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bogo · 2 January 2015, 03:14 AM

Looking to purchase a Snowflake while I am here in HK. Stopped by the http://www.thevintageconcept.com/ in Central and saw 2 watches both one 7021/0 and a 9411/0 you can see them here.

http://www.thevintageconcept.com/ind...roduct_id=1502

and here

http://www.thevintageconcept.com/ind...roduct_id=1554

asking price was around 5800 USD for the 7021/0 and 5100 USD for the 9411/0.

Thoughts? No papers/box, but I have heard The Vintage Concept guys are good and the sales woman seemed honest. Lugs looked alright to me.

Going to Mongkok tomorrow to browse some more dealers.
Any input on the watches (or dealers to visit in HK) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and Happy 2015!

Lgear080 · 2 January 2015, 04:06 AM

I'd try to go home w the first for $5300usd or the latter fort $4800. I don't think the insert
On the first is original. Is either case particularly sharper? Stronger bevel? What bracelets?
Both are quite nice.

bogo · 2 January 2015, 10:12 AM

I thought the same thing about the Bezel insert when I saw it in person, looked a little out of place compared to the rest of the watch. Both had 9315 bracelets I believe. Will take a look again today.

linesiders · 2 January 2015, 10:50 AM

First insert looks to be a mid font insert probably replaced at service / or just what was available in blue.

Second insert is SWEEEET

So - 7021: + Roulette Date Wheel ') // 9411 - + Killer insert ;)

Get them to put the 9411 insert on the 7021

V.lats97nsx · 2 January 2015, 11:18 AM

They both look good. Im not sure about the insert on the 7016. I love the 9411 lugs look strong and crown guard looks unpolished. I would go with the 9411. I think the price is good also. Most sellers are asking over 6 for this kind of example.

Old Expat Beast · 2 January 2015, 11:24 AM

Go to Mongkok first, or rather Yau Ma Tei (specifically Kwong Wah Street). Vintage Concept have a branch there, too, and there are about a dozen other shops with more moderate prices.

rockmastermike · 2 January 2015, 11:38 AM

Apologies for the thread jack - in general can Tudor be shipped into the US or are they under the Rolex import rules?

Thank you

linesiders · 2 January 2015, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockmastermike

Apologies for the thread jack - in general can Tudor be shipped into the US or are they under the Rolex import rules?

Thank you

They are supposedly under the same rules - though I have gotten 3 from overseas, 2 Subs and a RANGER.

V.lats97nsx · 2 January 2015, 01:23 PM

I now understand the 9411 price. Side picture of case shows a big dent. Its been polished but still very visible.

rockmastermike · 2 January 2015, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linesiders

They are supposedly under the same rules - though I have gotten 3 from overseas, 2 Subs and a RANGER.

Thanks

Old Expat Beast · 2 January 2015, 04:29 PM

Also, there is a monthly vintage watch show in the basement at the Holiday In Golden Mile on Nathan Road today and tomorrow. Quite a few local and regional sellers there, and it can be a good place to buy if you know what you're looking for. Starts around 11am. Definitely worth a look. I usually go.

Old Expat Beast · 2 January 2015, 08:40 PM

I was under the impression that there is no similar restriction on Tudor trademark imports to the US.

Edit. Sorry, I failed to quote post #7 above.

bogo · 2 January 2015, 09:27 PM

Update on the situation team: Went to their other watch shop in Mongkok and saw a bunch of their Snowflakes but not of them were quite up to my liking. Also checked out London Watch and they had a claimed USAF Snowflake, but no decom papers or any provenance. They also seemed hesitant to really talk to me (might have been my lack of Canto skills) so my gut told me to walk.
Hit up the Holiday Inn basement and most of the shops were on a lunch break
Also walked around TST but could not find any great shop to browse at of note. End up going back to Central and bought the 7021 and got them to switch the ghost bezel insert for me. they are going to add a link for the bracelet and got them to throw in a grey nato as well to match the ghost grey insert. Going to take it to RSC in Shanghai when I go there.

I get to pick it up tomorrow and I am so excited. Also in my excitement totally forgot to take a photo of it.

Excited to share it with you tomorrow.

Thanks to all.

