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Parachrom Hairspring and Why it is so Good!
Thanks to another member on the Omega forum, i found this cool little video: http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/10/17/parachrom-video/
This should put to rest some of the arguments regarding PC hairspring vs. Nivarox hairspring. PC is indeed significantly better...and it is not just a marketing ploy by Rolex, as implied by few members with the older movements. I must say...i now want Si hairspring in my Omega and PC in my Rolex! ![]() |
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I can't speak for much more than my experience, but the movement (including the blue PC spring) is much more accurate than the other three in my stable.
Also, I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but the Deepsea is the only watch that appears to follow the "placement" guidelines. For example, the DS does seem to gain a few on its back, and lose more when on it's side (crown up), and less crown down...
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Interesting info!
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Funnily, howver, the two work in opposite ways with placement of the watch. The GMT-IIC runs slow crown DOWN, while the Exp-II gains when placed crown DOWN. Of course the loss and gain is very insignificant, but it's puzzling how the same movement acts in different ways in 2 different watches. JJ
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Cool little video, however I am perfectly satisfied with my EXP-IIs performance using the junky old Nivarox spring.
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One thing I can tell you: My 3186 movement in GMT ll Pepsi has gained only 3 seconds in 3 weeks--That is far better than most I have owned.
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Interesting video... thanks for sharing~
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Does the PC hairspring make the Milgauss obsolete?
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The Milgauss has a parachrom hairspring, does it not?
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Definitely does!!
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Is the hairspring the only thing that can get magnetized in a mechanical watch?? I think that other parts (steel) in the watch can get magnetized and affect performance??? I think that the hairspring is a biggie in terms of magnetism, which i think Si4 and PC solved.
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Sorry JJ, i misunderstood you. I thought that you answered the other member who stated that the PC made the Milgauss obsolete, which i think that it does not.
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capable of picking up 20 plus tons.Myself have never experienced any form of magnetising in any watch I was wearing.And now working in strong magnetic fields with high power radio equipment again no problem with any Rolex modern or vintage.Rolex watches are made mainly from S.steel or precious metals and in conjunction with nickel, brass or beryllium, bronze or Glucydur balance wheels so they were very anti-magnetic to begin.Sure the Nivourax hairsrings were very very very slightly magnetic.But today there must be millions upon millions of them around and without any problems.But as long as you don't wear your watch dial down with the back off with a magnet dangling over movement.Then like a placebo test if you did not know whats inside case I would doubt if you would fine any difference in the every day real world of watch wearing.With quite a few older Rolex running to a couple of seconds a day or less.One Rolex Unicorn 88 years old and still running to just a few seconds a day.
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Wonder why all my old crappy Nivarox hairspring equipped watches run so accurately?
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with a magnet dangling over movement.And because all the Rolex movements since the 1950s have shown tremendous accuracy and longevity of life.
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An interesting video, thanks for sharing
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I heard that the material used in the new hairsprings if from alien technology.
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I didn't really hear that but the subject reminded me of seeing a show on tv about material that was reported to be from a UFO and that it wasn't effected by magnetic fields.
http://alienufoparanormal.aliencaseb...o-hunters.aspx http://aliencasebook.blogspot.com/20...cs-in-its.html |
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Excellent video! Thank you for sharing it, very interesting and educational.
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while it may indeed be anti-magnetic, i'm not sure it's inherently more accurate. anecdotal evidence does not make an assertion so. cosc records might shed more light on this subject...
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![]() Think of it this way...PC has made the Rolex impervious to yet another source of problem (magnetism)...and depending on who you talk to, magnetism is probably the BIGGEST issue facing a watch that goes bongers. (I say this because the 3185 and older caliber owners will say that magnetism never happens, while the newer caliber owners will say otherwise.) Regardless, i think that most watchmakers will agree that magnetism is an important fact of life of a mechanical watch ![]() |
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