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Louscamaro91 · 31 July 2017, 10:43 AM

A buddy of mine just bought this.
Seems a little questionable to me.
He traded some collectors knives for it.

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Old Expat Beast · 31 July 2017, 01:31 PM

It's not questionable. It's a fake.

Canook · 31 July 2017, 01:39 PM

18K milgauss? lol!!!!!!
... tell your friend he just swapped collectors knives for a $20 fake

AtomicLabRat · 31 July 2017, 02:05 PM

I was just about to post this watch myself and ask this. A person I know from my Facebook Texas horology group sent me a message asking if this was real or fake. We spotted the 18K mark.

The person selling it swears it's real however he is not the original purchaser.
question

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AtomicLabRat · 31 July 2017, 02:05 PM

The asking price was 6500

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Louscamaro91 · 31 July 2017, 02:19 PM

My buddy was smart enough to not send payment yet and backed out in time. Shady people

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AtomicLabRat · 31 July 2017, 02:23 PM

I'm no expert in spotting fake Rolexes. However the 18K was a dead giveaway and the guy that I was discussing with spotted it right before I did

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AtomicLabRat · 31 July 2017, 02:37 PM

So, are there any immediate tells on the dial?

I thought the caseback engraving was too light
Also the clasp didnt. Look right.
Bracelet polish looked off

What did i miss?

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offrdmania · 31 July 2017, 02:37 PM

It is as fake as a $3 bill

Andad · 31 July 2017, 02:46 PM

The can swear all he likes but that will always be a fake.

This is a pix of my GV caseback FYI.

Note the absence of the gold hallmarks and the quality of the engraving etc.....

Al1969 · 31 July 2017, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louscamaro91

My buddy was smart enough to not send payment yet and backed out in time. Shady people

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I thought you said he TRADED collectors knives for the watch.

GLADIATOR · 31 July 2017, 05:12 PM

Watch is fake
How do we end up with two different people buying being offered the same watch??
Nothing to do with dial, which looks pretty correct.
Everything else is wrong!

Louscamaro91 · 31 July 2017, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al1969

I thought you said he TRADED collectors knives for the watch.

All I know, watch was on a knife forum page on Facebook, he sent me a message saying he bought/traded for the watch. Then sent pictures.

He lucked out that this was a "through the mail" trade. He never mailed out the knives and never received the watch.

I thought he already had the watch.

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GLADIATOR · 31 July 2017, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louscamaro91

All I know, watch was on a knife forum page on Facebook, he sent me a message saying he bought/traded for the watch. Then sent pictures.

He lucked out that this was a "through the mail" trade. He never mailed out the knives and never received the watch.

I thought he already had the watch.

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Something strange here - two people, different states being offered the same watch?

Louscamaro91 · 31 July 2017, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Something strange here - two people, different states being offered the same watch?

I'd say so.
I had another guy message me from this forum and said he saw the watch on the Facebook page.

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Busyboy · 31 July 2017, 05:57 PM

Looks like a Balinese kuta beach rolex to me

AtomicLabRat · 1 August 2017, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Something strange here - two people, different states being offered the same watch?

So spit it out. What are you thinking? I dont think the seller was trying to sell it twice

When I posted this, the seller had told the person who contacted me that the watch was sold. That was in response to a request for additional photos of the rehaut, serial number and movement.

Feel free to join the texas horology group and ask about it.

It actually makes sense as this is the place to go to ID a Rolex and confirm what i was thinking.

The name of the seller was Andrew Duke. If he wasn't the original purchaser he may not even know it's a fake. Or, he's just a scammer. Who knows.

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AtomicLabRat · 1 August 2017, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louscamaro91

I'd say so.
I had another guy message me from this forum and said he saw the watch on the Facebook page.

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When did your buddy make the deal?

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AtomicLabRat · 1 August 2017, 01:30 AM

The sellers response
"He said he factored the possibility of it being a fake and made a trade deal with someone for about a $1500 value. Lol!"

"I told him to open the case and he said he doesn't have the proper tools"

Lol. How hard is it to take it to the local jeweler and pay him $25 or so to open the case up

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Syed117 · 1 August 2017, 03:37 AM

Ah, the incredibly rare 18k Milgauss.

Those bracelet screws are also amazing.

crowncollection · 1 August 2017, 06:00 AM

Clearly fake

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Ballaratboy · 1 August 2017, 07:33 AM

Lucky escape indeed.

AtomicLabRat · 1 August 2017, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ballaratboy

Lucky escape indeed.

Very true. For two people

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rolexdiamonds · 3 August 2017, 06:39 AM

For educational purposes, the only tell-tale was the 18K engraving?

witch watch · 3 August 2017, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexdiamonds

For educational purposes, the only tell-tale was the 18K engraving?