Old Expat Beast · 2 January 2015, 10:11 PM

RSC in Hong Kong is only a 10 minute walk from Vintage Concept in Central, and is about half the price of USA RSCs for servicing. They only open monday to friday though.

linesiders · 2 January 2015, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogo

Update on the situation team: Went to their other watch shop in Mongkok and saw a bunch of their Snowflakes but not of them were quite up to my liking. Also checked out London Watch and they had a claimed USAF Snowflake, but no decom papers or any provenance. They also seemed hesitant to really talk to me (might have been my lack of Canto skills) so my gut told me to walk.
Hit up the Holiday Inn basement and most of the shops were on a lunch break
Also walked around TST but could not find any great shop to browse at of note. End up going back to Central and bought the 7021 and got them to switch the ghost bezel insert for me. they are going to add a link for the bracelet and got them to throw in a grey nato as well to match the ghost grey insert. Going to take it to RSC in Shanghai when I go there.

I get to pick it up tomorrow and I am so excited. Also in my excitement totally forgot to take a photo of it.

Excited to share it with you tomorrow.

Thanks to all.

Excellent - look forward to photos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I was under the impression that there is no similar restriction on Tudor trademark imports to the US.

Edit. Sorry, I failed to quote post #7 above.

That would be interesting to know. I recall a conversation on VRF that stated both fell under same rule. Would love to hear different ;)

Lgear080 · 3 January 2015, 12:35 AM

Absolute best of both worlds. Very interested in seeing the outcome!

So what pr?

cchen · 3 January 2015, 10:36 PM

Congrats. I should have posted this earlier but maybe you would have liked this example as well:

http://10pastten.com/watch/ta723

bogo · 4 January 2015, 03:40 PM

Sorry for the size of the shots - imgur doesn't resize them...

Super excited and will definitely post more pictures soon.

I would also like to thank all of you guys for the comments and help - it was a bit nerve racking dropping that coin on a vintage piece where language was a barrier.

First vintage piece, definitely bitten by the bug.

linesiders · 5 January 2015, 01:02 AM

Faded Tudors hail "Welcome Aboard"

Lgear080 · 5 January 2015, 04:39 AM

Wow! Looks awesome

Ross Povey · 5 January 2015, 04:41 AM

Amazing - great work! I love a faded snowy - here are couple of Blue MilSubs that say hi...

Argentinian:

French:

Jamaican:

lhanddds · 5 January 2015, 05:20 AM

^ beauties Ross

RLX-lvr · 5 January 2015, 06:04 AM

Wow. Nice 7021.

You got a really nice watch there! Sweet find.
That insert is killer, as well as the case.

All around great score.

John in MA · 8 January 2015, 12:27 AM

Excellent score.
Welcome to the club.

2 January 2015, 03:14 AM	#1
bogo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: Bobby Location: San Francisco Posts: 32	Tudor Snowflake advice Looking to purchase a Snowflake while I am here in HK. Stopped by the http://www.thevintageconcept.com/ in Central and saw 2 watches both one 7021/0 and a 9411/0 you can see them here. http://www.thevintageconcept.com/ind...roduct_id=1502 and here http://www.thevintageconcept.com/ind...roduct_id=1554 asking price was around 5800 USD for the 7021/0 and 5100 USD for the 9411/0. Thoughts? No papers/box, but I have heard The Vintage Concept guys are good and the sales woman seemed honest. Lugs looked alright to me. Going to Mongkok tomorrow to browse some more dealers. Any input on the watches (or dealers to visit in HK) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and Happy 2015!

2 January 2015, 10:50 AM	#4
linesiders 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,485	First insert looks to be a mid font insert probably replaced at service / or just what was available in blue. Second insert is SWEEEET So - 7021: + Roulette Date Wheel ') // 9411 - + Killer insert ;) Get them to put the 9411 insert on the 7021 __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

5 January 2015, 01:02 AM	#19
linesiders 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,485	Faded Tudors hail "Welcome Aboard" __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

5 January 2015, 04:41 AM	#21
Ross Povey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: UK Posts: 125	Amazing - great work! I love a faded snowy - here are couple of Blue MilSubs that say hi... Argentinian: French: Jamaican: __________________ www.tudorcollector.net

8 January 2015, 12:27 AM	#24
John in MA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 862	Excellent score. Welcome to the club. __________________ Formerly John in SC and John in TN How To: Remove a Tudor Pelagos Endlink in 60 Seconds or Less

2 January 2015, 04:06 AM	#2
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	I'd try to go home w the first for $5300usd or the latter fort $4800. I don't think the insert On the first is original. Is either case particularly sharper? Stronger bevel? What bracelets? Both are quite nice.

