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Why two-tone Daytonas seem to be cheaper?
Hi there.
So, after a search, not so quick, neither so profound, I could see that the two-tone Daytonas are more expensive from teh AD ( obviously - precious metal), however on second hand market, they are even at level of retail price or sometimes even below. Any idea why? Do you have to wait less for them? Aesthetically not so appealing? TIA and cheers. ![]() Actually I like the two-tone with racing blue dial. A lot. |
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Simply a supply and demand issue
They are available quite quickly from an AD while a steel Daytona certainly isn’t! In my opinion they are much better value when buying pre owned and also I prefer the look to a stainless steel
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Because it’s less popular. TT is polarizing. It makes the watch more busy and less harmonious. It also demands a premium against steel, and makes one year for PM.
So basically it’s a bit of a compromise instead of an elevation. I’ve worn a 126613LB for a while but ultimately it annoyed me more than anything, and now the only TT I can wear is my vintage 17013. |
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Usually, people go for stainless steel because they are the easiest to buy because they are cheapest...it is the entrance ticket, sort to speak....
However, if people want to buy precious gold watches, they will usually get it in full-gold version because to show prowess of their social class or wealth two-tone is somewhat neither stainless(sporty) nor flashy(compared to full-gold version) so there is less demand for these watches |
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My AD occasionally has TT Daytonas on display to buy. That's why. The demand is considerably less. I think it looks particularly nice in TT.
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![]() ![]() ![]() I just like this one, for example. ![]() |
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Far less demand for the TT.
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I agree with the above comments, TT is in less demand. I would not buy any TT model.
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Personally, I love the TT, I've got my name down for a black face new shape as my daily, the thing is you ain't never getting a stainless even with a good spend
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I always preferred TT over SS, all of my first 3 Rolexes are TT (TT YM, TT Datejust & TT Chnr).
My preference: PM > TT > SS
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The demand for the SS models are higher than the two tones.
Example, the 16520 is selling for 26k + or - while the 16523 is selling for 17k + or -. In the vintage markets. And with the recent 2 SS Paul Newman's selling at Sotheby's last week. I think the SS hype has spiked. Just my thoughts. Chris Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk |
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+1 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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This is covered in Econ. 100/101… Supply vs. Demand
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SS traded above MSRP for PM at one point … nuts as that may be.
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Is a "Bluesy" Sub easier to get at AD, then a SS? They seem quite popular. OP, that TT blue face is great looking. My brother-in-law got a TT white face Daytona at a local AD about 3 years ago with no spend history. it's just OK to me ( too fancy maybe). I like that blue face though.
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For me personally, I prefer tt over ss because of the variety of the dials they offer. However once I managed to go full pm, I never considered a tt again Sent from my SM-S901E using Tapatalk |
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Because two tone reminds me of the 80s and people who wanted a PM watch but couldn't swing it.
I just hate TT All SS or all PM only for me.
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TT models in every model are like this. It’s been that way for over a decade. TT Rolex models were significantly more popular in the 1980’s-1990’s.
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It's merely a matter of supply and demand acquiring them from an authorized dealer is relatively quick, unlike a steel Daytona.
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I like TT watches, but as said above by fellow members, the vast majority of buyers prefers SS. So most TT models are relatively easier to get.
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Anyway, it is crazy to pay for such overpriced SS watches. So, hopefully one day I will be able to get a TT Daytona then. I hope more people think like you and it will actually go even below market price ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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If you’re rich (me) it looks like you couldn’t make the big purchase. If you’re poor (not me) it looks like you’re trying too hard. It also ages you.
So it’s just not as desirable. |
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The TT’s are a taste that some like and some don’t. I like them and since a larger majority in the Rolex community seem to not, it makes it better for those of us who do.
Also, one can’t say they don’t sell, for I have the opportunity to interface with a lot of luxury watch people. Within the last month I’ve sold a TT Daytona and Datejust off of my wrist, other words people asking me if I’d consider selling them. |
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Because too many people decide based on what everyone else thinks rather than what they personally like... "TT looks old", "TT makes me look not rich enough to afford full gold", "TT looks like I couldn't get a SS allocation."
The minute you stop giving a damn about what other people think, you will have a lot more freedom and clarity on your watch collecting journey. And as much as I love TRF, this place does not help anyone achieve watch collecting nirvana. We're all opinionated enablers of group think who make these things seem more important than they are. |
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Think it’s well answered above.
If you prefer TT, go for it. I have found watches are one of the few things where I often prefer the cheaper/ less popular option which makes purchasing cheaper and more enjoyable. TT and YG are not for me though except maybe a CHNR where I think the colouring works somehow. If you’re buying TT because you can’t get stainless steel or just because TT’s cheaper, then I just wouldn’t. It will annoy you forever. |
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SS is considered the true Sports Watch
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when I see a TT being worn other than the bluesy, I think "that guy doesn't have a good AD relationship or can't/won't go grey" or, it's an old guy. I had a TT Daytona. I sold it once I bought the real thing (steel Daytona) grey.
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