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offrdmania · 4 January 2020, 05:51 AM

I opened up my SD43 and noticed that on the newer 3235 movement, Rolex has gone back to using case clamp tabs to hold the movement in the case.
Anyone know why they didnt use the same movement removal method of tightening the screw to loosen the movement in the case that previous movements used? Seems odd that they would go back to older ways.
Could it be because the SD43 case is too big for the movement?

037 · 4 January 2020, 05:56 AM

Looks like there's a lot of extra room in there, period. They can't use screws alone with that much space. Cutting the case closer to the movement would weigh more, otherwise I have no explanation myself.

Chewbacca · 4 January 2020, 06:18 AM

Thanks for posting.

mountainjogger · 4 January 2020, 07:49 AM

Interesting. Almost like a moat!thumbsup:

chomps21 · 14 September 2020, 01:17 PM

Nice can't find any pictures of that movement inside the sd43 thanks

fskywalker · 15 September 2020, 02:47 AM

No idea but nothing bad on that

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TswaneNguni · 15 September 2020, 02:50 AM

Interesting,thanks for posting .

DC116710LN · 15 September 2020, 03:35 AM

Very interesting - thanks for sharing

eonflux · 15 September 2020, 03:42 AM

Interesting.
Thanks for posting.

The 3235 and 3135 movements are the same diameter.
So a larger case with more empty space inside wouldn't be unexpected if that extra space isn't filled in by case material.

Smobews · 15 September 2020, 05:25 AM

Is there some kind of spacer between the movement and inner case?

Rodrigo082 · 15 September 2020, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offrdmania

I opened up my SD43 and noticed that on the newer 3235 movement, Rolex has gone back to using case clamp tabs to hold the movement in the case.
Anyone know why they didnt use the same movement removal method of tightening the screw to loosen the movement in the case that previous movements used? Seems odd that they would go back to older ways.
Could it be because the SD43 case is too big for the movement?

Crazy how ugly looking and industrial Rolex movements are ... Glad can’t see
It

Calatrava r · 15 September 2020, 05:34 AM

And those tabs can break loose if the watch is dropped and then the movement is loose in the case. Were the screws more secure and robust?

214270Explorer · 15 September 2020, 06:24 AM

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214270Explorer · 15 September 2020, 06:30 AM

alphadweller · 15 September 2020, 06:34 AM

Mmm.. not impressed by what I'm seeing. Thanks for posting, OP.

Onikage · 15 September 2020, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodrigo082

Crazy how ugly looking and industrial Rolex movements are ... Glad can’t see
It

Must be the Lange owners. Checking in.

18078pres · 15 September 2020, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Must be the Lange owners. Checking in.

No he is Rolex 3100 movement lover. 3200 just looks cheaper no doubt cheaper to make also

Andad · 15 September 2020, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 18078pres

No he is Rolex 3100 movement lover. 3200 just looks cheaper no doubt cheaper to make also

Hmmm.

Interesting.

Smobews · 16 September 2020, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 18078pres

No he is Rolex 3100 movement lover. 3200 just looks cheaper no doubt cheaper to make also

32 series are the modernized version of the 31 series. Redone in the age of CAD with improved tolerances and manufacturing technics. I hope you are kidding with your no doubt comment.

TriaXenginE · 21 November 2020, 02:10 PM

The cal 3135 mounting seems more secure since the movement had to be turned to the cutouts in order to release it. The movement tabs look out of place in the 3235 especially since the previous model just looked more integrated in execution.

Jocke · 21 November 2020, 04:57 PM

The reason is there must be some space for the helium gas.

ThatSubGuy · 21 November 2020, 06:58 PM

Still better than the plastic holder inside a $3k TAG Hauer, lol. Oh yeah, the entire movement is only held in place by the crown.

shedlock2000 · 14 January 2022, 05:07 AM

That’s very interesting. One of the things I liked about Rolex was the use of cam clamps (for want of a better term). It’s interesting they have used these tabs on the SD.

When you say ‘gone back to’ did they use the tabs in earlier watches? I’ve always been a gnt guy, so my experience only extends as far back as the 1675 — which I think used the cam-clamps?

Polarexplorerii · 14 January 2022, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatSubGuy

Still better than the plastic holder inside a $3k TAG Hauer, lol. Oh yeah, the entire movement is only held in place by the crown.

And that is the reason I got rid of my Aquaracer yrs ago!

asiparks · 14 January 2022, 05:43 AM

Nothing wrong with a nylon or plastic spacer ring that supports the movement in the case for the entirety of it's circumference & height .

Laszlo · 14 January 2022, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

The reason is there must be some space for the helium gas.

Funny

Laszlo · 14 January 2022, 06:35 AM

Interesting for sure - kind of makes me think, that watch is going for (gray) $17K (unworn), and you see this, and wonder, why? -- is it really worth it? Hell yes.

BMWMotoRider · 14 January 2022, 06:50 AM

No wonder Rolex doesn’t use sapphire backs. Not much to look at.

