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Speedmaster watch buy advise.
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I am looking to add a Speedmaster to my collection, and would welcome any advise on Omega watches. At the moment i own a Rolex DJ11 2tone, which i love. Love the look of the Speedmaster, and am torn between the "Professional Moon Watch" and the "Racing Chronometer" in red dial with rubber strap. Both are within my price range. The Racing comes in a lovely red dial colour, to which i would love, and as i have only a small wrist 40mm would be ok. Any advise or knowledge on these two watches would be most gratefull. Many thanks.. |
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There is only one moon watch....
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I'd say the classic one and only moonwatch. One of my favorite watches by far.
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SpeedmasterProfessional with Hesalite.....the one and only.
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I have to agree here. I love colored dials and interesting watches... but the Speedy Pro moon with plastic crystal is such a classic.
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Go with the Speedy Pro. If not it will be the one you'll look back at and think, "I really should have."
Besides, it's the freaking watch Pete Conrad, Alan Shepard, John Young and Gene Cernan wore on the Moon!
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Stay with the classics Tony. 42mm is also great on a smaller wrist. Good luck.
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Yep I have to agree. I have a very sweet mark II and still want the original...
Plus there is something soothing about the manual wind that is lost with the automatics. |
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Many thanks members for your advise.
I know what you mean about the "moon watch" being a class act. Been studying this watch online and seems that there is a number of different types, and sizes. Can anyone furnish me with the watch code, if possible please. One more question, what is "hasalite"?. Many thanks gang,as i am new to watch collecting.. Thanks for your help... ![]() |
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Hestalite or plexiglass for the crystal instead of sapphire
There is only one true Speedmaster ![]()
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My 42 mm Speedy Pro measures almost identically to my 40 mm Sub C No Date. Not sure why they claim the Speedy is 42 mm. Both fit very well on my 6.5 inch wrist. My vote is Speedy Pro.
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Many thanks gang for your input and knowledge.
Will do some more research before i pull the trigger.. |
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Get the original Moonwatch.
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~~~Hi Steven! the 2mm difference between the Submariner and the Speedmaster is dial size...the Speedmaster's dial is 2mm larger in diameter. The Sub *may* appear to be just as wide, when you include the O.D. of the bezel too, but when measuring actual dial diamters, the Sub's is 2mm less FWIW, I bought a 3570.50 (Man on the Moon) just about a year ago. Lovely watch, no doubt, then May of this year I purchased an 114060. For a couple of reasons, the Speedmaster does not get any wrist time, but not because it isn't a good/handsome/awesome/etc. watch In a lot of ways, the Speedmaster, for me, is a better watch than the 114060. For one, the dial on the 3570.50 is a lot easier to read (tell time), but that might just be my aging eyes...but I doubt it as the Speedmaster's dial is bigger (by 2mm anyways=:-), but it's also a cleaner more efficient dial design IMO, and not because of the four lines on the 114060 Something else I've had a hard time with, wearing the Speedie Pro since acquiring the Subc, and that's the lack of a true second hand. Now before I catch some chit from other members here about this last statement, and I realize this is a problem I have with the Speedmaster, and I may very well be the only one with a Speedmaster that feels this way, the way I see it, and the way I've worn my Speedie Pro, I don't let the hand of the chronometer run, unless I'm timing something, and at the risk of getting off tangent with this particular thought, it 's something I think about and that's the fact that the Speedie Pro, being a chronometer, at least this particular mechanical version, is really two movements in one, with the chrono function piggy backed onto the main movement, if I may so refer to it that way... Still following my train of thought? What I'm trying to say is two things. For one, and this is strictly my hang up with it, I can't seem to let the chrono function just run and run, unless I'm using it to time a particular event, and maybe that timing event is to see 10 seconds go by to time the flush on my HX espresso machine when I want to pull a shot Also, and I'm one of those (since acquiring the Subc) that constantly refers to time.is, just to see how my watch (114060) is keeping time. With the Speedmaster verifying actual time, you're checking the time of two different movements, if one were to check/verify the time, since there are two separate individual movements, if you're looking to see how the seconds and minutes of this Omega, stack up against the atomic time clock Whew!, glad I got that off my chest ![]() ![]() |
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~~~I have a possible answer to your situation...buy this Hirsch Robby strap and stick it on a Speedmaster, problem solved ![]() http://www.hirschstraps.com/collecti...ed-09120940504 |
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Chill out. It's one movement.
