16610 swiss only dial

[Daniel23456]

Hello everyone,
I have an option to buy a 16610 swiss only dial A series, watch only- 6500$.
The watch is in a really good condition and hasn’t been polished.
I was wondering if to your experience, it is a decent price...? I am leaning towards taking it tomorrow but need the last push...
Thanks everyone!

[Bizcut1]

Originally Posted by Daniel23456

Hello everyone,
I have an option to buy a 16610 swiss only dial A series, watch only- 6500$.
The watch is in a really good condition and hasn’t been polished.
I was wondering if to your experience, it is a decent price...? I am leaning towards taking it tomorrow but need the last push...
Thanks everyone!

Decent price. Not a great price. Late 1990's era. Depends on condition and, of course, your trust in the seller. I'd offer $6300.

[Daniel23456]

Originally Posted by Bizcut1

Decent price. Not a great price. Late 1990's era. Depends on condition and, of course, your trust in the seller. I'd offer $6300.

Thanks.
It is a seller that I really trust and have a previous experience with.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Daniel23456

Hello everyone,
I have an option to buy a 16610 swiss only dial A series, watch only- 6500$.
The watch is in a really good condition and hasn’t been polished.
I was wondering if to your experience, it is a decent price...? I am leaning towards taking it tomorrow but need the last push...
Thanks everyone!

Its a A serial from 1998/9 and a little overpriced, do not pay extra thinking the Swiss only dial is something special.

[Daniel23456]

Originally Posted by padi56

Its a A serial from 1998/9 and a little overpriced, do not pay extra thinking the Swiss only dial is something special.

Since we have good relations, I’ll try To get a lower price... However, I do think the watch will be worth more because of that in the future... Not because I think it is better, I fully understand and get that it is not, but people are willing to pay these extras so maybe it will be easier to move it when the time arrives...
How overpriced are we talking here? I thought 16610 go for around 6000$~ and this one is definitely in a good condition... Thanks for the help!

[Speed]

Originally Posted by Daniel23456

However, I do think the watch will be worth more because of that in the future... Not because I think it is better, I fully understand and get that it is not, but people are willing to pay these extras so maybe it will be easier to move it when the time arrives...

Do tell.

How much more are people willing to pay for this "extra" on a 16610 you speak of...now and in the future?

[Daniel23456]

Originally Posted by Speed

Do tell.

How much more are people willing to pay for this "extra" on a 16610 you speak of...now and in the future?

I stated my opinion, you can disagree if you want.
You and I both know that I can't bring such information as I am not a fortune teller. In addition, I think you're educated enough to understand that small nuance like that make difference.

[meyers]

I think the swiss-only dials from 98-99 are a neat thing - a unique little distinction that didn't last for very long and therefore make it a topic of conversation. Are they any more valuable? Don't know, don't care maaaan

[lecorsaire]

There’s a local guy in NY asking almost 10 grand for this watch without B&P! Do not fall for the hype. The only older Subs that will withstand a recession are the 5512/5513 and 1680s that are in excellent original condition. Maybe the early fat four Kermit. That’s it. 16610s are a dime a dozen with a 20+ year production and no one really cares if it says Swiss-T<25, Swiss or Swiss Made.

IMO holes vs. no holes and engraved vs. not engraved rehaut makes a bigger difference with this reference.

[Daniel23456]

Originally Posted by lecorsaire

There’s a local guy in NY asking almost 10 grand for this watch without B&P! Do not fall for the hype. The only older Subs that will withstand a recession are the 5512/5513 and 1680s that are in excellent original condition. Maybe the early fat four Kermit. That’s it. 16610s are a dime a dozen with a 20+ year production and no one really cares if it says Swiss-T<25, Swiss or Swiss Made.

IMO holes vs. no holes and engraved vs. not engraved rehaut makes a bigger difference with this reference.

If he's putting that for almost 10 grand it means that some people are willing to pay that price... Now the question that whether it's worth it or not is a different matter... Thanks for the reply.