All the printing on the dial looks to large and to low down from the Crown. The what I think may be the 750 marking on the rear of the lug is wrong, the engraving on the back and bracelet looks light, the screws too deep and on mine at least I have no 72200 marking.

rolexdiamonds · 3 August 2017, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by witch watch

All the printing on the dial looks to large and to low down from the Crown. The what I think may be the 750 marking on the rear of the lug is wrong, the engraving on the back and bracelet looks light, the screws too deep and on mine at least I have no 72200 marking.

Thank you!

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socalwatchcollector · 3 August 2017, 11:21 AM

That is a clunker without question.

dmhines · 3 August 2017, 01:17 PM

The notch behind the crown is NOT supposed to be there ... LOL ...

bdex75 · 3 August 2017, 01:48 PM

The poor engraving on the back, the case notched by the crown, the 18k hallmark is obvious. The clasp is bad.

Lot wrong here. And that's just on the back side.

Glad your buddy didn't get burned. My original reaction was I hope his collector knives were some used butter knives.

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socalwatchcollector · 3 August 2017, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

It's not questionable. It's a fake.

31 July 2017, 10:43 AM	#1
Louscamaro91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Lou Location: SF, CA Watch: All of them Posts: 94	New MilGauss A buddy of mine just bought this. Seems a little questionable to me. He traded some collectors knives for it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

31 July 2017, 01:39 PM	#3
Canook "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Jason Location: Aussie/Malaysia Watch: too many to list Posts: 1,470	18K milgauss? lol!!!!!! ... tell your friend he just swapped collectors knives for a $20 fake __________________ Current lineup -116610LV Sub -16233 Tapestry Datejust -16610LV KERMIT -116600 SD4000....16612 Yachtmaster- 16710 PEPSI -216570(polar)- -Yachtmaster II 116688 126300 Datejust 41 jubilee * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

31 July 2017, 02:37 PM	#9
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,918	It is as fake as a $3 bill __________________ TRF Member 11738

31 July 2017, 05:12 PM	#12
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Watch is fake How do we end up with two different people buying being offered the same watch?? Nothing to do with dial, which looks pretty correct. Everything else is wrong! __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

1 August 2017, 06:00 AM	#21
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,186	Clearly fake Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

31 July 2017, 01:31 PM	#2
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: SEIKO TUNA Posts: 28,556	It's not questionable. It's a fake.

31 July 2017, 02:05 PM	#4
AtomicLabRat Banned Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houston Posts: 55	I was just about to post this watch myself and ask this. A person I know from my Facebook Texas horology group sent me a message asking if this was real or fake. We spotted the 18K mark. The person selling it swears it's real however he is not the original purchaser. question Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

31 July 2017, 02:19 PM	#6
Louscamaro91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Lou Location: SF, CA Watch: All of them Posts: 94	My buddy was smart enough to not send payment yet and backed out in time. Shady people Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

31 July 2017, 02:23 PM	#7
AtomicLabRat Banned Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houston Posts: 55	I'm no expert in spotting fake Rolexes. However the 18K was a dead giveaway and the guy that I was discussing with spotted it right before I did Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

31 July 2017, 05:57 PM	#16
Busyboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Uk Posts: 1,069	Looks like a Balinese kuta beach rolex to me

1 August 2017, 01:30 AM	#19
AtomicLabRat Banned Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houston Posts: 55	The sellers response "He said he factored the possibility of it being a fake and made a trade deal with someone for about a $1500 value. Lol!" "I told him to open the case and he said he doesn't have the proper tools" Lol. How hard is it to take it to the local jeweler and pay him $25 or so to open the case up Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

1 August 2017, 03:37 AM	#20
Syed117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Syed Location: The Ether Posts: 3,388	Ah, the incredibly rare 18k Milgauss. Those bracelet screws are also amazing.

1 August 2017, 07:33 AM	#22
Ballaratboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Steve Location: Australia Watch: Rolex & Tudor Posts: 179	Lucky escape indeed.

3 August 2017, 06:39 AM	#24
rolexdiamonds "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: USA Watch: GMTII (116710LN) Posts: 15	For educational purposes, the only tell-tale was the 18K engraving?

3 August 2017, 11:21 AM	#27
socalwatchcollector "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: John Location: newport beach Watch: Pateks Plural Posts: 1,620	That is a clunker without question.

3 August 2017, 01:17 PM	#28
dmhines "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Atlanta Watch: Milgauss / GMT II Posts: 464	The notch behind the crown is NOT supposed to be there ... LOL ...

3 August 2017, 01:48 PM	#29
bdex75 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Brandon Location: Indianapolis Watch: my money vanish Posts: 8,506	New MilGauss The poor engraving on the back, the case notched by the crown, the 18k hallmark is obvious. The clasp is bad. Lot wrong here. And that's just on the back side. Glad your buddy didn't get burned. My original reaction was I hope his collector knives were some used butter knives. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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