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Old 14 September 2017, 02:46 PM   #1
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Daytona 116519 Butchered Case

Here's an interesting proposition - if you had a chance to buy a (very) cheap 116519 with a butchered mid case, would you?

And what would the repair options be?

1. Have case replaced by RSC - no way could this be economical.
2. Get a SS case replacement from independent and sell old WG case as scrap (end up with a cheap but franken 116520).
3. ...?

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Old 14 September 2017, 02:50 PM   #2
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I would much prefer to purchase a better condition PM Daytona or new SS Daytona. Seems like a lot of trouble to go through and I don't know how many cases (no movement) there are floating around. Getting a replacement from RSC would likely cost you more than its worth unless it was of some sentimental value which it doesn't sound like from your description.
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Old 14 September 2017, 02:54 PM   #3
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You could see if LAWW can weld it back to spec. They do some pretty astonishing work.
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Old 14 September 2017, 02:56 PM   #4
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I would love to know the story here...
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Old 14 September 2017, 03:14 PM   #5
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I would love to know the story here...
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Old 14 September 2017, 03:51 PM   #6
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I would love to know the story here...
Watch is part of a watchmaker's estate.
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Old 14 September 2017, 05:06 PM   #7
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I would try to get it fixed, it gold and malleable at the end of the day, some who laser welds
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Old 14 September 2017, 05:07 PM   #8
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i saw something that was fi sxed like this. still wasnt the same but perhaps it could be fixed well
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Old 14 September 2017, 05:48 PM   #9
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Can you show a picture of the front please?
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Old 14 September 2017, 06:13 PM   #10
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Can you show a picture of the front please?
The front, the sides, the more the merrier! It would be nice to learn the story behind the watch too.
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Old 14 September 2017, 07:30 PM   #11
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Here's an interesting proposition - if you had a chance to buy a (very) cheap 116519 with a butchered mid case, would you?

And what would the repair options be?

1. Have case replaced by RSC - no way could this be economical.
2. Get a SS case replacement from independent and sell old WG case as scrap (end up with a cheap but franken 116520).
3. ...?
There's a fella down here in Melb that's supposedly a wiz at welding & reshaping SS... I can only assume that working WG would be easier than SS.

or #4: amputate all 4 lugs and make it into a pendant pocket watch
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Old 14 September 2017, 08:19 PM   #12
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I wouldn't get involved in that, but how cheap we talking?
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Old 14 September 2017, 08:47 PM   #13
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I'd love the to see a picture of the front.
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Old 14 September 2017, 10:29 PM   #14
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Old 15 September 2017, 12:10 AM   #15
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What's the price and what's the cost of repairs or replacement case?
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Old 15 September 2017, 01:12 AM   #16
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That would need to be dirt cheap to even consider.
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Old 15 September 2017, 03:20 AM   #17
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If I fancied a project I might, but PMs I like in mint or new condition only.
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Old 15 September 2017, 04:19 AM   #18
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Yeah, depends on how cheap and how much LAWW would charge...
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Old 15 September 2017, 04:37 AM   #19
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Old 15 September 2017, 04:44 AM   #20
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It's worth at least it's weight in gold right?? Also, I don't see why a skilled jeweler couldn't heat that lug up and hammer back to close enough shape and braze/weld from there?
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Old 15 September 2017, 04:51 AM   #21
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if it can be laser welded and shaped back into form I don't think anyone would walk up and say, "man that lug has been laser welded and shaped like crap, oh nice oysterflex tho...." assuming you strap on an oysterflex of course. story and more pics pls.
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Old 15 September 2017, 07:05 AM   #22
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You guys are only looking at the bent lug. It looks to me like the whole case is out of round. From the right side to the bottom of the case it looks a little wonky. Anything can be fixed but re-shaping a case would be a lot of work and you would not be guaranteed to get a proper water seal.

In my opinion the case is junk and only worth its weight for the gold content. If the dial and movement are good then maybe you have some donor parts but that's about it.
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Old 15 September 2017, 07:17 AM   #23
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Pass on that one. Looks like a pain in the A$$!
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Old 15 September 2017, 09:03 AM   #24
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Old 15 September 2017, 09:17 AM   #25
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I'd definitely pay several hundred for it and up to a grand. On the flip side, I wouldn't pay $5K for it. Just not worth the hassle to me...finding bracelet, fixing case, assuming it would never be 100%. I can't justify in my head spending thousands on it. But that's just me talking from the armchair...
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Old 15 September 2017, 11:24 AM   #26
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That thing is too beat to even be worth fixing.
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Old 15 September 2017, 11:37 AM   #27
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You guys are only looking at the bent lug. It looks to me like the whole case is out of round. From the right side to the bottom of the case it looks a little wonky. Anything can be fixed but re-shaping a case would be a lot of work and you would not be guaranteed to get a proper water seal.

In my opinion the case is junk and only worth its weight for the gold content. If the dial and movement are good then maybe you have some donor parts but that's about it.

X2 The case back is separated from the case, meaning the screw back is toast and the case dimensions+threads

Unfortunately I think your watch is beyond repair and would recommend buying a new one

See if you can salvage whatever is still working: movement, dial etc to help fund a new one
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Old 15 September 2017, 12:34 PM   #28
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I wonder what the watch did that was so bad that someone did this much damage to it.
Pooped on the rug?
Poor little Daytona
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Old 15 September 2017, 12:42 PM   #29
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Old 15 September 2017, 01:43 PM   #30
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I wonder what the watch did that was so bad that someone did this much damage to it.
Playing the odds.. most likely it was packed in luggage & suitcase got reversed over.

It's crushed but no roadrash or hard impact marks.
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