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Old 20 July 2022, 11:46 AM   #1
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Icon20 Help me choose a Chronograph to wait for my Daytona

Hi guys,

Tired of waiting for Daytona, got money to spend and want to spend it now.

After researching I narrowed my wishlist to one of these two pieces:

Option 1:

Zenith Defy El primero 21 (Rose gold case)
Ref 18.9000.9004/71.R585

https://www.zenith-watches.com/int/p...0-9004-71-r585

Option 2:

MOONWATCH PROFESSIONAL - Sedna™ gold on Leather strap
310.63.42.50.01.001

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/w...31063425001001


I can get them online for about $20.000 USD each (brand new).


What I like about the Zenith:

Has two escapements.
Chronograph beats @ 50hz
I have no watches with skeletal dial.
I think it is very juvenile and stylish.
Would be my first 44mm watch.

What I like about the Omega:

Iconic. Don't have any Moonwatches in my collection.
Beautiful.
Perfect size for me (probably more wearable than the Zenith)
Holds value better (even though I have never sold a watch)


Looking forward to the opinion of the experts.

Which one would you get?
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Old 20 July 2022, 11:53 AM   #2
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I think you should go for a VC Overseas Chrono, either Gen 2 if you like grand date or Gen3 like I have :)
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Old 20 July 2022, 12:04 PM   #3
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Help me choose a Chronograph to wait for my Daytona

Everyone has to have a Moonwatch in their collection. I have a Daytona, Hulk, Batman, and Sub date and I wear the Moonwatch most of all because I honestly just love it. That said, personally, if I were spending $20k for one, I’d get a gray market Ed White because I think it’s really cool (though it appears you want one in PM).


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Old 20 July 2022, 12:06 PM   #4
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Wait for the watch you want …. The Daytona.

If you can’t wait, Speedy is the one I’d get of the two options you list, but like the VC5500 better (blue or reverse panda).


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Old 20 July 2022, 12:15 PM   #5
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Wait for the watch you want …. The Daytona.

If you can’t wait, Speedy is the one I’d get of the two options you list, but like the VC5500 better (blue or reverse panda).


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I'll get the Daytona whenever AD calls. That could be in a year, I'll have enough saved up by then!

I like the VC, but I'm looking for a PM piece chrono.
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Old 20 July 2022, 12:35 PM   #6
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I'll get the Daytona whenever AD calls. That could be in a year, I'll have enough saved up by then!

I like the VC, but I'm looking for a PM piece chrono.

Don't get a VC. It will make you raise an eyebrow on the Daytona side by side.
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Old 20 July 2022, 12:51 PM   #8
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Get a Daytona grey, then sell that one once your allocation comes in.
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Old 20 July 2022, 01:02 PM   #9
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Get a Daytona grey, then sell that one once your allocation comes in.
Hmmm. Interesting idea.
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Old 20 July 2022, 02:32 PM   #10
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another vote for panda VC Gen 3 chrono, but i appreciated thats not the question you asked :)

Out of those 2 i would lean towards the Omega, even more the new green dial

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Old 20 July 2022, 02:48 PM   #11
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Old 20 July 2022, 03:15 PM   #12
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I recently tried the rose gold Omega but with gold bracelet. I was very positively surprised, very nice feel on the wrist and not too heavy as some other gold watches are. I even had the chance to get one at a very very good price, basically at 40% discount to list price (seem you are able to get it at a similar price if you can buy it without the bracelet for 20k?). But I didn't pull the trigger, I just feel the Speedy is really nice in its raw hesalite version, its not a luxury gold watch for me.
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Old 20 July 2022, 03:26 PM   #13
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I love the Sedna gold speedy. Get that1
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Old 20 July 2022, 05:50 PM   #14
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Everyone has to have a Moonwatch in their collection. I have a Daytona, Hulk, Batman, and Sub date and I wear the Moonwatch most of all because I honestly just love it. That said, personally, if I were spending $20k for one, I’d get a gray market Ed White because I think it’s really cool (though it appears you want one in PM).