Your cal. 1861 isn't even a modular chrono movement, like some Speedies have. |
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IOW, they aren't running in sync
Put another way, when timing the 3570.50, the Chrono's second hand does not influence the time of the minute and hour hands...separate functions |
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What is the most desirable speedy?
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Great watches. Love the look and heritage of the Speedy Pro.
Ended up selling mine after a year because I found the small crown made the daily wind a chore. Not so with my Seamasters. Good luck with your choice. |
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- The 3570.50 does have a true seconds hand... it's in the 9 o'clock subdial, runs all the time the watch is wound, just like the Daytona's subdial at 6 o'clock. The larger seconds hand is for timing seconds when using the chronograph function. - The 3570.50 is a chronograph, not a chronometer, although it can be adjusted to within chronometer (COSC) standards. - It is not a modular chronograph, rather it is an integrated chronograph designed as a chronograph from ground up. It is one of the true classic chronographs and I find it to be one of the most comfortable and legible watches made. The ceramic Sub is very nice as well, just a different type of watch...both very enjoyable to wear. |
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~~~the one on your wrist ![]() you could have three guys wanting Speedies and all three end up with different Speedmasters. My choice may not be desirable for someone else. Sorry, you have to figure out which one you want, and who knows, that may change before you pull the trigger. For instance, before settling on the Speedmaster (3570.50 in my case), I was sure I was going to purchase a chrono heritage blue Tudor but the more I thought about the orange and blue colour scheme, I decided on a more sedate chronograph and went with the Speedmaster If you end up deciding on the currently available model, that you can buy from an AD/trusted seller, give some thought about going with a used piece in good condition. Like a new car rolling off the lot, the new watch will suffer depreciation ![]() |
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~~~I've read the exact same thing from other past Speedmaster owners, and is often the main reason they flipped their watch. No one had or has a harder time winding the Speedmaster than me, until I found a good work around I need to mention too, I was diagnosed with peripheral neuropathy in my hands (fingers primarily) and toes/feet a few years ago. It's a numbing condition wher you can't feel objects to a certain degree when they come in contact with the area you are suffering with this affliction. I have to try and make a fist, then open it, with both hands when I get out of bed in the morning, or afternoons lately Anyways, what I found to work for me to keep my Speedmaster wound when I was wearing it daily was two things. I can get a better grip on the crown when just after stepping out of the shower and drying off. I have the most moisture in my finger tips then. With dry skin it's hard to get a good grip on that smallish crown so I would always wind my watch after showering daily Secondly, since my thumb is bigger than my forefinger, I found it easier to wind by turning the watch head over so the crystal is facing down, because there is greater exposure of the crown on the underside, my thumb would engage it, and the edge of my forefinger got a better purchase on the narrower top side of the crown, w/the watch head upside down I found I could easily wind this difficult to wind watch that way. Hope this helps someone else ![]() |
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Say what!!!!
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~~~all good points you made here toolr ![]() yes, you can set the second hand that runs with the minute/hour hands using the teeny dial at 9 o'clock I get crossed eyed trying to see, and you can stop that second hand from running by turning the crown (while pulled out) counter clockwise, but the problem I have, and I realize I'm in the minority here, which is fine with me...the second hand of the chronograph is not synched w/the hour/minute hands...again, most that own and wear this watch, don't have the aversion that I do with these two separate functions (chronograph hand running continuously), and you're right, I misspoke when I called the Speedmaster a chronometer once in my original reply in this thread, it's not a chronometer it's a chronograph! Good point Also, good choice of words when you said the Speedmaster was one of the most legible watches ever made, or words to that effect. It's that stellar dial legibility I prefer over my Submariner, despite the fact I enjoy wearing my Submariner over the Speedmaster. Who knows?, maybe one day I'll fall back in love with my Speedie Pro again and actually wear it ![]() |
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![]() ~~~I forgot to answer this for you, and that said, if anyone else ever expects an answer from me in this and any other thread, it's not that I am ignoring you, quite the contrary, I am not receiving thread notifications from this forum, despite asking to be notified... As to my statement about the chronograph function piggy backed onto the movement, for the life of me, back when I was researching the 3570.50 before purchase, I swear I read somewhere, that this in fact was how this caliber was created. If in fact it wasn't, do yourself a favor and don't get your tidy whites in a knot over my statement. Life is short, have fun, and don't believe everything you read on the internet, or in an internet forum ![]() |
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