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avega357 · 12 November 2018, 03:29 PM

Any suggestions on small Breitling

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JacksonStone · 12 November 2018, 03:32 PM

Try a Breitling Chronomat 41. They've been discontinued (for now), but there's still old stock around, and certainly plenty of pre-owned.

RJRJRJ · 12 November 2018, 03:37 PM

Superocean chrono is 42mm I think, and also has day and date. Not sure if the one I'm referring to is still current though.

JacksonStone · 12 November 2018, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

Superocean chrono is 42mm I think, and also has day and date. Not sure if the one I'm referring to is still current though.

The Superocean Chrono hasn't had a day feature in a long time. The current model is date only. But it is still 42mm.

RJRJRJ · 12 November 2018, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

The Superocean Chrono hasn't had a day feature in a long time. The current model is date only. But it is still 42mm.

Figures. I was very into Breitling, but lost much of my interest around the time the B01 was introduced. (not including the Navi. Sold mine and wish I still had it)

JacksonStone · 12 November 2018, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

Figures. I was very into Breitling, but lost much of my interest around the time the B01 was introduced. (not including the Navi. Sold mine and wish I still had it)

I gravitated away from the brand around the same time. I had that CSO (they called it the Chrono Superocean back then), and they discontinued it shortly thereafter, replacing it with the dreadful rubber bezel model. That, along with the Buck Rogers font on the Chronomat bezels, convinced me the brand was moving in a direction I wasn't prepared to follow. I do like the new Chronomat B01 this year; I'll be interested to see if Breitling releases it in a 41mm variant, and manages to do it without screwing it up. I'm wary, though, seeing as how they just released a new line (apparently they aren't beholden to the Basel schedule) called Premier, with the tag line, "Urban Elegance." Uh oh.

SG56 · 12 November 2018, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

Superocean chrono is 42mm I think, and also has day and date. Not sure if the one I'm referring to is still current though.

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

The Superocean Chrono hasn't had a day feature in a long time. The current model is date only. But it is still 42mm.

The new one has day date.
It's actually a 44 but imo wears smaller.
Pics on husband's wrist and mine. Mine is a 6.25

I plan on getting a leather strap so i can wear it sometimes.

JacksonStone · 12 November 2018, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SG56

The new one has day date.

That's a Superocean Heritage Chrono; I was referring to the standard Superocean Chrono. But good call all the same, because that's a new development. Previous models did not have a day feature.

Argo98 · 12 November 2018, 04:43 PM

The navitimer 1 41 mm or the new premier !

SearChart · 12 November 2018, 04:49 PM

Breitling is a brand who charges you for a new case if the crown tube is worn...

JacksonStone · 12 November 2018, 04:56 PM

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Breitling is a brand who charges you for a new case if the crown tube is worn...

Is that due to a bad design, or are they just a-holes?

Onikage · 12 November 2018, 04:58 PM

Not a brand I'd buy into atm. Just get a Valjoux based Navitimer and use independents - Never deal with them again and have done with it.

JacksonStone · 12 November 2018, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Not a brand I'd buy into atm. Just get a Valjoux based Navitimer and use independents - Never deal with them again and have done with it.

Sounds like a check in the a-hole column. Care to share your experience?

SearChart · 12 November 2018, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Is that due to a bad design, or are they just a-holes?

Both.
They solder the tube in the case... Whereas in every other brand you can replace the tube.

Omega used to do this as well but they stopped doing this and will replace any soldered tube for free during service.

It's not that soldering a tube is super bad, it is just a real pain when you need to replace them, Breitling just doesn't offer a replacement tube and chargers the customer for a complete new case.

Glad I work with Rolex, where a tube is easy to replace and doesn't require a new case

SearChart · 12 November 2018, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Not a brand I'd buy into atm. Just get a Valjoux based Navitimer and use independents - Never deal with them again and have done with it.

Valjoux 7750 is one of the most solid movements ever made, it isn't beautiful or refined but it does what it needs to do and does it well.

Onikage · 12 November 2018, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Sounds like a check in the a-hole column. Care to share your experience?

Just based on what I've read, and it takes one to know one.

RJRJRJ · 12 November 2018, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

Breitling is a brand who charges you for a new case if the crown tube is worn...

I had a superocean (1500m) get water inside, and it basically cost the price of a new watch to fix, minus strap and deployant.

JacksonStone · 12 November 2018, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Just based on what I've read, and it takes one to know one.

avega357 · 12 November 2018, 05:15 PM

Great responses and very accurate

The b 01 has had technical issues that they really have not resolved, the 7750 is the way to go but from several years back

My understanding is the quality on the new ones is less reliable than it used to be

avega357 · 12 November 2018, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Not a brand I'd buy into atm. Just get a Valjoux based Navitimer and use independents - Never deal with them again and have done with it.

