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30 May 2015, 07:14 AM | #1 |
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5970r vs 5270r
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Would just like to hear opinions between these two watches. Which do you prefer and why? Personally I like the slightly bigger size of the 5270r and like the in house movement.... |
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the 5270R really dialed in the design.
i saw it in person recently and have to say i am a fan, especially of the cleaner dial layout. they are both the tops. in the long run however, i believe the 5970 is the better purchase for value retention.
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Agree, I prefer the 5270. I like the apertures to indicate leap year and day / night better on the 5270, but if I'm spending that sort of money value retention is important. That currently makes the 5970 a better buy.
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Just out of interest, why do you say that? Ok I know we don't know yet how long the 5270r will be in production, but assuming they are similar production numbers would you still say the same?
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I'd gladly own either, but having just handled the 5970r, I'm pretty certain that would be my choice over just about anything
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Would take the 5270, dial layout is a lot cleaner
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In terms of looks, basically splitting hairs, both pretty much equal. Value retention, depending on how much you paid, probably the 5970.
However, I much prefer a watch with an In house movement, so if I was willing to tolerate some lack of appreciation, I'd go for the 5270. |
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5970 for me any day
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Hi There !
Question here ! Wouldn't some luminescent markers on the dial make this timepiece very useful (daily beat) at night ?, or is it an option ? Cheers ! MB |
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Both are awesome, but I think I prefer by a bit the 5270R, I like it, and everyone seems to agree that the movement is better, but again both are hot… And of course the 5970 is better for collectibility, but can't go wrong with either
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5270R. Like the cleaner dial and the more robust, higher power reserve in-house movement. Not too worried about value retention. Just buy right from the start.
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I totally agree and I might add there is nothing wrong with either of these grail pieces. I really like the 5270R and was told that the production numbers will be very limited. We shall see. There is a 5270R on Chrono but I thought it was not out yet for purchase.
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Putting resale aside I like 5270.
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I see Thanks MB |
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well
I always said 5970 above 5270 but this 5270 looks amazing ! Still probably the 5970 because of the movement and it will be a rarer piece but to be honest, this 5270 is imo the best 5270 until now
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I agree, the latest 5270 versions are close to perfection - my only residual (v minor) gripe is that I wish the left and right sub-dials were at 3 and 9 exactly.
It has become a really tough decision now, but as others have mentioned, the bulletproof 5970 residuals must play a part in the decision. |
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From a pure aesthetic perspective, the 5270 with the cleaner looking and undisrupted lines of the case. The slightly protruding pushers on the side, top, and bottom 5970 case kinda spoils it a bit for me.
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5270's more modern look makes the 5970 look a little dated now.
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I'd prefer a 5270 if bought right, whatever that number is...
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I like the 5970 with a more symmetrical dial. indexes at 2 and 4 o'clocks and 8 and 10 o'clocks balance better as the inside dials at 3 and 9 o'clock levels.
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What Arnauld said
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I agree. Just because it's an in-house movement, doesn't mean they will mass produce them. I am confused as to why the in-house movement subtracts value for this watch...
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31 May 2015, 12:38 PM | #28 |
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It will be interesting to see whether the 3rd generation 5270 prices harden a little given that they have corrected some of the early dial anomalies which have received so much negative press.
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So Roger's 5970P was the first Patek I ever tried on that really had me go "WOW." With that said, the 5270 is gorgeous...I think investment $$ aside, 5270 has my heart.
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Was the 5970 a success from the very start of its life? Did it appreciate very quickly? It could still be early days for the 5270 and as has already been said with the changes made to the dial this I'm sure will make a huge difference to resale. The 5270 could still be a good investment as long as you buy at the right price.
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