Should Rolex reduce DJ/OP 41’s to 39mm?

[Oxfordian]

There have been a number of articles in magazines, newspapers, blogs and on line YT videos in recent months that indicate that the demand for ever larger diameter watches is slowing and there is a nod towards going back to a more ‘idealistic’ 39mm watch, certainly in the non ‘sport’ models.

Do the esteemed TRF members believe that this is direction that Rolex would go with the DJ or OP, and what about the lack of an Explorer 1 at 39mm. Should the Milgauss and Air King go to 39mm if Rolex continues with their production?

How likely are we to see some of the ‘Classic’ and ‘Professional’ range of watches back in 39mm?

[Politiceaux]

The DJ41 already is roughly 39.

[samson66]

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[Krash]

OP41 is 39 too.


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[afmars]

I think they should go to 37mm. The 40/41mm OP/DJ/DD have always looked awkward to me.

[samson66]

Originally Posted by afmars

I think they should go to 37mm. The 40/41mm OP/DJ/DD have always looked awkward to me.

So they are going to make a 36mm Datejust and a 37mm datejust. Does that make any sense at all? The larger DJ and DD are simply to offer a larger alternative to the 36mm designs. I'm thrilled they offer an larger size as I would not consider either in 36.

[Oxfordian]

Okay thanks for making me look totally stupid, I know that measurements get exaggerated Sub 41 for example but adding 2mm to the quoted measurements when they don’t exist.

Thanks Rolex, I feel such a fool

[Oyster Sauce]

Why don't they just re-name these "41mm" models for their actual dimensions, if they seem to be 39 mm in reality? Why create confusion?

[Know1isgod]

Originally Posted by Oxfordian

There have been a number of articles in magazines, newspapers, blogs and on line YT videos in recent months that indicate that the demand for ever larger diameter watches is slowing and there is a nod towards going back to a more ‘idealistic’ 39mm watch, certainly in the non ‘sport’ models.

Do the esteemed TRF members believe that this is direction that Rolex would go with the DJ or OP, and what about the lack of an Explorer 1 at 39mm. Should the Milgauss and Air King go to 39mm if Rolex continues with their production?

How likely are we to see some of the ‘Classic’ and ‘Professional’ range of watches back in 39mm?

Gotta ask where is this slowing of demand going? If Rolex is having an issue, they are welcomed to call me for the DJ 41 Wimbledon I've been waiting for months (bought 4 AD watches in 2021- Omega, Tudor and Rolex)

[Oxfordian]

Originally Posted by Know1isgod

Gotta ask where is this slowing of demand going? If Rolex is having an issue, they are welcomed to call me for the DJ 41 Wimbledon I've been waiting for months (bought 4 AD watches in 2021- Omega, Tudor and Rolex)

The point I was making is that allegedly across the industry the demand for ever larger dial watches was slowing with people moving to the more traditional 39mm. The fact that the DJ41 was actually 39mm had totally escaped me.

[afmars]

Originally Posted by samson66

So they are going to make a 36mm Datejust and a 37mm datejust. Does that make any sense at all? The larger DJ and DD are simply to offer a larger alternative to the 36mm designs. I'm thrilled they offer an larger size as I would not consider either in 36.

Everyone has different tastes. There is obviously a market for both sizes, and I trust that 41 and 36 is the optimal split for the market, otherwise Rolex would have went with something else. I am just saying that to my eyes something in between would look better than both options available today.

[Rrpdc]

Originally Posted by politiceaux

the dj41 already is roughly 39.

+1.

[Rrpdc]

Originally Posted by samson66

Good idea!

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Love it.


Just like the 40mm Daytona is 38.5 mm. Not sure why rolex does that.

[DRS Enabled]

DJ41 lug-to-lug of 47.5mm is actually smaller than the lug-to-lug of the 40mm GMT which is 48mm

[bob sims]

Originally Posted by afmars

I think they should go to 37mm. The 40/41mm OP/DJ/DD have always looked awkward to me.

I am told my OP41 is really 39.4.
Wonder if anyone has measured the DD40?

[RoRoRo]

It should be measured 10 - 4

[cbalster]

I have an OP39. Survey says?

[Krash]

Originally Posted by Oxfordian

Okay thanks for making me look totally stupid, I know that measurements get exaggerated Sub 41 for example but adding 2mm to the quoted measurements when they don’t exist.

Thanks Rolex, I feel such a fool

Don’t feel like a fool. Despite the DJ41 measuring at roughly 39, it can look big for the type of watch it is.

It actually wears smaller than my Submariner (because of thinner, more compact case size), but at the same time, it could actually look bigger too. Reason is that the Submariner has the bezel, so the surface area on the DJ41 dial is bigger than the surface area of the Submariner dial.

I think the Omega Aqua Terra is even worse because it actually measures at 41mm.

I have 7.25” wrists so I can wear larger watches but I totally get it when some people question the size of these types of watches. They’re not divers or chronos.

With all that said, I still plan on getting a DJ41 anyway. I’d rather have the 41 than the 36.


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[mattidk]

OP41 vs Sub40
I think it's measured like 40.X mm, my ideal size will be 39.5-40.5 mm range.

[Mick006]

I suppose there is some sort of psychology involved, whereby Rolex decided that marketing a watch at 41mm etc was better than actual size.

There must be some fellas out there that would feel effeminate wearing a sub 40mm watch.

I don’t know why else Rolex would do this.

[WatchesNBlondes]

I think they should actually measure 41mm

[Oxfordian]

So what is a DJ36 in actual mm?

[mike morris]

Originally Posted by Oxfordian

So what is a DJ36 in actual mm?

116 version 36mm , new 126 -35,6mm

[thenewrick]

the DJ/OP 36 is 36mm and the DJ/OP41 is 39.5mm.

The major sizing difference is the lug to lug, and the lug width. Dial and case sizes on both are comparable. It's more about how much lug you want on top of your wrist and how big of a bracelet you want.

At a glance they both look the same on the wrist so it's more of a fitment decision than a style one.

[ap1]

Originally Posted by samson66

Good idea!

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[GBD]

Originally Posted by RoRoRo

It should be measured 10 - 4

Measuring it that way incorporates part of the lug, which doesn't make sense, imo, even if that's how Rolex gets their sizing. For a round case a measurement from 9 to 3 is what most people would expect, I think.

[samson66]

Originally Posted by GBD

Measuring it that way incorporates part of the lug, which doesn't make sense, imo, even if that's how Rolex gets their sizing. For a round case a measurement from 9 to 3 is what most people would expect, I think.

Agree. Should measure across the case as close as you can get to 9/3 withOUT including the crown or crown guards.

[seattlewatch]

This is a really helpful thread, as I was leaning towards the 36mm until I saw this.

Reason being: most of my watches are 40mm, but I like how the 5 digits “wear smaller” than the 6 — and I really like the way that the 39mm bb58 wears.

To anyone that has both a datejust and a bb58, would you pls mind doing a side by side pic so I have a reference point? Either 41mm or 36mm, both would be helpful. Thanks

[Calatrava r]

To me DJ41 wears like a 41, even though it is only 39 something. The watch tends to be head dominate on my 16cm wrist.

[vh2k]

This thread is too educational and helpful. Let's address that:

If the Datejust 41 is really 39mm, how does this impact the value? Is this still a good investment?