Price range for a Sub 1680-

[gregorpal]

Hi everyone, what would it be a fair / range price for a Sub 1680, MK1,s/n. 5.4M all orginal, decent condition Papers and Box?
Thank you in advance

Kind regards

[MrLemon]

you can check with tropicalwatch and graypatina, they are well known Vintage seller.
I am no expert, I think 15k is about right

[Dan S]

For any sort of valid response, you would really need to show good photos of the watch, and also all of the accessories. If all you're looking for is a ballpark, then obviously you can easily research that yourself using auction sales.

[996marty]

You can always check asking prices on chrono but that’s not a true gauge of a potential selling price. Dan makes a good point post some photos to get a true idea of something’s worth and good feedback

[yowlie]

It would have a lot to do with the level of polish, insert fading, and dial patina and condition.

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by yowlie

It would have a lot to do with the level of polish, insert fading, and dial patina and condition.

And bracelet, and whether the accessories are correct/original, etc., etc. The OP has been posting a lot of threads asking for people to evaluate watches and perform valuations for him. So he should understand the drill by now.

[dhknola]

A decent red sub 1680 hammered on Loupe this for 15.5k a week or two ago.

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by dhknola

A decent red sub 1680 hammered on Loupe this for 15.5k a week or two ago.

The OP wasn't specific, but the serial number he gave suggests that it would be a white 1680, assuming it's correct.

[gregorpal]

Originally Posted by Dan S

For any sort of valid response, you would really need to show good photos of the watch, and also all of the accessories. If all you're looking for is a ballpark, then obviously you can easily research that yourself using auction sales.

Thank you,Dan. I have no photos yet. Anyway, I was watching different sources, and the variety in prices (sale prices not sold) ar so wide for almost the same watch and condictions that is really hard to say what is a fair price nowdays.
Regards

[gregorpal]

Originally Posted by Dan S

The OP wasn't specific, but the serial number he gave suggests that it would be a white 1680, assuming it's correct.

yes, as the serial number it is a white one.

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by gregorpal

Thank you,Dan. I have no photos yet. Anyway, I was watching different sources, and the variety in prices (sale prices not sold) ar so wide for almost the same watch and condictions that is really hard to say what is a fair price nowdays.
Regards

That's why we all generally do our own research when buying a watch. I could say $8k–$16k USD, depending on condition, originality, etc., but I doubt that would be very helpful.

[gregorpal]

Originally Posted by Dan S

And bracelet, and whether the accessories are correct/original, etc., etc. The OP has been posting a lot of threads asking for people to evaluate watches and perform valuations for him. So he should understand the drill by now.

Yes, I have posted threads just a couple of times (not a lot) asking opinions about a 5508 vs a 6536/1, and for a Daytona 16520. In both cases regarding conditions and opinions in order to help me to make a decision.
I hope it is not a problem for the Forum members.
Regards

[R44]

I had someone try and tempt me into selling my 5m serial number 1680 Mk1 white for £15000. It’s a full set with box, original papers and 200m anchor. It’s been polished (about 10 years ago by LA Watchworks) but still has thick lugs and great chamfers on it. For some time now I’ve gone by watch condition rather than worry about papers / full sets etc - this was one of the last vintage watches I brought with box and papers. I’ve also got a 1680 Red in the collection which was purchased around 12 years ago and the intention at the time was to sell the 1680 white. I decided to keep the white as well as I think the 1680 is a fabulous watch and really like white version as well as the red so didn’t want to part with it.

[gregorpal]

Originally Posted by MrLemon

you can check with tropicalwatch and graypatina, they are well known Vintage seller.
I am no expert, I think 15k is about right

Many thanks Mr Lemon
Regards

[gregorpal]

Originally Posted by R44

I had someone try and tempt me into selling my 5m serial number 1680 Mk1 white for £15000. It’s a full set with box, original papers and 200m anchor. It’s been polished (about 10 years ago by LA Watchworks) but still has thick lugs and great chamfers on it. For some time now I’ve gone by watch condition rather than worry about papers / full sets etc - this was one of the last vintage watches I brought with box and papers. I’ve also got a 1680 Red in the collection which was purchased around 12 years ago and the intention at the time was to sell the 1680 white. I decided to keep the white as well as I think the 1680 is a fabulous watch and really like white version as well as the red so didn’t want to part with it.

Many thanks for your reply. It is an interesting reference as prices are really mad in the last 2 years so it is difficult to have an estimation, as we had in the past with prices more regular. Thank you again.

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by gregorpal

Many thanks for your reply. It is an interesting reference as prices are really mad in the last 2 years so it is difficult to have an estimation, as we had in the past with prices more regular. Thank you again.

Yea prices have dropped a lot in the last two years. You don't want to use comps from 2020 or 2021.

[gregorpal]

Originally Posted by Dan S

Yea prices have dropped a lot in the last two years.

Yep, that is why I am a bit lost and confused and asking opinions out of the Chrono's /ebay or other sales / auctions references. Many thanks again.

[springer]

Based on my experience, I would think that $16,000 to $18,000 would find you a very nice, correct, late 1970s example with no issues. By nice and correct, I mean - very nice case, whether original or refinished with the correct tritium dial/hands, bezel, bezel insert, crystal, bracelet and a recent service. You might find one for less which is all the better!!! If you are looking for a set, expect to pay more.

Be very careful with many of these "trusted dealer" listings. I often see many of their watches listed that are not listed listed correctly or have issues with parts that are not period correct based on the listing description. If you are not concerned about a watch being 100% correct, then the price should be expressed accordingly.

[gregorpal]

Originally Posted by springer

Based on my experience, I would think that $16,000 to $18,000 would find you a very nice, correct, late 1970s example with no issues. By nice and correct, I mean - very nice case, whether original or refinished with the correct tritium dial/hands, bezel, bezel insert, crystal, bracelet and a recent service. You might find one for less which is all the better!!! If you are looking for a set, expect to pay more.

Be very careful with many of these "trusted dealer" listings. I often see many of their watches listed that are not listed listed correctly or have issues with parts that are not period correct based on the listing description. If you are not concerned about a watch being 100% correct, then the price should be expressed accordingly.

Many thanks Springer, appreciate your advice, really hard to find an example as you precisely describe . And yes, if not 100% correct, price should be significant less. Kind regards

[dcorn]

Sold my 1680 last year for $10k on Chrono24. I had it on the market for a few months at higher prices and got zero hits. Best offer I got from any grey market dealer was like $8500, apparently it wasn't patina'd enough for them.

Stats: It was a 3.8M serial, perfect MK1 white dial with very little patina on the dial or hands, zero rust or pitting on the hands. Likely the original bezel, or at least period correct, in great condition but missing the pip. The case was pretty beat up when I first got it, but it was polished and the crystal replaced. I had purchased a brand new bracelet and endlinks for it straight from Rolex. Came with Rolex service papers from 1989 along with a jeweler receipt for the service.

Good luck!

[Dan S]

I saw a decent example sell at auction recently with inner box and papers for just under $10k. It appeared to be original with nice clean dial and hands. The case showed some polishing but with prominent chamfers. Of course, people who are willing to buy at auction are not the same people who want to buy from dealers, totally different risk proposition.