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View Poll Results: Which one ? (detail in the subject, gladly)
Rolex SD43 126600 22 66.67%
Panerai Radiomir Otto Giorni 1347 or 1348 11 33.33%
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Old 13 February 2024, 06:48 AM   #1
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Icon4 Rolex - Panerai, exchange or not ?

Hello,

Imagine you have a small collection, and this Rolex is the only one you are willing to part with.
The selection is made and you are attracted to this PAM.

Simple question: Rolex SD43 126600 versus Radiomir 1347/48, trade or not ?

I know they don't have much in common, but welcome your opinion...

The question is simple, but your answer can be very detailed.
Detailed opinion, why, how, etc.

The price difference in favor of one is not really at stake, let's say that it would not matter much.




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Old 13 February 2024, 08:01 AM   #2
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I love the 1347 and think its a reasonable idea you are proposing.
the secondary market on Rolex has come down for many models including yours because i had the very same one!
i found it to be a bit heavy on the wrist and i can tell you from trying on a 992, its super comfortable on the wrist!
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Old 13 February 2024, 08:08 AM   #3
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No I wouldn’t do this trade.
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Old 13 February 2024, 10:36 AM   #4
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The Sd 43 great diver! The two Panerai Radiomir's have amazing dials and just looking at these watches my pick Panerai!
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Old 13 February 2024, 03:15 PM   #5
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definitely not. i wouldnt let go of rolex for panerai
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Old 13 February 2024, 03:21 PM   #6
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Neither is difficult to come by (at least on the secondary market), so you could always require the Rolex.
Having said that, I own a 2017 SD43 and don’t ever plan on parting with it.
In this scenario, I think I’d just add the PAM, which is beautiful btw.
Good luck. Can’t go wrong with either dial.


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Old 13 February 2024, 10:03 PM   #7
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I own the SD43 and would never consider this trade. I also own the Panerai 992 which is very similar to the two watches you show from Panerai. I picked it up in the secondary market for less than half the retail of new and enjoy it but it is not a Rolex much less a SD43. If you want one of these watches find one in the secondary market and keep your SD43. Good luck.
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Old 14 February 2024, 12:57 AM   #8
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Neither is difficult to come by (at least on the secondary market), so you could always require the Rolex.
Having said that, I own a 2017 SD43 and don’t ever plan on parting with it.
In this scenario, I think I’d just add the PAM, which is beautiful btw.
Good luck. Can’t go wrong with either dial.
Yes, an SD43 will easily be found second hand (and cheaper than catalog from now on, as of today).
The Panerai 1348 is new last year, and with an annual quota of 800 pieces. In the gray market, Richemont also seems to have locked down a lot of possibilities for merchants... I think that in the future it will be easily found for one or the other anyway
The question of an addition does not arise, otherwise it would not be asked. It is indeed a sale of the Rolex to acquire the PAM, budgetary reason.
Thank you for your opinion.
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Old 14 February 2024, 12:58 AM   #9
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No I wouldn’t do this trade.

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definitely not. i wouldnt let go of rolex for panerai
Why ?
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Old 14 February 2024, 01:03 AM   #10
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I own the SD43 and would never consider this trade. I also own the Panerai 992 which is very similar to the two watches you show from Panerai. I picked it up in the secondary market for less than half the retail of new and enjoy it but it is not a Rolex much less a SD43. If you want one of these watches find one in the secondary market and keep your SD43. Good luck.

It's more than similar, it's the same watch I would say. Except that the case is not “burnito” treated, and that the dial and hands as well as the colors are different.

There are no 1347s or 1348s at half price at retail at the moment. The best you can get is a -15/20% on the gray market, but that seems quite complicated all the same. Richemont having pretty much locked all that down.

I note that the SD43 still seems above PAM to you, without further details unfortunately. Thank you for your opinion.
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Old 14 February 2024, 01:44 AM   #11
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Any chance you can just add the Panerai to see if you gel with it?
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Old 14 February 2024, 06:58 AM   #12
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No way I would trade the SD for that Panerai. Both Rolex and Panerai watches are special and both need too be in any collection, especially the SD. Just my 2 cents.
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Honestly, I don't get the desire to own multiple Rolex watches UNLESS you're after incremental complications (e.g. a GMT and a Sky Dweller). Owning a GMT (116710LN) I decided to picked up a DSSD that I quickly moved the DSSD and bought a PAM627.

