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DSplash · 15 October 2019, 08:10 PM

Hi all,

I « fell » on this 4100 that I find very appealing.
I only own a 15400 so vintage AP is new to me...
What to think of its condition? It looks pretty sharp to my eyes. Slight discoloration on the dial too near the center at 8
Any thoughts?

Thanks!

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DSplash · 17 October 2019, 01:58 AM

No opinions?

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Collector2019 · 17 October 2019, 05:30 AM

can't judge on condition as I am not expert, but i do like the look of it and I think it's worth picking

tcpx · 17 October 2019, 05:42 AM

IMO it has been polished at least twice (pretty apparent from the bezel and and case near the lug holes) but overall in decent shape for its age

If you like it and can pick up at a good price, go for it.

tonupbklyn · 17 October 2019, 05:47 AM

looks familiar...i’m getting the same model delivered tomorrow!

Ar_Mi · 17 October 2019, 06:31 AM

If you want an honest opinion brother, I think that the 4100 is a great watch. This particular one however seems to have been a bit over polished, and it has a significant amount of stretch in the bracelet, which on a RO is quite costly to fix.

tonupbklyn · 17 October 2019, 07:13 AM

u can tell by the uneven spacing of the hex bolts to the edge of the bezel where the brush/polish meet that the polish job wasn’t done as meticulously as it could’ve been.

that said, this model isn’t really a collector’s piece...they can be had at relatively great prices. if u like the watch, don’t worry about the less than spectacular refinishing...just wear/enjoy it!

personally, i really dig the reuthenium dial (the petite tapisserie over the grande), the original script and the gold hands+markers. matched against the TT case+bracelet, this is OG genta all the way!

DSplash · 17 October 2019, 07:48 AM

Thanks for all those comments!
I see everyone is saying it has been polished a little too much! (And thanks for the tip to look for the spacing between the screw and the bezel’s edge, it’s pretty clear!)
Price wise, it’s not exactly « given » too as it is a little below 9k€...How much do you think a great example of this ref should be? I’m really liking the vibe it has!
Might even consider sacrificing other pieces to get a two-tone jumbo instead if I ever find a great one!
Thanks again!

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DSplash · 17 October 2019, 04:38 PM

I also found this one locally in the same price range. It’s a 14790 from 94 though but looks less polished...

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DSplash · 18 October 2019, 04:32 AM

Does this one’s polishing seems better? The seller says it was polished once.
I’ll probably go see it Saturday...Is 8,5-9k€ a good value?
Thanks!

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WatchBrothersLondon · 18 October 2019, 07:36 AM

From what I can tell that seems about right. The bezel screws are still below the top of the bezel which is good, the case and bracelet look a little soft due to usage most likely + the polish mentioned. The crown also appears to be the original non signed crown. This watch has seen some wear but looks honest. Take a look in person and see how you like it. Find out when it was last serviced and see how it keeps time today.

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tonupbklyn · 18 October 2019, 11:36 AM

here's what i believe to be a great example of one.
recently went thru AP service, and i took delivery today.
absolutely love it...TT is totally OG!

DSplash · 18 October 2019, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchBrothersLondon

From what I can tell that seems about right. The bezel screws are still below the top of the bezel which is good, the case and bracelet look a little soft due to usage most likely + the polish mentioned. The crown also appears to be the original non signed crown. This watch has seen some wear but looks honest. Take a look in person and see how you like it. Find out when it was last serviced and see how it keeps time today.

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Thanks!
Last service was in february.
I need to try the 36mm anyway, compared to my 15400...
Does the price seem correct?

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DSplash · 18 October 2019, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonupbklyn

here's what i believe to be a great example of one.

recently went thru AP service, and i took delivery today.

absolutely love it...TT is totally OG!

Congrats! Very nice!

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Kliminator · 18 October 2019, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSplash

I also found this one locally in the same price range. It’s a 14790 from 94 though but looks less polished...