Nav01L · 14 January 2022, 07:22 AM

Could it be to allow the watch to “breathe” as it is compressed at great depth? Obviously there would be lots of pressure on the crystal at 4000 ft under water, this would push in the gaskets, the rehaut and might exert pressure on the dial and movement assembly that’s just better contained by giving all of this some room to move? Not sure this is more than a lose theory on my part, but wouldn’t be entirely implausible.

KY.. · 14 January 2022, 07:40 AM

Oh yeah, the good old days of off the shelf ETA movements in pricey watches.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatSubGuy

Still better than the plastic holder inside a $3k TAG Hauer, lol. Oh yeah, the entire movement is only held in place by the crown.

4 January 2020, 05:51 AM	#1
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4 January 2020, 07:49 AM	#4
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4 January 2020, 05:56 AM	#2
037 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: USA Posts: 6,173	Looks like there's a lot of extra room in there, period. They can't use screws alone with that much space. Cutting the case closer to the movement would weigh more, otherwise I have no explanation myself.

4 January 2020, 06:18 AM	#3
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	Thanks for posting.

14 September 2020, 01:17 PM	#5
chomps21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: ct Posts: 7	Nice can't find any pictures of that movement inside the sd43 thanks

15 September 2020, 02:50 AM	#7
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	Interesting,thanks for posting .

15 September 2020, 03:35 AM	#8
DC116710LN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: US Posts: 1,057	Very interesting - thanks for sharing

15 September 2020, 03:42 AM	#9
eonflux "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SNA Posts: 3,635	Interesting. Thanks for posting. The 3235 and 3135 movements are the same diameter. So a larger case with more empty space inside wouldn't be unexpected if that extra space isn't filled in by case material.

15 September 2020, 05:25 AM	#10
Smobews "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Usa Watch: The BIG ones Posts: 512	Is there some kind of spacer between the movement and inner case?

15 September 2020, 05:34 AM	#12
Calatrava r 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 11,107	And those tabs can break loose if the watch is dropped and then the movement is loose in the case. Were the screws more secure and robust?

15 September 2020, 06:24 AM	#13
214270Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: United States Watch: me buy Watches Posts: 3,955	:

15 September 2020, 06:34 AM	#15
alphadweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Vic Location: Spain Watch: SD43 Posts: 6,127	Mmm.. not impressed by what I'm seeing. Thanks for posting, OP.

21 November 2020, 02:10 PM	#20
TriaXenginE "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NYC Watch: 1680 Posts: 57	The cal 3135 mounting seems more secure since the movement had to be turned to the cutouts in order to release it. The movement tabs look out of place in the 3235 especially since the previous model just looked more integrated in execution.

21 November 2020, 06:58 PM	#22
ThatSubGuy Banned Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Belgium Posts: 473	Still better than the plastic holder inside a $3k TAG Hauer, lol. Oh yeah, the entire movement is only held in place by the crown.

14 January 2022, 05:07 AM	#23
shedlock2000 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Steve Location: Canada Watch: 16753; Bellini Dia Posts: 1,770	That’s very interesting. One of the things I liked about Rolex was the use of cam clamps (for want of a better term). It’s interesting they have used these tabs on the SD. When you say ‘gone back to’ did they use the tabs in earlier watches? I’ve always been a gnt guy, so my experience only extends as far back as the 1675 — which I think used the cam-clamps? __________________ The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. SS Submariner no date 1992 (sold); SS GMT II 2007 (sold); SS GMT II C 2008 ('M' series) (sold); SS Sub C 2011 (sold); BB GMT 1971 (sold); Omega 50th GMT

14 January 2022, 05:43 AM	#25
asiparks "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Portland, OR Watch: ing the Detectives Posts: 1,888	Nothing wrong with a nylon or plastic spacer ring that supports the movement in the case for the entirety of it's circumference & height . __________________ Eagels may soar, but weasels are seldom sucked into jet engines...

14 January 2022, 06:35 AM	#27
Laszlo 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Date & No Date Posts: 10,865	Interesting for sure - kind of makes me think, that watch is going for (gray) $17K (unworn), and you see this, and wonder, why? -- is it really worth it? Hell yes. __________________ "You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die." Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca

14 January 2022, 06:50 AM	#28
BMWMotoRider "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: United States Posts: 122	No wonder Rolex doesn’t use sapphire backs. Not much to look at.

14 January 2022, 07:22 AM	#29
Nav01L "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Fred Location: Zurich Posts: 2,697	Could it be to allow the watch to “breathe” as it is compressed at great depth? Obviously there would be lots of pressure on the crystal at 4000 ft under water, this would push in the gaskets, the rehaut and might exert pressure on the dial and movement assembly that’s just better contained by giving all of this some room to move? Not sure this is more than a lose theory on my part, but wouldn’t be entirely implausible. __________________ Greetings from Switzerland Remember, the dignity you surrender at your AD‘s doorstep will never be recovered by wearing the watch he may get you.

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