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Old 27 December 2023, 12:13 AM   #1
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Code 11.59 15210ST/26393ST worth it?

Hey folks,

Trying to determine my asks for next year and looking for some insight.

I've been advised that it may be helpful to potentially add a Code to my collection (between my wife and I we currently have 4 AP).

I've looked at the codes a few times in person and while I like the details, I am not sure I can totally buy into the value prop. It's not a dress watch really (too thick), it's not a sports watch (water resistance). No quick change straps and seemingly not great choices.

The three-hander is a bit bland IMO. Plus if I wanted to have a round steel sports watch, I already own an FXD and a vintage Rolex 16710.

Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind owning a green code Chrono but at $~35k for a 26393 I may as well be getting a new grey 126500 Daytona WITH a bracelet as the arguably most iconic watch for all occasions....


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Old 27 December 2023, 12:53 AM   #2
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All depends what you are after. Adding the code gets you a grail piece or something you want from AP?
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Old 27 December 2023, 01:22 AM   #3
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I have the steel chrono in blue and love it. Wouldn’t trade it for a Daytona ever (just look at the movement…).

I personally find the 3 hander a bit boring as well, though the guillochage dial makes it significantly more interesting than the previous laquered dials.

That said I’d never buy a watch I don’t really love so probably you shouldn’t either.
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Old 27 December 2023, 01:28 AM   #4
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All depends what you are after. Adding the code gets you a grail piece or something you want from AP?

I'm looking to add a 16202 to my collection so it'll probably get me closer / there. Still quite a ways away from a CE I think...

However, just not sure I can make the mental hurdle jump in getting something that's like a bit of a weird in-betweener...
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Old 27 December 2023, 01:31 AM   #5
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Don’t buy it thinking you need to. That’s BS. You’re already a good customer.
Only buy it if you love it. The code was my 6th ap after 3 royal oaks and 2 offshores- didn’t help me get anything.
I love the watch
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Old 27 December 2023, 01:52 AM   #6
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I really like the beige 3 hander - ceramic case is interesting and the smoke adds something extra to the dial. It’s very comfortable, gets more wear than my Daytona. IMG_2968.jpeg
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Old 27 December 2023, 02:20 AM   #7
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I have two and if I had to go down to one, I would keep the three hander. It’s very unique and different from everything else out there. I will always have one in my collection.


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Old 27 December 2023, 02:45 AM   #8
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I love mine… but buy only if you really want it.
It’s a perfect everyday watch. Not a sport model.


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Old 27 December 2023, 03:47 AM   #9
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Personally love the new SS codes. I have divers for swimming and I’m pretty good with a strap changing tool so your cons don’t really apply to me. Case, dial, and crystal design on these codes are bringing a fresh change to AP when you have a bunch of keyboard warriors saying the brand has become a one trick pony without actually paying attention to complications, crazy world these days.
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Old 27 December 2023, 04:10 AM   #10
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I picked up my Code Steel and Ceramic Chronograph 10 days ago and I'm absolutely in love with it. I highly recommend it, the new dials is beautiful and the steel and ceramic specifically to me wears so comfortably. This is a high end, haute horology chronograph and it shows. This is my 3rd AP, FWIW.

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Old 27 December 2023, 04:12 AM   #11
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Definitely very good looking watch
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Old 27 December 2023, 04:54 AM   #12
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Here’s a pic from my Bleu Nuit chrono. But honestly pics never capture the essence of this watch.

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Old 27 December 2023, 06:53 AM   #13
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Darn it - this is definitely not working out the way I had expected it to LOL...

You guys are enablers par excellence... That said keep 'em coming, starting to love the pictures
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Old 27 December 2023, 06:54 AM   #14
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Code 11.59 15210ST/26393ST worth it?

Just buy the jumbo grey - prices have come down a lot. Why buy another watch in the hopes of getting what you want when you can just buy what you want grey.

Prices have materially come down so folks need to think about this option as it’s financially viable again.

If the “journey” is important to you and you like the code, then by all means, get a code and continue your journey towards a jumbo

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Old 27 December 2023, 07:46 AM   #15
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Just buy the jumbo grey - prices have come down a lot. Why buy another watch in the hopes of getting what you want when you can just buy what you want grey.