[Onikage]

I think any hype induced price shift would have happened by now. I guess there's time yet. As has been said there are other characteristics later in the 16610 run that are considered more important than a missing MADE and possibly slightly crapper lume.

[Bizcut1]

Still...like I said, a decent price. And if you know and trust the seller and this watch speaks to you...grab it and wear it and enjoy it!!!!

[dricig]

more important to have box/papers.

[kieselguhr]

If your intent is to own and wear the watch, I would much rather get a modern reference by saving a little more.

You're getting very practical answers from the above members. That watch was $4500 - $5500 3 years ago. You would make much better appreciation gains investing your money outside of watches if investment is your intent.

[Ricky Rolex]

Originally Posted by lecorsaire

There’s a local guy in NY asking almost 10 grand for this watch without B&P! Do not fall for the hype. The only older Subs that will withstand a recession are the 5512/5513 and 1680s that are in excellent original condition. Maybe the early fat four Kermit. That’s it. 16610s are a dime a dozen with a 20+ year production and no one really cares if it says Swiss-T<25, Swiss or Swiss Made.

IMO holes vs. no holes and engraved vs. not engraved rehaut makes a bigger difference with this reference.

This

[Daniel23456]

Picked up the watch at the end... Such a classic.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pjb...w?usp=drivesdk

[Nikrnic]

Congrats! Good move, thats great looking Sub.

Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

[Oldfellow]

Congratulations, it is a great watch.
Pleased you got it in the end, much enjoyment to come.

[Bizcut1]

Beauty! Congrats!

[Futuristic]

Great watch, Congrats

[Daniel23456]

Thanks all! Very nice and classical piece!

[Tavli3]

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

Congrats! Good move, thats great looking Sub.

Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

Not sure about the Swiss only thing but it's a great looking watch!

[sillo]

Originally Posted by meyers

I think the swiss-only dials from 98-99 are a neat thing - a unique little distinction that didn't last for very long and therefore make it a topic of conversation. Are they any more valuable? Don't know, don't care maaaan

Same way I feel. Don't think they'll ever command a serious premium over Swiss Made dials. They're functionally identical.

[fskywalker]

Congrats and welcome to the 16610 club, my S series says hi!




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Rado63]

I think a complete set very good condition early 16610 under 7K is a bargain these days, Most good quality 16610 start in the 7k range and go up from there. next year probably no $6K pieces around. All I know is that the longer you wait the more expensive it gets.

[docmarioce]

Congrats! Just got mine "swiss made" D series yesterday in pristine condition in the mail from our trusted seller DavidSW after having had other ceramic ones including SubC with date, GMT, SD400, and SD43 all gone and this oldy is my favorite. Only wish the bracelet was similar to the new ones. Here is a pic.

[Daniel23456]

Originally Posted by docmarioce

Congrats! Just got mine "swiss made" D series yesterday in pristine condition in the mail from our trusted seller DavidSW after having had other ceramic ones including SubC with date, GMT, SD400, and SD43 all gone and this oldy is my favorite. Only wish the bracelet was similar to the new ones. Here is a pic.

I get what you're saying about the Bracelet... Even my 114270 with SEL or like your D series is an improvement over the hollow one's... But it's comfortable none the less!
Here's my proper first picture:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B2L...w?usp=drivesdk

[subluvr]

how many Swiss only dials where made you guys think? If only 1 year in production and rolex makes about 1 million watches, how many of them are subs? 10k? 20k?

[subluvr]

Gonna get mine tomorrow! This price is going up fast! only few for sale on Chrono. This will be the last vintage Sub to get collected and imo even more rare than LV fat fours! Just a matter of time. Stock up.

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by subluvr

how many Swiss only dials where made you guys think? If only 1 year in production and rolex makes about 1 million watches, how many of them are subs? 10k? 20k?

This sounds reasonable yes.