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joeh · 2 April 2012, 12:34 AM

Do you see any problems here?

imono · 2 April 2012, 12:40 AM

Oversize rehaut.
Oversize LEC.
Fonts are thick.
Different pearl.

Here is a nice looking one for comparison.

cajunron · 2 April 2012, 12:44 AM

Upon first glance, looks fake to me.

DJ_Lorenco · 2 April 2012, 12:46 AM

I agree

joeh · 2 April 2012, 12:47 AM

It's also selling for $450.00 craigslist which makes it even more obvious. Thanks for looking.

DJ_Lorenco · 2 April 2012, 12:50 AM

lots of odd bits, the rolex crown lasered onto the glass shouldnt be that seen in a photo so clear

Johny · 2 April 2012, 12:52 AM

flat hands.

TSW · 2 April 2012, 01:14 AM

1000% fake!

1675-David · 2 April 2012, 01:22 AM

archeophoto · 2 April 2012, 01:59 AM

The fonts in the first image look different then the ones in the second photo. In the second photo the Coronet looks better also. "Thick fonts" can result from rotten digital photos. I think you should request more photos before disgarding this as a fake too quickly.

joeh · 2 April 2012, 03:11 AM

the second hand lume looks a little too large to me.

here an an additonal pic. you have to admit, without further inspection, it is a good make.

I noticed that the grooves on the clasp itself are suppose to join one another. Aren't they?

GradyPhilpott · 2 April 2012, 03:39 AM

Here's what an LEC looks like and it take some serious light to get it to show up that well.

The watch in the OP is a rank counterfeit.

T-Rip · 2 April 2012, 03:44 AM

Everything is wrong,
The engraved rehault,
The script
The LEC
The plastic wrapping covering the bracelet is wrong too..

Garbage

T-Rip · 2 April 2012, 03:45 AM

The new ones don't have the sticker on the back...

SethBocaRatonPawn · 2 April 2012, 04:09 AM

It's obviously very fake. The 12 o'clock arrow doesn't properly line up with the top of the Rolex crown. It is slightly off center. And that sticker sealed the deal.

figbo · 2 April 2012, 04:57 AM

joeh · 2 April 2012, 05:31 AM

I contacted the seller of that watch and he told me that it's not authentic;a replica.I guess that's still not legal though right?

scocope · 2 April 2012, 05:49 AM

"I contacted the seller of that watch and he told me that it's not authentic;a replica.I guess that's still not legal though right?"

It's only "legal" in China; it becomes illegal in China whenever a photo-op is needed to convince the gullible in to believing they are fighting against counterfeits.

crowncollection · 2 April 2012, 07:56 AM

sorry looks fake to me also

mrbill2mrbill2 · 2 April 2012, 08:04 AM

While not always a sign of a Fake - 5 tick SWISS MADE always concerns me on a 16610. Not to mention the other problems.

2 April 2012, 12:34 AM	#1
joeh Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 112	does everything look OK on this submariner? Do you see any problems here?

2 April 2012, 12:44 AM	#3
cajunron 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,864	Upon first glance, looks fake to me. __________________

2 April 2012, 12:52 AM	#7
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	flat hands. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

2 April 2012, 01:14 AM	#8
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	1000% fake! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

2 April 2012, 03:39 AM	#12
GradyPhilpott 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Tudor BB36 Posts: 34,418	Here's what an LEC looks like and it take some serious light to get it to show up that well. The watch in the OP is a rank counterfeit. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

2 April 2012, 12:46 AM	#4
DJ_Lorenco Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: James Location: Aberdeen Watch: Want a Green Sub Posts: 30	I agree

2 April 2012, 12:47 AM	#5
joeh Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 112	It's also selling for $450.00 craigslist which makes it even more obvious. Thanks for looking.

2 April 2012, 12:50 AM	#6
DJ_Lorenco Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: James Location: Aberdeen Watch: Want a Green Sub Posts: 30	lots of odd bits, the rolex crown lasered onto the glass shouldnt be that seen in a photo so clear

2 April 2012, 01:22 AM	#9
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,056

2 April 2012, 01:59 AM	#10
archeophoto "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Calgary, Canada Watch: 14060M Submariner Posts: 87	The fonts in the first image look different then the ones in the second photo. In the second photo the Coronet looks better also. "Thick fonts" can result from rotten digital photos. I think you should request more photos before disgarding this as a fake too quickly.

2 April 2012, 03:11 AM	#11
joeh Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 112	the second hand lume looks a little too large to me. here an an additonal pic. you have to admit, without further inspection, it is a good make. I noticed that the grooves on the clasp itself are suppose to join one another. Aren't they?

2 April 2012, 03:44 AM	#13
T-Rip "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Tom Location: Victorville CA Watch: Rolex DSSD 116660 Posts: 3,189	Everything is wrong, The engraved rehault, The script The LEC The plastic wrapping covering the bracelet is wrong too.. Garbage __________________ T-Rip Formally known as Haydendillon Rolex: DSSD 116660, 16622 PLATTY

2 April 2012, 03:45 AM	#14
T-Rip "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Tom Location: Victorville CA Watch: Rolex DSSD 116660 Posts: 3,189	The new ones don't have the sticker on the back... __________________ T-Rip Formally known as Haydendillon Rolex: DSSD 116660, 16622 PLATTY

2 April 2012, 04:09 AM	#15
SethBocaRatonPawn "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: Boca Raton Watch: Rolex Milgauss Posts: 92	It's obviously very fake. The 12 o'clock arrow doesn't properly line up with the top of the Rolex crown. It is slightly off center. And that sticker sealed the deal.

2 April 2012, 04:57 AM	#16
figbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: El Raf-O Location: florida Watch: tt GMT2c,Omega Posts: 19,687	__________________ member # 9862 Best bartender in the world!! Last of the Bastid Tossers p club member #9

2 April 2012, 05:31 AM	#17
joeh Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 112	I contacted the seller of that watch and he told me that it's not authentic;a replica.I guess that's still not legal though right?

2 April 2012, 05:49 AM	#18
scocope Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Posts: 108	"I contacted the seller of that watch and he told me that it's not authentic;a replica.I guess that's still not legal though right?" It's only "legal" in China; it becomes illegal in China whenever a photo-op is needed to convince the gullible in to believing they are fighting against counterfeits.

2 April 2012, 07:56 AM	#19
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,186	sorry looks fake to me also __________________ watches many

2 April 2012, 08:04 AM	#20
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	While not always a sign of a Fake - 5 tick SWISS MADE always concerns me on a 16610. Not to mention the other problems. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

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