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Old 18 February 2024, 01:03 AM   #1
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5811G or 5740G

Hi all,
I have been offered either a 5811G or 5740G from my AD.
I currently have a 5712/1A as my only Nautilus.

5811 Pros:
41mm (instead of 40mm for my 5712)
No complications (therefore different from my 5712)

5811 Cons:

5740 Pros:
Complications (Note I already have a perpetual calendar PP dress watch)
I also understand that the 5740 is the thinnest PC in Patek lineup which is special

5740 Cons:
Same size as my 5712 (it might be nice to have the 41mm)


My current PP lineup is as follows:
5204R-011
5370P-011
5968A-001
5712/1A-001

Any advice would be appreciated!


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Old 18 February 2024, 01:43 AM   #2
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Based on your collection which contains complications, I'd go with the 5811
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Old 18 February 2024, 01:47 AM   #3
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The answer is both.
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Old 18 February 2024, 02:03 AM   #4
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What a nice problem to have !! Congrats are in order!!
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Old 18 February 2024, 02:40 AM   #5
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That is a wonderful dilemma to have- congratulations!!!!! I have the 5740- though I love the 5740 and it is great- I wish I had the more simple looking less busy dial of the 5811 I think. Don’t think you can go wrong as I think they are both great! You will love the warmth of the white gold on whichever you choose- keep us posted on what you decide :-)
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Old 18 February 2024, 02:43 AM   #6
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I would go with the 5811 if you can only get one. It is the best movement to me for a sports watch and has a sweep seconds hand.
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Old 18 February 2024, 04:49 AM   #7
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The answer is both.
This is the correct answer
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Old 18 February 2024, 05:01 AM   #8
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Old 18 February 2024, 06:24 AM   #9
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You have a very interesting collection right now, huge congratz.

Regarding your question, I would have first suggested to get the 5740G instead of the 5712 (thinness) but the steel vs gold also has its advantage for usual everyday activities.

I like the idea of having a "simpler" Nautilus, especially with such blue dial. However, the 5740G is more interesting to me (QP, thinness for complication).

With a 5712/1A already, I think I would enjoy a 5740G more and "might" feel the 5811G's blue dial might not be fulfilling enough on the long run (to me).
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Old 18 February 2024, 06:24 AM   #10
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The answer is both.

Thanks for posting the photo! It is helpful to see them side by side … alas I can’t get both! I need to choose:-)


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Old 18 February 2024, 06:30 AM   #11
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I would go with the 5811 if you can only get one. It is the best movement to me for a sports watch and has a sweep seconds hand.

Good point about the movement…. I believe both the 5740 and 5712 both have the 240 movement as a base…. Therefore the 5811 would get another “pro” check mark!


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Old 18 February 2024, 06:42 AM   #12
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Here is a photo of my current PP lineup…. I figured a photo alongside Ichiran’s might help… thanks for the feedback so far everyone!




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Old 18 February 2024, 06:45 AM   #13
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I'd go 5740 w/o any doubt.

The main reason is that I have not warmed up to 5811/1G. The upsizing is a con from my perspective, I don't like the execution of the date (frame and font), and I prefer the stealthy dial color of 5711/12. Also prefer steel over WG for a simple sports watch.

Another consideration is that they'll probably make 5811 for another decade including in steel whereas I doubt 5740 will be made many more years. The 240 movement may well be on its way out after four decades of production and with the introduction of a new micro rotor movement some time ago.
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Old 18 February 2024, 07:43 AM   #14
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Old 18 February 2024, 08:28 AM   #15
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I would normally opt for the 5740, but seeing your collection has changed my mind. I think a 5811 would be a better compliment to your collection.
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Old 18 February 2024, 08:33 AM   #16
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5811. It would be nice to have something a little more simple with your collection I think!
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Old 18 February 2024, 08:36 AM   #17
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You can go with either and still end up with a winner! There’s no wrong decision in this head to head
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Old 18 February 2024, 08:57 AM   #18
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I'd go 5740, more special more expensive
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Old 18 February 2024, 10:06 AM   #19
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I would normally opt for the 5740, but seeing your collection has changed my mind. I think a 5811 would be a better compliment to your collection.
Ditto
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Old 18 February 2024, 10:21 AM   #20
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This is easy: Get the 5740 and trade your 5712 for a 5711 (blue or white or green) or 3700.
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Old 18 February 2024, 10:26 AM   #21
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This is easy: Get the 5740 and trade your 5712 for a 5711 (blue or white or green) or 3700.

Lol you guys are good! This is next level thinking!!


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Old 18 February 2024, 10:55 AM   #22
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Really love the 5740 but I need the 120m WR.
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Old 18 February 2024, 10:56 AM   #23
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Old 18 February 2024, 10:59 AM   #24
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Would you be willing to let go of the 12 to get the 40?
I think you gotta get the 40 while you can. A 5811 will always be easier to pick up down the road if you decide you still want to. Can’t pass on the 40. It’s the big dog.
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Old 18 February 2024, 11:02 AM   #25
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Really love the 5740 but I need the 120m WR.

120m WR…. Another “Pro” for the 5811… great point to mention Subtona! Thanks again everyone for the insights!!


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Old 18 February 2024, 11:03 AM   #26
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5811G or 5740G

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Would you be willing to let go of the 12 to get the 40?
I think you gotta get the 40 while you can. A 5811 will always be easier to pick up down the road if you decide you still want to. Can’t pass on the 40. It’s the big dog.
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I concur that the 5811 will likely be the easier pickup in the future… tough to pass on the 5740!


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Old 18 February 2024, 11:06 AM   #27
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Don’t screw this up. Grab the 5740. Select each new watch based on its own merits never mind how it “fits” into the collection. That’s just talking yourself out of the better piece for silly reasons.
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Old 18 February 2024, 12:15 PM   #28
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Don’t screw this up. Grab the 5740. Select each new watch based on its own merits never mind how it “fits” into the collection. That’s just talking yourself out of the better piece for silly reasons.

Words of wisdom here!


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Old 18 February 2024, 01:38 PM   #29
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5740 for sure. insane collection
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Old 18 February 2024, 04:29 PM   #30
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5811 for me, prefer its pure beauty and you already have a perpetual calendar.

Curious, have you been offered these 2 thanks to your purchase history of 4 watches total or could you have obtained them earlier with let's say with just the 5270 or 5204?
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