Prices have materially come down so folks need to think about this option as it’s financially viable again.

If the “journey” is important to you and you like the code, then by all means, get a code and continue your journey towards a jumbo

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Thank you - you're definitely enabling. Congrats on the Starwheel, it really is something else!


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Old 27 December 2023, 07:55 AM   #16
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I really like the beige 3 hander - ceramic case is interesting and the smoke adds something extra to the dial. It’s very comfortable, gets more wear than my Daytona. Attachment 1409855
This watch is seriously growing on me.
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Old 27 December 2023, 07:59 AM   #17
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Same here. My next watch for sure
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Old 4 January 2024, 10:49 AM   #18
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Would the 26393ST in blue be available to first time buyers? Not sure how long the waiting list would be for the 15210ST or 26393ST.
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Old 4 January 2024, 06:21 PM   #19
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Would the 26393ST in blue be available to first time buyers? Not sure how long the waiting list would be for the 15210ST or 26393ST.
Both are doable for first time buyers. I'd expect some months of wait but nothing too long.
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Old 4 January 2024, 07:25 PM   #20
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picked up mine last year, gets a lot of wrist time... pretty much my daily
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Old 5 January 2024, 12:59 AM   #21
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Code 11.59 15210ST/26393ST worth it?

Being told to spend $35,000 on a watch you don’t want, just to have the opportunity to buy another watch that is $35,000, is insane. I refused to do it with AP when they played that game with me two years ago. The SA from AP Bal Harbor called me and offered a code. The one he wanted me to buy was something like $42,000. Told me it would also “help.” I literally burst out in laughter, as this was particularly right after the massive marketing flop of this joke watch. I asked him if he would spend $42,000 from his own personal funds on of all things anCODE “11:59”. He also laughed and tried to dance around the topic. I said no no no Harold you be honest with me. He said of course not. Told him I’d buy one when he bought one and we could have matching codes, until then, no code. We had a good laugh over this watch. Can’t believe people ACTUALLY buy it.

There’s a sucker born every minute, that the phrase?

The fact that a watch is forced on you is a real turn off. It’s like a woman who is totally into you- makes me think she’s low value and I don’t want her. I want the ones who are a challenge.


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Now if you REALLY want to get in good graces with your boutique and prove your passion and love for AP, I’d recommend you forget the CODE 11:59 and inquire to get on the list for the Millenary. I’d go Chrono personally but the three handed is nice as well, probably best to just tell your SA you’ll accept whatever comes first. A true representation of haute horlogerie and the pinnacle of what AP is capable of when they get their best minds into a room.





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Now if you REALLY want to get in good graces with your boutique and prove your passion and love for AP, I’d recommend you forget the CODE 11:59 and inquire to get on the list for the Millenary. I’d go Chrono personally but the three handed is nice as well, probably best to just tell your SA you’ll accept whatever comes first. A true representation of haute horlogerie and the pinnacle of what AP is capable of when they get their best minds into a room.





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Is that what you did? Refuse the code they were “making you buy” and get on the list for a millenary?


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Is that what you did? Refuse the code they were “making you buy” and get on the list for a millenary?


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I bought four Millenaries to prove to the SA I was worthy.


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I bought four Millenaries to prove to the SA I was worthy.


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Old 5 January 2024, 02:34 AM   #26
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Also have six limited edition Millenaries on preorder right now.


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That’s the phrase lol


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I'm looking to add a 16202 to my collection so it'll probably get me closer / there. Still quite a ways away from a CE I think...

However, just not sure I can make the mental hurdle jump in getting something that's like a bit of a weird in-betweener...
Just bought a mint 2023 16202 from a reseller for $65,000. So you might want to consider buying preowned rather than purchasing something you may not be in love with.
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How do I block Patekfinder? He seems to find a way to ruin all the good threads. DONT FEED THE TROLLS
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A true representation of haute horlogerie and the pinnacle of what AP is capable of when they get their best minds into a room.
I guess this counts as funny/clever. While some of the Millenary line may not be AP's finest work, the Frosted Gold Philosophique 77266OR/BC and openworked 15352OR are quite nice, and if I had some excess funds I'd be happy to add them to my collection.
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