Best response and there were some very good responses, I am impressed

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JacksonStone · 12 November 2018, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

Valjoux 7750 is one of the most solid movements ever made, it isn't beautiful or refined but it does what it needs to do and does it well.

O/T, but if you had a choice between an older-model Panerai with a 7750-based OP III, or a newer one with an in-house P.9010, based purely on technical considerations, which would you choose? Asking for a friend.

avega357 · 12 November 2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

O/T, but if you had a choice between an older-model Panerai with a 7750-based OP III, or a newer one with an in-house P.9010, based purely on technical considerations, which would you choose? Asking for a friend.

I would chose the 7750, can be worked on by independents.

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JacksonStone · 12 November 2018, 05:37 PM

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I would chose the 7750, can be worked on by independents.

That's one point in the 7750's favor, but it's not my only consideration. The P.9010 has a longer power reserve, a jumping time-zone hour hand, a full balance bridge, and is considerably thinner, allowing for a slimmer case. I also assume it has an instant-date change and eliminates the danger zone, although I haven't confirmed that. It also looks mighty nice through a DB. I would primarily be concerned about servicing issues if the movement is known for having problems, since I would probably send any Panerai in for factory service. It's pretty new, though, so maybe there isn't enough data.

gastown604 · 12 November 2018, 09:02 PM

Navitimer 92? It is 39mm and was produced between 1992 to 1996.

envuks · 12 November 2018, 09:48 PM

Go vintage if you go breitling. IMHO breitling was at their best in the late 90s / early 2000s. Wonderful chromomat examples from that era are not expensive. Generally well under $3000. Here is my chromomat with MOP dial and subdials. Papers have an original sale date of '98 I believe

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JacksonStone · 12 November 2018, 10:03 PM

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Go vintage if you go breitling. IMHO breitling was at their best in the late 90s / early 2000s.

Good point. The A13352 Chronomat was as good as that watch ever got, I think.

actionkwj · 13 November 2018, 12:43 AM

I’m into vintage and if you’d consider that, I’d look at a 60s-70s Top Time - highly collectible, beautiful, classic, and infinitely wearable st 38/39mm. Here’s a panda dial to die for! (Pic from AnalogShift)

Interestingly Breitling is now generating new watches inspired by the classics like this one, but there’s nothing like the real thing I love my vintage Navitimer from the late 60s or early 70s - the first Navi with a date!

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envuks · 13 November 2018, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Good point. The A13352 Chronomat was as good as that watch ever got, I think.

Well put! I have an A13050 chronomat and have to agree. There are a lot of wonderful dial configurations from the 40mm chronomat era.... it amazing when you think about it. My chronomat had a msrp of ~$3900usd when it was sold back in ‘98. A 16610 in that same year had an msrp of $3350usd...

jnelson3097 · 13 November 2018, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by avega357

Great responses and very accurate

The b 01 has had technical issues that they really have not resolved, the 7750 is the way to go but from several years back

My understanding is the quality on the new ones is less reliable than it used to be

Just curious as to where you’re hearing the B01 movement is still having issues. I haven’t read too much in the past few years of any problems. Mine has been flawless for the past 3 years.

Argo98 · 13 November 2018, 06:04 PM

The b01 is one of the best calibers on the market !! Don't hear and repeat everything you read on the internet ..

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actionkwj "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: san diego Watch: me soak up the sun Posts: 1,245	Looking for a Breitling Chrono but something below 42 mm for my 6.5 mm wrist I’m into vintage and if you’d consider that, I’d look at a 60s-70s Top Time - highly collectible, beautiful, classic, and infinitely wearable st 38/39mm. Here’s a panda dial to die for! (Pic from AnalogShift) Interestingly Breitling is now generating new watches inspired by the classics like this one, but there’s nothing like the real thing I love my vintage Navitimer from the late 60s or early 70s - the first Navi with a date! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 November 2018, 03:32 PM	#2
JacksonStone Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,150	Try a Breitling Chronomat 41. They've been discontinued (for now), but there's still old stock around, and certainly plenty of pre-owned.

12 November 2018, 03:37 PM	#3
RJRJRJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,495	Superocean chrono is 42mm I think, and also has day and date. Not sure if the one I'm referring to is still current though.

12 November 2018, 04:43 PM	#9
Argo98 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Greece Posts: 176	The navitimer 1 41 mm or the new premier !

12 November 2018, 05:15 PM	#19
avega357 Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Miami Watch: Rolex GMT's BLNR Posts: 797	Great responses and very accurate The b 01 has had technical issues that they really have not resolved, the 7750 is the way to go but from several years back My understanding is the quality on the new ones is less reliable than it used to be

12 November 2018, 09:02 PM	#24
gastown604 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Canada Posts: 83	Navitimer 92? It is 39mm and was produced between 1992 to 1996.

13 November 2018, 06:04 PM	#30
Argo98 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Greece Posts: 176	The b01 is one of the best calibers on the market !! Don't hear and repeat everything you read on the internet ..

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