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Blancpain | 4 | 3.28% | |
Breguet | 33 | 27.05% | |
Chopard | 2 | 1.64% | |
Girard Perregaux | 2 | 1.64% | |
JLC | 22 | 18.03% | |
Parmigiani | 3 | 2.46% | |
Ulysse Nardin | 0 | 0% | |
other ... | 56 | 45.90% | |
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30 March 2024, 07:09 PM | #1 |
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(2) The holy trinity, a newcomer
So in a previous post one had to go.
Now of course there is an untaken spot :-) I listed a few candidates. A few rules. 1- had to be brands with a long history, so NO new and small independents as much as I like them 2- ofcourse high end finishing (no Rolex Omega, Cartier, Breitling, ...) 3- a lot of complications should be available (no Rolex, Omega, Cartier, Breitling, ...) 4- Should be widely available so brands that make at least a few 1000 watches per year (Thats why I excluded FP Journe)
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30 March 2024, 11:31 PM | #2 |
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Isnt ALS obvious replacement
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31 March 2024, 01:41 AM | #3 |
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31 March 2024, 01:53 AM | #4 |
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31 March 2024, 04:53 AM | #6 |
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It’s either Lange or Breguet. JLC would have been a contender 15 years ago but they lost their soul.
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31 March 2024, 05:12 AM | #7 |
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ALS all the way.
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31 March 2024, 01:04 PM | #8 |
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None of those.
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31 March 2024, 01:52 PM | #9 |
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31 March 2024, 05:19 PM | #10 |
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But…. ALS is a “new company” remember?. Only been around since the 1990s. It’s disqualified from this criteria according to the OP.
Of course if that argument is now inconvenient for you and you want to graft their “long history” to the current company, then ALS would be disqualified for using slave labor in forced camps. No.. ALS will never be trinity, sadly. Great watches but a dark past…. Or not enough past… either way, their past disqualifies them. Plus they have no real icons in their line up. JLC is much more deserving. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
31 March 2024, 05:47 PM | #11 | |
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TBH I just forgot Lange but wanted to include it On the other hand ... As you said the company lacks history JLC has the potential but imo their finishing is far from good enough. They are nice but owning some ... you really can't compare them to haute horlogerie when it comes to finishing
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31 March 2024, 07:25 PM | #14 | |
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Nice watches. Not icons. ALS just lacks gravitas in my opinion; more of a connoisseur brand. Frankly, Rolex is a better candidate. Icons, prestige,history galore… finishing not quite on the same level. But finishing is like the frosting. Keep it. I want to taste the cake. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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31 March 2024, 08:57 PM | #15 |
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I agree. Of course the Lange 1 and Dato are icons. AP has, what, the RO in all of its 1000 varieties. It could also be Breguet, but to me the Tradition line is the only truly remarkable thing they’ve done in the past 20 years or so.
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31 March 2024, 10:12 PM | #17 |
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ALS no contest. Its got a long history and far greater technical achievements than anything else in the past few decades.
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1 April 2024, 01:57 AM | #18 |
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Als.
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It seems like the terms you’ve set forth only allow for the selection of breguet.
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Parmigiani? It's 25 years old. I have no idea where your criteria for "old" comes from. ALS ALL THE WAY. |
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ALS loses out due to their break in history… damn war and split of Germany getting in the way haha I vote ALS.
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2 April 2024, 02:13 PM | #22 |
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ALS is the only contender
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3 April 2024, 10:49 AM | #23 |
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ALS. If their history or lack of disqualify, Breguet for sure. I wish they weren't a part of Swatch group though.
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4 April 2024, 12:03 AM | #24 |
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There is no Holy Trinity circa 2024... unless it is Rolex, Omega, and Cartier as those are the three best revenue brands and proven with hard data.
For The Really Old People If you're a longstanding TRF member who is really, reeeeeally old (over 70) and using long-outdated data with the 1960s Holy Trinity marketing campaign.... 1. Rolex 2. Omega 3. Cartier All three have very deep horology history as well.
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VC ALS Breguet
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Ah Urban Jurgensen
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5 April 2024, 06:56 PM | #28 |
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Among those, Breguet is the very easy choice.
And I would put Breguet over ALS, the latter only existing since 1990 (well, relaunched, the brand not existing between 1948 and 1990). Plus, while ALS has impressive technical features and finishing, for me, it's too clinical. For me, Breguet also brings style, passion and history to the impressive technical elements and finishing. |
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