch: 16302 Rolex OP Posts: 766	Bb 58 __________________ Rolex Datejust 16203 Omega Seamaster Professional 300m Tudor BB GMT Luch one hand

13 October 2018, 06:08 AM	#28
q8rolex "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: kuwait Posts: 270	love the BB GMT!

18 October 2018, 11:00 PM	#30
Kgoosej "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Colorado Watch: Pelagos LHD Posts: 8	TRF trusted sellers offer phenomenal deals and they are far superior to grey market. But no one mentions the other two benefits of purchasing from an AD: -Getting an appraisal for insurance, and -establishing a relationship with an AD. The second one isn’t guaranteed, but the benefits are obvious.

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