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Old 20 July 2022, 06:03 PM   #15
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Get a Daytona grey, then sell that one once your allocation comes in.
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Old 20 July 2022, 10:35 PM   #16
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Amazing. 0 votes for the Zenith so far. I think it is a really cool watch.

The VC is way more expensive and right now I'm hunting for a PM case.
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Old 20 July 2022, 11:13 PM   #17
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Amazing. 0 votes for the Zenith so far. I think it is a really cool watch.

The VC is way more expensive and right now I'm hunting for a PM case.
I am a HUGE Speedmaster fan, but I would take that Defy over the Sedna gold Speedy.

Wait... just saw that it was 44mm - so never mind... too big... but it's pretty.
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Old 20 July 2022, 11:15 PM   #18
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Zenith.
Superior movement.
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Old 20 July 2022, 11:28 PM   #19
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First of all, please note that I'm a former Daytona owner who sold it with absolutely no regrets.
Second, I own a Speedmaster and wear it daily.
Third, you want a Daytona so don't settle for anything else. Just go grey if you're tired of waiting and have money to spend.

Just my 2c.
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Old 20 July 2022, 11:41 PM   #20
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another vote for panda VC Gen 3 chrono, but i appreciated thats not the question you asked :)

Out of those 2 i would lean towards the Omega, even more the new green dial

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/w...31063425010001
The green dial is awesome but out of stock everywhere.
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Old 21 July 2022, 03:29 AM   #21
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Omega for me. If you like the green give it a few months. Almost no omega remains coveted.
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Old 21 July 2022, 05:10 AM   #22
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Amazing. 0 votes for the Zenith so far. I think it is a really cool watch.

The VC is way more expensive and right now I'm hunting for a PM case.
I like the Zenith but 44mm seems too big but depends on your wrist size
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Old 21 July 2022, 06:09 AM   #23
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Omega for me. If you like the green give it a few months. Almost no omega remains coveted.
Many models are not available right now, pretty weird.

Maybe i'll wait until I find a moonshine gold speedy
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Old 21 July 2022, 09:41 AM   #24
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Hi guys,



Tired of waiting for Daytona, got money to spend and want to spend it now.



After researching I narrowed my wishlist to one of these two pieces:



Option 1:



Zenith Defy El primero 21 (Rose gold case)

Ref 18.9000.9004/71.R585



https://www.zenith-watches.com/int/p...0-9004-71-r585



Option 2:



MOONWATCH PROFESSIONAL - Sedna gold on Leather strap

310.63.42.50.01.001



https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/w...31063425001001





I can get them online for about $20.000 USD each (brand new).





What I like about the Zenith:



Has two escapements.

Chronograph beats @ 50hz

I have no watches with skeletal dial.

I think it is very juvenile and stylish.

Would be my first 44mm watch.



What I like about the Omega:



Iconic. Don't have any Moonwatches in my collection.

Beautiful.

Perfect size for me (probably more wearable than the Zenith)

Holds value better (even though I have never sold a watch)





Looking forward to the opinion of the experts.



Which one would you get?
zenith. Not everyone needs a speedy. Especially because everyone needs a speedy, you need a zenith.

https://www.gphg.org/horlogerie/en/w...nomaster-sport

https://www.zenith-watches.com/en_us...nomaster-sport





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Old 21 July 2022, 10:29 AM   #25
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Sounds like something a YouTube expert would say.
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Old 21 July 2022, 01:47 PM   #27
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If you want a Daytona, why not go grey? if you are tired of waiting of the AD waitlist game.......I wouldn't settle on second option choices either
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if you buy the first zenith in Dubai you will get allocated an omega 321 in one week !
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Why don't you buy an Omega Moonswatch? $200 for a Speedmaster. Pretty good value for you to get an Omega.
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