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sambb · 31 January 2021, 11:09 AM

is the best choice (leather band, classic case), still a cartier tank? i know it isnt high horology. i guess one could get an old calatrava or a patrimony vc.

any opinions on the best dress watch in this range>

DLRIDES · 31 January 2021, 11:53 AM

Jaeger LeCoultre

gnuyork · 31 January 2021, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DLRIDES

Jaeger LeCoultre

What he said

Patton250 · 31 January 2021, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DLRIDES

Jaeger LeCoultre

Fact

77T · 31 January 2021, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sambb

i guess one could get an old calatrava or a patrimony vc.

That is what I did...

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ap1 · 31 January 2021, 02:02 PM

Vc- hodinkee had nice piece on this very topic

KevinP. · 31 January 2021, 02:04 PM

Lange Saxonia Thin!

Justindo · 31 January 2021, 02:06 PM

"Best" is really a matter of opinion. If you want a Cartier Tank, nothing else will do and it's a classic piece of good quality. I think JLC makes nicer watches but if you're going for gold for a simple dress watch, a Lange, VC, or even a Patek Calatrava may not be that much more money and they all have hand-finished movements and better cases, dials, and hands, generally speaking. Lange followed by VC would be my choice for a dress watch under $20k but the watch has to speak to you.

ts3 · 31 January 2021, 04:38 PM

There is no one answer. If you want to spend a lot less than 20k JLC steel dress watches are a great option. In the 20k range I'd go Lange or Patek. VC are nice but tend to be too large for my small wrists. Among in-production watches the Lange Saxonia Thin comes to mind if you like the austere design. Personally I chose a little 3998 Calatrava in platinum many years ago that can still be had for 20k preowned and much less in gold. Small watch but no regrets.

Token74 · 31 January 2021, 07:29 PM

I’d have a close look at the Parmigiani Toric.

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Fishrus · 31 January 2021, 09:04 PM

VC fifty six is one of my choices

winst · 31 January 2021, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DLRIDES

Jaeger LeCoultre

Testify!

RollinMoses · 31 January 2021, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Justindo

"Best" is really a matter of opinion. If you want a Cartier Tank, nothing else will do and it's a classic piece of good quality. I think JLC makes nicer watches but if you're going for gold for a simple dress watch, a Lange, VC, or even a Patek Calatrava may not be that much more money and they all have hand-finished movements and better cases, dials, and hands, generally speaking. Lange followed by VC would be my choice for a dress watch under $20k but the watch has to speak to you.

Fully agreed.

Also valid comment below that a lot of the VC dress watches are for whatever reason much larger than they need to be. Sub 38mm the VCs seem hard to beat if the Lange aesthetic is not for you.

_speedmaster_ · 31 January 2021, 11:13 PM

As said above, all a matter of taste. Since it hasn't been mentioned yet, consider the Breguet Classique with the enamel dial.

DantonIzzo · 31 January 2021, 11:17 PM

Lange Saxonia Thin. By a wide margin. It can be had less than 15k and perhaps as low as 12k.

DantonIzzo · 31 January 2021, 11:18 PM

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As said above, all a matter of taste. Since it hasn't been mentioned yet, consider the Breguet Classique with the enamel dial.

Beautiful watch!

DantonIzzo · 31 January 2021, 11:18 PM

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Lange Saxonia Thin!

Yup.

1William · 1 February 2021, 01:28 AM

SS JLC would be my choice followed closely by a Strap Grand Seiko.

scarlet knight · 1 February 2021, 01:47 AM

JLC. Reverso, Ultra thin, Moon Phase.

RoscoPico · 1 February 2021, 02:15 AM

So many choices really. A smaller PP, most JLC's possible, ALS Saxonia or similar, VC on the table, IWC at your leisure....

nwalker001 · 1 February 2021, 02:39 AM

I'd say Jaeger LeCoultre Master and Reverso or IWC Portugieser

CFR · 1 February 2021, 04:04 AM

Concur with what Justindo wrote.

I'd suggest you take all the brands/models mentioned in this thread, narrow them down to a subset of models that you like a lot, and then post again to ask for opinions about that subset. You can get a really nice Breguet, Cartier, JLC, Lange, etc., for that price.

Specific to Lange, since that's what I'm most familiar with: Because you're open to preowned, I'd add a Lange 1815 (or 1815 Up/Down) into the mix, as well as a Langematik (with or without Big Date). You can even get a preowned Lange 1 for around that price, if you like the asymmetry of a Lange 1, though those are probably a bit more than $20K now.

And I used to think these Chopards were the best bang for my buck, but you can't easily find them anymore.

Avs Fan · 1 February 2021, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CFR

Concur with what Justindo wrote.

I'd suggest you take all the brands/models mentioned in this thread, narrow them down to a subset of models that you like a lot, and then post again to ask for opinions about that subset. You can get a really nice Breguet, Cartier, JLC, Lange, etc., for that price.

Specific to Lange, since that's what I'm most familiar with: Because you're open to preowned, I'd add a Lange 1815 (or 1815 Up/Down) into the mix, as well as a Langematik (with or without Big Date). You can even get a preowned Lange 1 for around that price, if you like the asymmetry of a Lange 1, though those are probably a bit more than $20K now.