I now have 2 watches that definitely don't share the same aesthetic (like most Rolex models do, good or bad) and am more than happy in wearing either depending on the mood that hits. I'd only add another Rolex if it was a SS Sky Dweller picked up at retail, but that hasn't happened yet; when it does the GMT will go and the PAM will stay.

So, the above said, if I had more than 1 Rolex in the stable I would move the least preferred model and upgrade that model to a PAM of choice. For me it was the PAM627, for you it might be the model in the poll.
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Why ?
Watch is movement first. Pams are pretty but their engines are sorely lacking. Maybe even more costly in the long run

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Old 14 February 2024, 11:09 PM   #15
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Honestly, I don't get the desire to own multiple Rolex watches UNLESS you're after incremental complications (e.g. a GMT and a Sky Dweller). Owning a GMT (116710LN) I decided to picked up a DSSD that I quickly moved the DSSD and bought a PAM627.

I now have 2 watches that definitely don't share the same aesthetic (like most Rolex models do, good or bad) and am more than happy in wearing either depending on the mood that hits. I'd only add another Rolex if it was a SS Sky Dweller picked up at retail, but that hasn't happened yet; when it does the GMT will go and the PAM will stay.

So, the above said, if I had more than 1 Rolex in the stable I would move the least preferred model and upgrade that model to a PAM of choice. For me it was the PAM627, for you it might be the model in the poll.
Everyone has their own point of view, and thank you for yours.
I think that sharing aesthetics is a strength, because they remain different despite everything.
Nothing is identical between a GMT or Explorer II for example despite the similar complication, nothing is identical between a Sub or Sea-Dweller despite the fact that they are two divers, not to mention that the variation can also be in the materials (have the pleasure of having the steel version, and in gold or two-tone, not really the same thing either in rendering and wear).

So I chose the one that I would be ready to part with for a favorite PAM, the others are excluded and I find pleasure there and lots of differences as explained.
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Old 14 February 2024, 11:15 PM   #16
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Watch is movement first. Pams are pretty but their engines are sorely lacking. Maybe even more costly in the long run

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To my knowledge, the P.5000 is a robust movement, not suffering from any major problems, with two barrels even offering, according to feedback, a power reserve a little greater than the 8 days announced.
It does not cost a fortune to service or maintain due to its simplicity and low volume of components.

According to your, do you have any other information or defects noted for this caliber? Thanks in advance for lightening
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Everyone has their own point of view, and thank you for yours.
I think that sharing aesthetics is a strength, because they remain different despite everything.
Nothing is identical between a GMT or Explorer II for example despite the similar complication, nothing is identical between a Sub or Sea-Dweller despite the fact that they are two divers, not to mention that the variation can also be in the materials (have the pleasure of having the steel version, and in gold or two-tone, not really the same thing either in rendering and wear).

So I chose the one that I would be ready to part with for a favorite PAM, the others are excluded and I find pleasure there and lots of differences as explained.
True, YMMV, me I'd rather take the funds spent on incrementally similar products (from the same brand) and travel

Or, rather, my wife would like me to do this

Whatever you chose, wear it in good health
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The SD43 is too good to leave.
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Old 16 February 2024, 02:05 AM   #19
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I have the SD43 and PAM1349, they both are very different. Hard to give advise without knowing what else you have. I love both for different reasons and wear them for different occasions.
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Old 16 February 2024, 04:32 PM   #20
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I would NEVER trade a Rolex for Panerai (and I have 7 Panerais)

Just try trading a Panerai for a Rolex in today's market and see how that goes.
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Old 17 February 2024, 08:14 PM   #21
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We can see that this is central for most opinions and people while watchmaking is above all a pleasure or a passion.

Watches seem to mean nothing but money for most...
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