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10 November 2006, 05:15 PM | #1 |
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Oysterquartz Day Date?
I was so shocked. I knew of the Oysterquartz Datejust and also the Oysterquartz case with a Oyster Perpetual movement, but I checked out that A and E website and saw an Oysterquartz Day Date??? Was this watch ever popular?
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sales were not great. Thermo-compensated watches made by Rolex: Caliber: Rolex 5035 (and 5055 for the Day-Date model) Technology: single 32 kHz crystal using the forced constant frequency (TCVCXO) method Annual accuracy: around ±60 seconds (Rolex has never stated an official accuracy specification.) Rate adjustable?: yes, via trimmer condenser (user adjustable) Watches that use this movement: Rolex Oyster-quartz (1977 to 2001) Note 1: We are unaware of any other watch using TCVCXO technology. Note 2: While discontinued, we have heard that Rolex plans to introduce a new quartz movement with update technology and perpetual calendar. More can Ref http://www.oysterquartz.net/ selected Grand Seiko quartz model Note 1: Seiko re-issued a limited edition of the "Astron" in 2000 that used a special version of the 9F movement that was rated to ± 2 seconds per year after ajustment. Note 2: The 9F movement is reportedly designed to run fifty years before it needs servicing. Note 3: Other Grand Seiko quartz models use the 8J movement. Even less is know about this movement. Source of information: Japanese retail sites And just a little bit more its possible that the new Oysterquartz could be reborn 2007 Basil Show. The Next Oysterquartz? In 2004, an Oysterquartz watch was offered at auction by Antiquorum that looked like an ordinary 17014 stainless model with the white gold bezel. Upon closer examination, however, it was clear this watch was something unique and many wondered if it was a genuine Rolex. There was no reference number on the back of the watch where one would expect to see it engraved on a typical Oysterquartz. And the watch contained a heretofore unheard of 23 jewel quartz movement marked "5335" with a date function that employed a perpetual calendar mechanism that could be completely adjusted using the crown. This mystery watch was never sold because it was pulled when Rolex told Antiquorum officials that it had been stolen from them. A civil lawsuit ensued in Switzerland between the owner of the watch and Rolex. Rolex lost this suit largely due to the testimony of former and current Rolex employees who testified that it was common practice for Rolex to dispose of prototype watches by giving them to employees. Also, the fact that Rolex had never reported the watch to the police as stolen didn't help their case. The publicity surrounding the trial served to confirm the authenticity and provenance of this watch and ensure its value as a collector's piece when it is eventually offered for sale again. Prototype Oysterquartz Day-Date Perpetual Calendar Thanks to a former Rolex insider (who no longer works for Rolex), I am able to confirm not only the existence of the Oysterquartz Perpetual Calendar, but give some details about this watch, which is without doubt the rarest Oysterquartz ever produced by Rolex. Approximately eleven prototype Oysterquartz Perpetual Calendar watches were produced. They were produced in Datejust and Day-Date versions. All prototypes were encased in 17014 SS cases with white gold bezels. No external reference numbers were engraved on the cases. The movement used in the Datejust model was designated the 5335 and had 23 jewels. The movement used in the Day-Date model was designated the 5355 and had 23 jewels. The movement is silent, with no audible tic (a marked difference from the original Oysterquartz). The perpetual calendar function of this watch was patented by Rolex: Swiss Patent number CH 672 222 G A3. Here is a photo of the 5335 movement used in the Oysterquartz Perpetual Calendar. Note the lack of a battery compartment. Also note the Rolex coronet on the gold battery contact. Now don't forget there are quite a lot of mechanical parts in a quartz analogue watch.The same drive train as the cal 3135 less the balance and escapement and main spring.Its main spring is the battery and escapement the quartz crystal. And the quartz movement is more expencive than its mechanical brother.
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I had a chance to pick up an YG OQ DD about 5 years ago when I just started collecting. I lost out on that one by a measly couple of hundred $$. Had I known then what I know now about them, I would have snapped it up.
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11 November 2006, 09:55 AM | #5 |
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I am a little confused about the perpetual calender feature and why 23 jewels in a quartz movement
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11 November 2006, 09:59 AM | #6 |
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FWIW....my OQ runs about +1 second per month. Not bad...even for a quartz.
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That's a beauty, Sam. You should take it for a ride more often.
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11 November 2006, 02:31 PM | #9 |
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quartz movement is what batteries? or wind up?
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11 November 2006, 02:34 PM | #10 |
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Quartz means there is actually a quartz crystal inside the watch which is powered by a small round button-size battery. This sets up a very high resonance or vibration which then sets the gears into motion.
In a Rolex OQ is a 11-jewelled quartz linked motor which runs the show. JJ
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Are they cheaper?
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11 November 2006, 02:38 PM | #12 |
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Oh yes, the Rolex OQ is definitely cheaper than most of the Perpetual ones.
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I figured, Next time I look at watches I gonna make sure it isnt quartz movement.
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I have an uneasy feeling of paying $500-1000 on any quartz watch. I mean I love the OQ case design but with a Rolex automatic heart in it.
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Rolex only made about 1000 Oysterquartz per year for 25 years....and stopped production around 2001 (K series). They're not necessarily cheaper than an oyster perpetual unless you find a real beat up specimen....otherwise, they might even be more pricey. I doubt you will be finding one at your local AD and if you do, you should snatch it up.
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Re: OQ
Well Mikey, here's an OP in a OQ case.
Model 1630 I disagree JJ, the OQ can be found quite easliy on ebay and various forum sales boards. But be careful. My OQ, fully serviced by RSC hasn't lost even one second in 6 months! Model 17000 John. |
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Now John not many of those around quite a rare sort after watch
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Thank you all for your comments.
Yes, the 1680 are quite rare, but not fetching quite as much as the 1530. Anyway, still a good one for the collection. John. |
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Dont forget there are a lot of mechanical parts in a Rolex analogue watch they use the same drive train and gears as its mechanical brother.Minus the balance and escapement and main spring, and cost more to produce than its mechanical brother.Just don't think of quartz movements being all the same cheap mass produced churned out by the thousand daily.And if Rolex does introduce the new quartz movement with the same perpetual calender feature as its mechanical brother.Thats where all the extra jewels come in,because it will work in the same manor as your mechanical watch
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John, thanks for sharing that rare piece. I understand the mechanics of the Rolex quartzmovement but wood to nails still a battery movement swiss or otherwise. I wouldn't pay $500 or $2000 for it, but I would wonder if the quartz movement could be switched out to install a Rolex auto mvmt.
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Bet you are still having nightmares from wearing that POS. 5 very cheap bottom range quartz movements bit of bling $15000 watch John.
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Padi, I agree it would have no resale value, but the rolex 1570 is like $1200 at least. I wish Rolex would continue to produce the OQ caseband because after you see so many Oyster cases the OQ caseband is so appealling.
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