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Old 3 September 2024, 07:49 AM   #1
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headed to UK next week. I was only able to get a price on sub date (126610ln), which is 15% more in UK vs US after currency conversion.
£9000 vs $10,250, excluding us sales tax.


Are all Rolexes listed at higher prices in UK vs US?

Thanks for the consideration.
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Old 3 September 2024, 08:11 AM   #2
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UK MSRP includes a 20% purchase tax (VAT).
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Old 3 September 2024, 08:36 AM   #3
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UK MSRP includes a 20% purchase tax (VAT).
And since Brexit, VAT refunds are not available.
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Old 3 September 2024, 09:07 AM   #4
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UK MSRP includes a 20% purchase tax (VAT).
Wow, I had no idea. That's crazy.
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Old 3 September 2024, 09:17 AM   #5
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Wow, I had no idea. That's crazy.

Not crazy to us Brits. What’s crazy to us; is each State decides on its own Sales Tax

It’s harsh that VAT is 20% though


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Old 3 September 2024, 09:23 AM   #6
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headed to UK next week. I was only able to get a price on sub date (126610ln), which is 15% more in UK vs US after currency conversion.
£9000 vs $10,250, excluding us sales tax.


Are all Rolexes listed at higher prices in UK vs US?

Thanks for the consideration.

124060 Sub ND £8050
126610LV Sub Date £9450
126610LN Sub Date £9000
126710 GMT Oyster £9450
126710 GMT Jubilee £9550


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Old 3 September 2024, 10:34 AM   #7
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Not crazy to us Brits. What’s crazy to us; is each State decides on its own Sales Tax

It’s harsh that VAT is 20% though


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Not just each state, each city and/or municipality and different still if incorporated or unincorporated. Often the tax rate can vary by zip code.

Now that’s crazy.
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Old 3 September 2024, 12:17 PM   #8
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The British pound is such a strong currency, the USD will never come close.
With the Vat of 20% this would not be a deal by any means.
Have great trip! You can always window shop.

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Old 3 September 2024, 02:44 PM   #9
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Because tax can’t be claimed back now for tourists when visiting the UK it would make no sense in purchasing anything from here unless that is you can score something that is out of reach in your own country.
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Old 3 September 2024, 04:25 PM   #10
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You couldn't get a new one at list anyway, would grey work for you?
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Old 3 September 2024, 06:04 PM   #11
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Wow, I had no idea. That's crazy.
Yeah. Imagine the jolt when it was first introduced, all be it at a lower rate, which I'm old enough to remember. Now all we need is import tariffs!
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Old 3 September 2024, 08:35 PM   #12
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I don't think that over the years we have found the US to be any cheaper than the UK.
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Old 4 September 2024, 05:04 AM   #13
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Wow, I had no idea. That's crazy.

We are taxed on everything here.

Work hard, pay 45 per cent on earnings over £125k.

Have a car? Pay 500 road tax for the privilege and pay 2.40 per gallon for the fuel on top of its purchase price.

Buy a million pound house , pay 40k stamp duty

Die and leave your assets to your family? Think again you will owe half the estate to the taxman.

Uk tax is in need of a massive rethink. And it’s going to get worse before it gets better under labour!

Probably don’t buy a new Rolex here although used can be ok depending where you look.


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Old 4 September 2024, 05:38 AM   #14
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We are taxed on everything here.

Work hard, pay 45 per cent on earnings over £125k.

Have a car? Pay 500 road tax for the privilege and pay 2.40 per gallon for the fuel on top of its purchase price.

Buy a million pound house , pay 40k stamp duty

Die and leave your assets to your family? Think again you will owe half the estate to the taxman.

Uk tax is in need of a massive rethink. And it’s going to get worse before it gets better under labour!

Probably don’t buy a new Rolex here although used can be ok depending where you look.


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Yes, but Kiers dad was a toolmaker. Don't forget that!
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Old 4 September 2024, 05:49 AM   #15
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Yes, but Kiers dad was a toolmaker. Don't forget that!
And time will tell if he made a tool
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Old 4 September 2024, 06:05 AM   #16
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And time will tell if he made a tool
Thank you both - nearly made me snort out my dinner.
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Yes, but Kiers dad was a toolmaker. Don't forget that!




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Old 4 September 2024, 07:18 AM   #18
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The British pound is such a strong currency, the USD will never come close.

Cheers

It’s apples and oranges. UK GDP and California GDP are more comparable to each other than US vs UK GDP.


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Have a car? Pay 500 road tax for the privilege and pay 2.40 per gallon for the fuel on top of its purchase price.

Only £500 VED? Some of you are getting off light!

I pay around £1.60 per litre for fuel which equates to north of £7 for a gallon, which is taxed three times: you pay income tax before you have the disposable net income to buy fuel, you pay fuel duty when you gas up, and VAT gets added to the total.

This is more by way of a statement than a complaint. I wouldn't do it if I couldn't afford it but I sure wish it cost less. I can remember my dad vowing he'd give up driving if petrol ever hit 50p a gallon (it did and he didn't).... happy memories.
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Only £500 VED? Some of you are getting off light!

I pay around £1.60 per litre for fuel which equates to north of £7 for a gallon, which is taxed three times: you pay income tax before you have the disposable net income to buy fuel, you pay fuel duty when you gas up, and VAT gets added to the total.

This is more by way of a statement than a complaint. I wouldn't do it if I couldn't afford it but I sure wish it cost less. I can remember my dad vowing he'd give up driving if petrol ever hit 50p a gallon (it did and he didn't).... happy memories.

Yep! UK is screwed. FUBAR to be sure.

Back to the question in the thread: OP you’re unlikely to find any Rolex bargains here in the UK just as I was unable to find any in SoCal last time I visited (my Son lives out there)

So have a fabulous visit to our small, massively overpopulated little island, and thank your lucky stars you can go back home soon after


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Only £500 VED? Some of you are getting off light!

I pay around £1.60 per litre for fuel which equates to north of £7 for a gallon, which is taxed three times: you pay income tax before you have the disposable net income to buy fuel, you pay fuel duty when you gas up, and VAT gets added to the total.

This is more by way of a statement than a complaint. I wouldn't do it if I couldn't afford it but I sure wish it cost less. I can remember my dad vowing he'd give up driving if petrol ever hit 50p a gallon (it did and he didn't).... happy memories.
Haha. My dad and his mate vowed to give drinking when beer hit £1 a pint. He hasn't done either!
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Old 4 September 2024, 07:33 PM   #22
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Only £500 VED? Some of you are getting off light!

I pay around £1.60 per litre for fuel which equates to north of £7 for a gallon, which is taxed three times: you pay income tax before you have the disposable net income to buy fuel, you pay fuel duty when you gas up, and VAT gets added to the total.

This is more by way of a statement than a complaint. I wouldn't do it if I couldn't afford it but I sure wish it cost less. I can remember my dad vowing he'd give up driving if petrol ever hit 50p a gallon (it did and he didn't).... happy memories.

Only ballpark figures for our US friends to understand, Haz.

But yep uk is in all kinds of financial trouble again. Makes me shudder to think about my pension etc once KS has finished.

But regarding the original question there are some great used watch dealers in the uk and I hope the OP has some success.


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Old 4 September 2024, 07:51 PM   #23
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Careful lads. U get thrown in prison in the UK for saying things like about the government! Or to think them!

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Old 5 September 2024, 01:49 PM   #24
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You couldn't get a new one at list anyway, would grey work for you?
Which grey dealers in Central London would you reco?
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