And I used to think these Chopards were the best bang for my buck, but you can't easily find them anymore.

Winner... This sublime reference has been on my list for a while. Dress watches are not my wheelhouse, but I would love to find a good example of the 1.96.

mario1971 · 2 February 2021, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CFR

Concur with what Justindo wrote.

I'd suggest you take all the brands/models mentioned in this thread, narrow them down to a subset of models that you like a lot, and then post again to ask for opinions about that subset. You can get a really nice Breguet, Cartier, JLC, Lange, etc., for that price.

Specific to Lange, since that's what I'm most familiar with: Because you're open to preowned, I'd add a Lange 1815 (or 1815 Up/Down) into the mix, as well as a Langematik (with or without Big Date). You can even get a preowned Lange 1 for around that price, if you like the asymmetry of a Lange 1, though those are probably a bit more than $20K now.

And I used to think these Chopards were the best bang for my buck, but you can't easily find them anymore.

Would that be appropriate?

Jack T · 2 February 2021, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CFR

Concur with what Justindo wrote.

I'd suggest you take all the brands/models mentioned in this thread, narrow them down to a subset of models that you like a lot, and then post again to ask for opinions about that subset. You can get a really nice Breguet, Cartier, JLC, Lange, etc., for that price.

Specific to Lange, since that's what I'm most familiar with: Because you're open to preowned, I'd add a Lange 1815 (or 1815 Up/Down) into the mix

Better yet, go see them, try them on.

cascavel · 2 February 2021, 04:33 AM

Patek 5107 or 5127, Lange 1815 or Saxonia.

Lesnerelli23 · 2 February 2021, 06:19 AM

+1 for JLC!

yessir69 · 2 February 2021, 11:25 AM

Check out the Girard Perregaux 1966 line. Great watches and you can get some good discounts.

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Benzsiam · 2 February 2021, 11:28 AM

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Would that be appropriate?

I love this one, I think you can get brand new for around $26k.

EEpro · 2 February 2021, 11:47 AM

Saxonia line from A Lange & Sohne

31 January 2021, 11:09 AM	#1
sambb "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA/UK Posts: 1,354	best dress watch < 20k is the best choice (leather band, classic case), still a cartier tank? i know it isnt high horology. i guess one could get an old calatrava or a patrimony vc. any opinions on the best dress watch in this range>

31 January 2021, 11:53 AM	#2
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ap1 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,374	Vc- hodinkee had nice piece on this very topic

31 January 2021, 02:06 PM	#8
Justindo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: California Posts: 2,176	"Best" is really a matter of opinion. If you want a Cartier Tank, nothing else will do and it's a classic piece of good quality. I think JLC makes nicer watches but if you're going for gold for a simple dress watch, a Lange, VC, or even a Patek Calatrava may not be that much more money and they all have hand-finished movements and better cases, dials, and hands, generally speaking. Lange followed by VC would be my choice for a dress watch under $20k but the watch has to speak to you.

31 January 2021, 04:38 PM	#9
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,376	There is no one answer. If you want to spend a lot less than 20k JLC steel dress watches are a great option. In the 20k range I'd go Lange or Patek. VC are nice but tend to be too large for my small wrists. Among in-production watches the Lange Saxonia Thin comes to mind if you like the austere design. Personally I chose a little 3998 Calatrava in platinum many years ago that can still be had for 20k preowned and much less in gold. Small watch but no regrets.

31 January 2021, 11:13 PM	#14
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31 January 2021, 11:17 PM	#15
DantonIzzo "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 184	Lange Saxonia Thin. By a wide margin. It can be had less than 15k and perhaps as low as 12k.

1 February 2021, 01:28 AM	#18
1William 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 46,674	SS JLC would be my choice followed closely by a Strap Grand Seiko.

1 February 2021, 01:47 AM	#19
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,354	JLC. Reverso, Ultra thin, Moon Phase.

1 February 2021, 02:15 AM	#20
RoscoPico "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Watch: ingMe,WatchingYou. Posts: 1,462	So many choices really. A smaller PP, most JLC's possible, ALS Saxonia or similar, VC on the table, IWC at your leisure....

1 February 2021, 02:39 AM	#21
nwalker001 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Nick Location: Chicago Posts: 71	I'd say Jaeger LeCoultre Master and Reverso or IWC Portugieser

1 February 2021, 04:04 AM	#22
CFR 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,072	Concur with what Justindo wrote. I'd suggest you take all the brands/models mentioned in this thread, narrow them down to a subset of models that you like a lot, and then post again to ask for opinions about that subset. You can get a really nice Breguet, Cartier, JLC, Lange, etc., for that price. Specific to Lange, since that's what I'm most familiar with: Because you're open to preowned, I'd add a Lange 1815 (or 1815 Up/Down) into the mix, as well as a Langematik (with or without Big Date). You can even get a preowned Lange 1 for around that price, if you like the asymmetry of a Lange 1, though those are probably a bit more than $20K now. And I used to think these Chopards were the best bang for my buck, but you can't easily find them anymore.

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cascavel 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Santa Fe Posts: 1,871	Patek 5107 or 5127, Lange 1815 or Saxonia.

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Lesnerelli23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 807	+1 for JLC!

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yessir69 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 3,260	Check out the Girard Perregaux 1966 line. Great watches and you can get some good discounts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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