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jskim · 23 January 2011, 05:44 AM

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HL65 · 23 January 2011, 05:51 AM

The case back is not from a 5517--it is a 5513 (copy of) caseback. It is not a double reference as that is a 5517 with 5513 on case side and proper 5517 case back--therefore it is fake IMHO.

Tools · 23 January 2011, 05:53 AM

Yes, it is likely fake.........

Johny · 23 January 2011, 05:55 AM

post it in the watchout section.

Cannop · 23 January 2011, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

The case back is not from a 5517--it is a 5513 (copy of) caseback. It is not a double reference as that is a 5517 with 5513 on case side and proper 5517 case back--therefore it is fake IMHO.

Whats wrong with this one again? Do you mean the case back is a from a 5513? It's difficult to be exact from a photo, but the case looks correct from what I can see with its 5517 stamp and solid spring bars, and the dial, hands, bezel and crystal seem correct. Is it that it has been fitted with an incorrect back at some stage? The military markings on the back look correct. Excuse my questions but I am nowhere near as knowledgeable about milsubs as you or Larry!

mcjp6 · 23 January 2011, 08:22 AM

It is fake I am afraid.

Look at the case markings between the lugs. The "E"s are long, the crown guards wrong and the condition of the case is much too new. A Hong Kong special for around $200.

HL65 · 23 January 2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannop

Whats wrong with this one again? Do you mean the case back is a from a 5513? It's difficult to be exact from a photo, but the case looks correct from what I can see with its 5517 stamp and solid spring bars, and the dial, hands, bezel and crystal seem correct. Is it that it has been fitted with an incorrect back at some stage? The military markings on the back look correct. Excuse my questions but I am nowhere near as knowledgeable about milsubs as you or Larry!

No-the case back is not correct--5517's caseback numbers start in W10. Also--The 7's are wrong and the numbers
are awful as I look at them close--so fake!! The arrow and triangle on back--wrong again....Looks pretty bad to me.
Not a 5517---it is a fake and not a very good one at that!!!

Cannop · 23 January 2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

No-the case back is not correct--5517's caseback numbers start in W10.
Not a 5517---it is a fake!!!

Thanks for the explaination guys - you certainly need to know your stuff when it comes to vintage models!

HL65 · 23 January 2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannop

Thanks for the explaination guys - you certainly need to know your stuff when it comes to vintage models!

Not a problem--if you look at it next to a real one you can tell how badly it is done!!

23 January 2011, 05:44 AM	#1
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23 January 2011, 05:51 AM	#2
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,947	The case back is not from a 5517--it is a 5513 (copy of) caseback. It is not a double reference as that is a 5517 with 5513 on case side and proper 5517 case back--therefore it is fake IMHO. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

23 January 2011, 05:53 AM	#3
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,468	Yes, it is likely fake......... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

23 January 2011, 05:55 AM	#4
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	post it in the watchout section. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

23 January 2011, 08:22 AM	#6
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	It is fake I am afraid. Look at the case markings between the lugs. The "E"s are long, the crown guards wrong and the condition of the case is much too new. A Hong Kong special for around $200.

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