2 January 2015, 10:12 AM	#3
bogo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: Bobby Location: San Francisco Posts: 32	I thought the same thing about the Bezel insert when I saw it in person, looked a little out of place compared to the rest of the watch. Both had 9315 bracelets I believe. Will take a look again today.

2 January 2015, 11:18 AM	#5
V.lats97nsx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Syracuse Posts: 4,059	They both look good. Im not sure about the insert on the 7016. I love the 9411 lugs look strong and crown guard looks unpolished. I would go with the 9411. I think the price is good also. Most sellers are asking over 6 for this kind of example.

2 January 2015, 11:24 AM	#6
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,731	Go to Mongkok first, or rather Yau Ma Tei (specifically Kwong Wah Street). Vintage Concept have a branch there, too, and there are about a dozen other shops with more moderate prices.

2 January 2015, 11:38 AM	#7
rockmastermike 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: GA Watch: 1982 16750 Posts: 4,330	Apologies for the thread jack - in general can Tudor be shipped into the US or are they under the Rolex import rules? Thank you

2 January 2015, 01:23 PM	#9
V.lats97nsx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Syracuse Posts: 4,059	I now understand the 9411 price. Side picture of case shows a big dent. Its been polished but still very visible.

2 January 2015, 04:29 PM	#11
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,731	Also, there is a monthly vintage watch show in the basement at the Holiday In Golden Mile on Nathan Road today and tomorrow. Quite a few local and regional sellers there, and it can be a good place to buy if you know what you're looking for. Starts around 11am. Definitely worth a look. I usually go.

2 January 2015, 08:40 PM	#12
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,731	I was under the impression that there is no similar restriction on Tudor trademark imports to the US. Edit. Sorry, I failed to quote post #7 above.

2 January 2015, 09:27 PM	#13
bogo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: Bobby Location: San Francisco Posts: 32	Update on the situation team: Went to their other watch shop in Mongkok and saw a bunch of their Snowflakes but not of them were quite up to my liking. Also checked out London Watch and they had a claimed USAF Snowflake, but no decom papers or any provenance. They also seemed hesitant to really talk to me (might have been my lack of Canto skills) so my gut told me to walk. Hit up the Holiday Inn basement and most of the shops were on a lunch break Also walked around TST but could not find any great shop to browse at of note. End up going back to Central and bought the 7021 and got them to switch the ghost bezel insert for me. they are going to add a link for the bracelet and got them to throw in a grey nato as well to match the ghost grey insert. Going to take it to RSC in Shanghai when I go there. I get to pick it up tomorrow and I am so excited. Also in my excitement totally forgot to take a photo of it. Excited to share it with you tomorrow. Thanks to all.

2 January 2015, 10:11 PM	#14
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,731	RSC in Hong Kong is only a 10 minute walk from Vintage Concept in Central, and is about half the price of USA RSCs for servicing. They only open monday to friday though.

3 January 2015, 12:35 AM	#16
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Absolute best of both worlds. Very interested in seeing the outcome! So what pr?

3 January 2015, 10:36 PM	#17
cchen "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: NYC / HKG / LON Watch: Chronometre Bleu Posts: 15	Congrats. I should have posted this earlier but maybe you would have liked this example as well: http://10pastten.com/watch/ta723

4 January 2015, 03:40 PM	#18
bogo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: Bobby Location: San Francisco Posts: 32	Sorry for the size of the shots - imgur doesn't resize them... Super excited and will definitely post more pictures soon. I would also like to thank all of you guys for the comments and help - it was a bit nerve racking dropping that coin on a vintage piece where language was a barrier. First vintage piece, definitely bitten by the bug.

5 January 2015, 04:39 AM	#20
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Wow! Looks awesome

5 January 2015, 05:20 AM	#22
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	^ beauties Ross

5 January 2015, 06:04 AM	#23
RLX-lvr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Toronto Posts: 1,947	Wow. Nice 7021. You got a really nice watch there! Sweet find. That insert is killer, as well as the case. All around great score.

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