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Old 28 November 2017, 07:23 PM   #1
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Sub hulk ceramic real?

Hello guys!
I own this watch since 2014, get them new from Finland with all documents and boxes. Please say me they are original.
I often visit biggest Russian watch forum and see fake rolex evolution – they get more and more look real (for users like me of course, not for professionals). And in some day, when I saw one more post on forum where somebody get fake I get a bit nervous )
Here pictures them new in box and now. Thank you!

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Old 29 November 2017, 02:13 AM   #2
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All looks good to me?
Why you ask after 3 years?
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Old 29 November 2017, 06:15 AM   #3
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All looks good to me?
Why you ask after 3 years?
Good question ))))

I didn’t bought this watch directly from dealer, they came to me throw the courier. And 3 years ago I wasn`t spend much time on watch forums.
Sometimes on Russian watch forum I see topics about fake Rolex when it`s very difficult to understand real/fake till see the caliber. And when I see this pictures the paranoia come to me )))
Same as this short story:

- Hi! How it`s going?
- Great! My wife has found that she has Allergy, Arrhythmia, Angina, Arthritis and Adenoma.
- Wow!
- It`s ok, she bought two great steaks yesterday and salesman wrap in on a sheet from the book “The medical encyclopedia - diseases on “A” letter”.
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Old 29 November 2017, 06:54 AM   #4
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Good question ))))

I didn’t bought this watch directly from dealer, they came to me throw the courier. And 3 years ago I wasn`t spend much time on watch forums.
Sometimes on Russian watch forum I see topics about fake Rolex when it`s very difficult to understand real/fake till see the caliber. And when I see this pictures the paranoia come to me )))
Same as this short story:

- Hi! How it`s going?
- Great! My wife has found that she has Allergy, Arrhythmia, Angina, Arthritis and Adenoma.
- Wow!
- It`s ok, she bought two great steaks yesterday and salesman wrap in on a sheet from the book “The medical encyclopedia - diseases on “A” letter”.
LOL
Enjoy a LOVELY watch
adam
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Old 29 November 2017, 07:27 AM   #5
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OP. You meant you didn't pick it up from the authorized dealer and the dealer shipped it to you? If not, Who did you buy it from? Did you have a good reason to suspect the seller is not selling a legit watch?
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Old 29 November 2017, 05:27 PM   #6
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OP. You meant you didn't pick it up from the authorized dealer and the dealer shipped it to you? If not, Who did you buy it from? Did you have a good reason to suspect the seller is not selling a legit watch?
Exacly. I choose incorrect word. Not a courier, but a the intermediar in the purchase.
No, I don`t have any reasons and this seller still sell watches successfully, it was just paranoia "what if...." )
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Old 29 November 2017, 05:29 PM   #7
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LOL
Enjoy a LOVELY watch
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Thank you!
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Old 30 November 2017, 06:01 PM   #8
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Not so sure. Bracelet/clasp is questionable.

Geneva is gene va.

Known issue with a high end fake series.
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Old 30 November 2017, 10:40 PM   #9
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Not so sure. Bracelet/clasp is questionable.
Geneva is gene va.
Known issue with a high end fake series.
I agree that something looks off in regards to the bracelet. Don't want to say what though.

As far as the kerning goes, on all the clasps I have, the kerning between the "E" and "V" all look a tad bit off. However, the gap show in these photos are definitely "more defined" than on the clasps I have but it could be the angle of the photograph. Here's a picture of a good fake and the a real clasp...(not my pict, just found it on the web)



The BOTTOM clasp is the real one so maybe this one is legit...OP, could you take a better picture of the right side of the clasp, the part that says "STEELINOX" along with the date code.
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Old 1 December 2017, 12:42 AM   #10
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Everything looks perfect to me
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Old 1 December 2017, 12:47 AM   #11
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I agree that something looks off in regards to the bracelet. Don't want to say what though.
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The BOTTOM clasp is the real one so maybe this one is legit...OP, could you take a better picture of the right side of the clasp, the part that says "STEELINOX" along with the date code.
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the part that says "STEELINOX" same as bottom on your picture. letters not black, they are lightly stamped.

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Old 1 December 2017, 12:54 AM   #12
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On second look, I feel that the spacing is relatively within range of genuine.
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Old 1 December 2017, 01:08 AM   #13
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I heard that testing on timegrapher at AD can give an answer
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Old 1 December 2017, 06:44 AM   #14
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Watch looks fine.
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Old 1 December 2017, 06:51 AM   #15
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I heard that testing on timegrapher at AD can give an answer
Not the case. Tons of fakes out there with relatively accurate, 28,800 BPH movements.
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Old 1 December 2017, 08:27 AM   #16
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the part that says "STEELINOX" same as bottom on your picture. letters not black, they are lightly stamped.

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AndreySPb, I'm not expert but to me, those marking look fine. I'd be willing to say the clasp is indeed genuine. Well since the entire bracelet is probably genuine, I'll say what I thought might be off. The end links don't look right to me from the photo of the caseback. The curvature looks off compared to the ones I have. Granted, I don't have a Hulk so maybe that's just a variation or model specific thing compared to the ones I have or it could be the angle/lighting of the photo.
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Old 5 December 2017, 02:56 AM   #17
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There is no AR on the cyclops
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Old 5 December 2017, 02:58 AM   #18
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There is no AR on the cyclops

You would really need to see specific angles, to ensure presence or lack of the "black hole" effect.
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