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Still looks pretty polished to me. The edges look rounded. Compare it vs the unpolished example someone else just posted above

DSplash · 19 October 2019, 08:50 PM

Ok thanks!
I had the opportunity to see one in the steel and it sadly is too small for me :/
I guess I’ll have to find a 5402 but the budget is pretty different

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15 October 2019, 08:10 PM	#1
DSplash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 258	Advice on a 4100 Hi all, I « fell » on this 4100 that I find very appealing. I only own a 15400 so vintage AP is new to me... What to think of its condition? It looks pretty sharp to my eyes. Slight discoloration on the dial too near the center at 8 Any thoughts? Thanks! Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

17 October 2019, 04:38 PM	#9
DSplash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 258	Advice on a 4100 I also found this one locally in the same price range. It’s a 14790 from 94 though but looks less polished... Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

17 October 2019, 01:58 AM	#2
DSplash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 258	No opinions? Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

17 October 2019, 05:30 AM	#3
Collector2019 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: USA Posts: 610	can't judge on condition as I am not expert, but i do like the look of it and I think it's worth picking

17 October 2019, 05:42 AM	#4
tcpx "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 374	IMO it has been polished at least twice (pretty apparent from the bezel and and case near the lug holes) but overall in decent shape for its age If you like it and can pick up at a good price, go for it.

17 October 2019, 05:47 AM	#5
tonupbklyn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: bklyn Posts: 1,471	looks familiar...i’m getting the same model delivered tomorrow!

17 October 2019, 06:31 AM	#6
Ar_Mi "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Dubai/Los Angeles Watch: a few Posts: 595	If you want an honest opinion brother, I think that the 4100 is a great watch. This particular one however seems to have been a bit over polished, and it has a significant amount of stretch in the bracelet, which on a RO is quite costly to fix.

17 October 2019, 07:13 AM	#7
tonupbklyn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: bklyn Posts: 1,471	u can tell by the uneven spacing of the hex bolts to the edge of the bezel where the brush/polish meet that the polish job wasn’t done as meticulously as it could’ve been. that said, this model isn’t really a collector’s piece...they can be had at relatively great prices. if u like the watch, don’t worry about the less than spectacular refinishing...just wear/enjoy it! personally, i really dig the reuthenium dial (the petite tapisserie over the grande), the original script and the gold hands+markers. matched against the TT case+bracelet, this is OG genta all the way!

17 October 2019, 07:48 AM	#8
DSplash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 258	Thanks for all those comments! I see everyone is saying it has been polished a little too much! (And thanks for the tip to look for the spacing between the screw and the bezel’s edge, it’s pretty clear!) Price wise, it’s not exactly « given » too as it is a little below 9k€...How much do you think a great example of this ref should be? I’m really liking the vibe it has! Might even consider sacrificing other pieces to get a two-tone jumbo instead if I ever find a great one! Thanks again! Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

18 October 2019, 04:32 AM	#10
DSplash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 258	Does this one’s polishing seems better? The seller says it was polished once. I’ll probably go see it Saturday...Is 8,5-9k€ a good value? Thanks! Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

18 October 2019, 07:36 AM	#11
WatchBrothersLondon 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Real Name: Ben Location: London, UK Posts: 615	From what I can tell that seems about right. The bezel screws are still below the top of the bezel which is good, the case and bracelet look a little soft due to usage most likely + the polish mentioned. The crown also appears to be the original non signed crown. This watch has seen some wear but looks honest. Take a look in person and see how you like it. Find out when it was last serviced and see how it keeps time today. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 October 2019, 11:36 AM	#12
tonupbklyn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: bklyn Posts: 1,471	here's what i believe to be a great example of one. recently went thru AP service, and i took delivery today. absolutely love it...TT is totally OG!

19 October 2019, 08:50 PM	#16
DSplash "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris Posts: 258	Ok thanks! I had the opportunity to see one in the steel and it sadly is too small for me :/ I guess I’ll have to find a 5402 but the budget is pretty different Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

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